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Anybody know of any research, or have a well-founded opinion, on the effect of back to backs on game pace? It seems like teams playing back-to-back are more sluggish so the pace slows down.
When both teams in a game are b2b, I'm wondering if that leads to really slow games, or if maybe if lazy defense sets in and the pace actually increases. Opinions, links, etc appreciated
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abragman | 1 |
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Anybody know of any research, or have a well-founded opinion, on the effect of back to backs on game pace? It seems like teams playing back-to-back are more sluggish so the pace slows down.
When both teams in a game are b2b, I'm wondering if that leads to really slow games, or if maybe if lazy defense sets in and the pace actually increases. Opinions, links, etc appreciated
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abragman | 1 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain: Completely agree with abragman. Mice has a great write up (whether you agree with it or not) and one d bag has to focus on a typo, and yes that's what it is, because he put "UCF" in the opening paragraph. Them for some odd reason (probably due to poor reading comprehension) the d bag rants about Florida's schedule when they weren't mentioned in this thread. Neither team is in the SEC, why are you bringing up an SEC schedule in this thread? Either offer insight in the game or STFU. Agreeing with me brings you a substantial amount of credibility in my book (obviously), but when your avatar is Marlo Stanfield you elevate yourself to a whole new level.
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WhiteMice | 102 |
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Quote Originally Posted by WhiteMice: BOWL RECAP Sides (1*)0-0-0 Totals 1-1-0 Sides (2*)2-1-0MoneyLine 0-0-0 BYU thank you, when you own a Team you own a Team Let's keep rolling BALL ST + 7 (1*) UCF playing here rather than in Memphis after O'Leary coached away the C-USA Championship Game to Tulsa. Guess he should probably have known the rules of punt coverage. Was outrushed by Tulsa in 2 losses by 280 yds, still had a chance to win each Game, and lost one by 2 and the Chmp. in OT. He controlled Missouri for a half, managed to mis-manage the clock late, and then abandoned his game plan 2nd half. O'Leary is 1-3 in Bowl Games at CFU, 3-5 overall Bowl record. I'm not about to lay a TD with him. I think he has the stronger "trenches", he has a decided TO advantage, but he'll find a way to let Ball St. hang around. BSU comes in on a 6 game win streak. Their 3 losses came against teams (Clemson, N Ill, and Kent) with combined record of 33-5. They were 3-3 and 4-2 ats vs Bowl'ers. They scored 23 or more pts in every game, and 10 times scored 30 or more. And before everyone comes in and starts rapping the MAC, remind yourself that they were 4-1 SU in Bowls last year. Ball St. can run the ball, they can throw the ball. And unlike O'Leary, when they hit the RedZone, they'll go for the 7 instead of playing for 3. Ball St is 0-8 in Bowl Games, comes in with a chip on their shoulder, and shouldn't be short of motivation. And will score some points. UCF playing near home instead of going to Memphis. Or maybe even Miami? How motivated can George motivate? GL with that. GL everyone. I'll start by saying I don't like trend stats, especially in college football where player turnover is so constant, and I don't believe in betting against coaches. But in defense of @WhiteMice, this is about as good as pre-game writeups get on this site. I'm not nominating it for any awards or anything, but at least there is some factual information in here unlike most posts on this forum. Interesting facts about getting torched on the ground twice against Tulsa. Most of the garbage on this forum is (stupid) people's opinions, and all they say is BALL STATE +7!!! in size 30 font with some fruity smiley face and no logical explanation. And then people post fruity smiley faces back expressing their agreement/disagreement. If everyone made posts like this one I would read this forum a lot more. And SEC guy--nobody cares about the SEC, you only get one team to root for you can't fall back on how hard your schedule was. You LOST, get over it.
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WhiteMice | 102 |
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Quote Originally Posted by leroyfrodus: Yes and Oklahoma was 77-3 at home under Stoops. Until Snyder won last week..Georgia has never lost three straight vs SC until now..I'll keep going but trends mean nothing. Trends are for people that don't want to actually do research. I love how nobody doubts the fascinating trends they get from Sportsbook or some other site that stays in business by taking their $.
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theSEC | 26 |
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Why am I starting a thread about PSU during their bye week? Because they are a covering machine, and I don't understand how they are still undervalued among the betting public. I don't consider -3 against a Northwestern team with no quality wins to be that much respect. Among fans I get it--sanctions, lost a couple star players, etc.
I just can't believe people aren't seeing what Bill O'Brien has done with this team in such a short time. Defensively we knew they would be fine, they always are, and the big 10 isn't going to test your D much anyways. But look at Matt McGloin's progress from this year to last: 2011 (12 games): 54.1% completions, 1571yds, 8 TD 5 Int 2012 (6 games): 61.5%, 1499yds, 12 TD 2 Int (and I watched one of the Ints litearlly bounce off the receivers hands) Is PSU going to be $$$ all year long, or are people finally catching on?
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abragman | 1 |
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red flag alert
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carlos1321 | 4 |
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phat03 | 17 |
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Quote Originally Posted by STLCards2914: I wouldn't say either defense is either good or decent...more so they are both really really bad You're entitled to your opinion.....we can agree that OUs D sucks because everything about OU sucks.....as far as the Horns, I will simply disagree with you and (hopefully) let tomorrow do the talking. We just played the #1 (OkSt, 7.6 yards/play) and #3 (WVU, 7.3 yards/play) teams in college football, in terms of offensive yards/play, granted we looked like shit against the run, but I am counting on our real D showing up this week. (I don't like using total yards metrics, that's what made Cam Newton look like a good player last year--a lot of garbage time TDs/yards).
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RazorSharps | 23 |
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Quote Originally Posted by TedHJLee: Please stop right there not say another word. Ur gonna jinx my bet. Jinx? Really?
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boldin | 9 |
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My previous post isn't justification for the under in itself, but I think that the total is higher than it should be in a game with 2 good/decent defenses.
I'm not going to sink to the level of saying "it's a rivalry game so both (offenses/defenses, whichever makes the point sound better) will be looking to make a statement, etc etc. But the game is historically a defensive one, even when one or both teams have high-powered offenses.
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RazorSharps | 23 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Money2BMade: Look forward to your Selections tomorrow bud. Cap that ou/tex game for me if u have time. BOL tonight im with ya. I like under in Texas/OU. I went to Texas and like +3.5 but not as much as the under. We're coming off of 2 shootouts against bad pass defenses, which were both pretty heavily watched games, so people think we are pass-happy when in reality we moved to a pro style offense a couple years ago and are much more of a running team (we only pass 42% of the time).
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RazorSharps | 23 |
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I am from Atlanta, GA you fool. I've watched so many bad years of Falcons football before our 5-0 start this year.
And using animated smiley faces is definitely more mature, my bad.....you should put up an OU symbol, you're definitely more of a Sooner....
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theSEC | 26 |
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Quote Originally Posted by austintx11: You say hook em, live in california and have an atlanta falcon avatar....yeah, I bet you're a true UT fan I grew up in Atlanta, went to Texas ('07) and now I live in California...that work for you? I would have made my avatar UT but I do a lot more NFL forum stuff on here so I went Falcons. What kind of respectable person uses smileys? Are you 14?
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theSEC | 26 |
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Agree with everything you said, but are you not a little less confident given Central Michigan's run D? (6.1 yds/rush against, #122/124 in CFB)
I don't know anything about Navy or their QBs, you would think the starter being out would matter even if they are 80% run....any insight on that? Thanks.
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RazorSharps | 23 |
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Quote Originally Posted by theSEC: Les Miles, LSU offensive rankings since 2005 with big wins from that year... 2005 78th with 366 Total YPG, 226 Passing YPG won @ #4 Bama 2006 18th with 404 Total YPG, 245 Passing YPG won @ #8 Tennessee and @ #5 Arkansas 2007 20th with 445 Total YPG, 229 Passing YPG (Best LSU offense ever) beat #9 Va Tech, #7 Florida, #1 tOSU 2008 60th with 371 Total YPG, 204 Passing YPG won @ #9 Auburn 2009 114th with 309 Total YPG, 180 Passing YPG won @ #14 UGA 2010 94th with 332 Total YPG, 155 Passing YPG beat #5 Bama 2011 65th with 375 Total YPG, 160 Passing YPG beat 8 Top 25 teams What do I take from this? Every year LSU displays an inability to move the ball through the air offensively, yet every year Les wins a game or two when his offense is clearly out matched. I do not believe South Carolina will be able to just run rampant on the LSU defense in Tiger Stadium. South Carolina will be operating with a silent count, and this will be a huge disadvantage for the offensive tackles especially on passing downs. Playing from behind the chains is never easy, especially at night in Death Valley. Passing is overrated. Les Miles is 47-0 when the Tigers rush for 100+ yards and hold their opponents to under 100 yards rushing. Final point, Les wins at night no matter where LSU plays, 57-5 in all night games. The man is not the best college coach, maybe not even top 5 but he wins, a lot. You don't have to bet on LSU, just don't bet against em. I will be in attendance for Les's 100th game as LSU coach and I anticipate a Victory for LSU. Sorry to get personal here, but it's people like you (who would name themselves theSEC on a forum) that ruin CFB. The SEC always has 1 or 2 true powerhouse teams, and most years they are the best conference, I'll give you that. But you SEC homers are such losers, I'm sorry, cheer for your TEAM not your CONFERENCE. Does it really matter if you lose 4 games in the SEC, Big 12 or Pac 12? No, nobody cares. If you don't win a national championship you are forgotten, unless you go to a BCS bowl in which case you're remembered for a week or 2, with the unique exception of Boise (v OU). Talk to me when one of your teams has its own network--not the conference, a TEAM. HOOK EM.
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theSEC | 26 |
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Quote Originally Posted by kahuna57: Wasn't it the second string QB (the one who's starting tonight) that got them the late comeback and W in the Air Force game? Thought it was but not sure. Yes but he did fumble on the goal line, luckily it was recovered by one of his players.
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PURPLECOOKIE | 37 |
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Excluding week 17s, the Packers haven't been a regular season underdog since week 10 of 2010.....barring any red flags I am very much looking forward to taking them this weekend.
I love when the best player(s) in the league (Rodgers, Matthews, Woodson) just looked like shit and the talking heads on ESPN are doubting them. Not to mention Houston just lost their defensive QB in Cushing, who is definitely their best defender and maybe even the best player on that team. I feel like GB could cover a pk, so I am happy to take the 3.5. Although last time I said that was Sunday night about the Chargers.....
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abragman | 1 |
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Buddy your friend is a D bag and this is the most poorly constructed system I've ever heard of in my life. Be sure to share your research when you construct a system that is able to factor the 4-1 Cardinals in as a "bad" team because their only quality win was New England.
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MpJanz | 13 |
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Yeah the 44 indicates a lot of running is expected, which would be a change for both teams.
Side note--is my avatar a Falcons logo or the stupid blank face? Please tell me, thanks.
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abragman | 13 |
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