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Great day of Euro footy too that's pretty much over now. Anyone call to get an update on timing? I doubt anything they'll say over the phone is reliable, but any updated guidance would be nice.
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kwangusbeef | 49 |
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Quote Originally Posted by BlaiseElias: I the few days before BetED got shut down they were running that 100% bonus, but you could only deposit it by Credit Card or Western Union.. and not the ACH instant deposit method like before. AND if you deposited by CC you had to wait 30 before requesting a payout. I thought that was a little fishy. When I called to inquire about that, I got what I thought was a pretty weird response. They said there ACH banking service was temporily down, but were 'working on it'. So I asked about the 30 day waiting period, never got a credible response. I think the only thing they were working on was clearing there offices out. They've always had a 30 day waiting period for initial credit card deposits... since before I joined the book more than 3 years ago. The only sketchy aspect of this is that they blocked ACH transfers. But it looks like they had a good reason to limit interaction with their processors... just did it too late. |
SnotBoogy | 73 |
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What everyone is failing to recognize is this 100% Deposit bonus isn't new. So the central pillar of most of your "scam" theories doesn't hold up whatsoever.
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SnotBoogy | 73 |
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Quote Originally Posted by mrquija27: I'm agreeing with you that the player will not get in trouble. But obviously its illegal in some way. That way is overseas/beted, this is the illegal part (taking bets). We all including myself gave beted money (obviously an illegal operation). Therefore I think 100% knew of some risk going in maybe im wrong. I think all of us knew we were risking our money in some way by depositing for many reasons. Not ever thinking we would go to jail or get caught up but I think everyone in the back of their head thought something could happen and I may never see this money again. We all knew it was illegal in a certain way and we were risking our money. This as well. However, individual players can still be fined. And individual players can also be jailed for tax evasion (but that's another story). |
mrquija27 | 52 |
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Pretty sure online gambling is gambling and placing a wager is placing a wager. At least in North Carolina, Georgia, and several other states I've lived in in the Southeast.
I will admit that until tonight, I did not realize there was no overarching federal statute that banned online gambling, but there are definitely states that have very standard laws that ban it. And state law is just as real as federal law, just obviously not as universally applicable. |
mrquija27 | 52 |
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Quote Originally Posted by schmidt425: nope i'm telling you online gambling is %100 legal to do. There are a few states that have certain laws against it, mostly weird laws on how much or how or stuff like that. But for the most part online gambling is completely legal. If you would like I can send you a few thousand articles explaining this for you. Articles? Try reading the actual statutes: For example, in Florida: 849.08 Gambling.-- Whoever plays or engages in any game at cards, keno, roulette, faro or other game of chance, at any place, by any device whatever, for money or other thing of value, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. And there are quite a few others... |
mrquija27 | 52 |
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BetED has been offering a 100% Deposit bonus for more then three years. Sorry for all you guys that signed up recently because of it, but it's not some scheme. Some of us have stuck with the book through website and bet grading troubles, and are very frustrated. But no book would make it that convenient to withdraw money if they were trying to fuck customers over.
That being said, sportsbooks are sportsbooks. They're all just big schemes to some extent... |
SnotBoogy | 73 |
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Hmm, well you guys are mostly wrong. The UIGEA in 2006 established that banks and credit cards can't process funds to gambling sites, but quite a few states have laws that make all gambling illegal... including but not limited to Sportsbetting and Poker. I don't know the exact wording of the laws, so I'm sure there are loopholes to exploit, but states could prosecute individuals for online gambling (also, for tax evasion when they can explicitly trace funds).
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mrquija27 | 52 |
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Quote Originally Posted by dwest718: With the way the legal system actually works in the US and the severity of the penalties they face, they won't do anything until the DOJ makes them do something to "protect" the consumer. The funny thing is, the consumer (US citizens) wouldn't have an issue at all if they actually legalized and regulated the industry... irony at its best. |
SnotBoogy | 43 |
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Quote Originally Posted by SnotBoogy: Do you really think not contacting clients for 24 hours is acceptable? Not putting up a new phone message? or do you really believe that they simply cannot do this with all the heat on them? With the way the legal system actually works in the US and the severity of the penalties they face, they won't do anything until the DOJ makes them do something to "protect" the consumer. |
SnotBoogy | 43 |
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Quote Originally Posted by metdude3128: I have a beted poker account, which is in a separate client similar to a regular poker room. You can play poker normally, however you cannot withdraw or deposit funds since it would normally redirect you to the normal beted account window. So this confirms that BetED still exists as an entity, and that whatever money is dedicated to poker still exists... How about the Casino? I'd be checking all this and posting information but I'm at work for another 5 or 6 hours so no-go there. |
SnotBoogy | 43 |
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And they seized assets at Pokerstars and Fulltilt but people are still getting their money... just give it a couple days for the dust to completely settle. This will get resolved somehow.
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SnotBoogy | 43 |
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Those sites just had separate software that allowed you to log on without going through a website. That's definitely not the case here. Has anyone tried to access their BetED poker account?
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SnotBoogy | 43 |
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Quote Originally Posted by SnotBoogy: so what, even full tilt and poker stars had a bit of a disclaimer when you tried to log in, saying sorry we no longer accept US action crickets isn't any stronger a defense Right, only after the PPA through a fit (rightfully so). 75,000 people breathing down your neck will make you let them take their money off a website pretty quickly. No PPA for sportsbetting though... so who's going to make the DOJ get off their asses and open these sites back up so people can take their money off? Do you guys not remember Pokerstars and Fulltilt were shut down at least this long? |
SnotBoogy | 43 |
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It's like you guys don't understand how a lawsuit works... Remember that old line "Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law"? Yeah... that applies here.
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SnotBoogy | 43 |
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Quote Originally Posted by LawsonJames: Best player on Cubs (tho if Colvin gets pt he will be a star and Castro has potential) Liked the celebration at the end by Byrd, Young and Bourne shows that these guys are having fun out there and is a good example for all the kids watching this game. The funny thing is only one of these guys contributed anything at all to the game. Young and Bourne were both embarrassing at the plate. |
Stuckey | 22 |
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Ummm... it was a clear single. There is really no question there. The outfielder couldn't make a play on the ball. Can't believe you got screwed out of that.
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DanTos8715 | 27 |
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Wheels1 | 73 |
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Uhhhh... F***ing laser from RF. That was almost sicker than Ankiel's throw to third a couple years back. Jesus.
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Here we go.
5-3 AL anyone? I have NL ML, NL +1.5, and O8.5... so the AL hitting a walkoff to win by 2 runs would crush my soul. |
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