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This place is such a garbage show right now. Everything was wrong tonight you couldn't trust any numbers in any sport. Why these changes were made when 5 of the main 6 things people bet on are going on (NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAAF, NCAAH) instead of over the summer when its just MLB for a solid month is so effin stupid its like nobody involved cares about sports its just graphic designers thinking the big logos at the top of the page look cool (they don't).
Having Tuesday's games mixed in with tonight's makes the whole thing a bigger mess. I'm patiently waiting for the historical data to be available and to separate by day without going game by game but I'm guessing that isn't going to happen. Total joke and I'm boycotting until things improve. Besides the consensus info, all the reasons why I use covers every day for I can easily get elsewhere so if the only thing separating you is totally fucked there is no reason to keep using this site.
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weeble5672 | 5 |
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I hit enter too quickly I'm obviously out of practice on the forum but I'm not at using this site. I play around on the consensus data all the time I am stubbornly addicted to mainly using covers for my stats tools. I can't in this format. I bet I'm up there in covers clicks over the last decade and you are going to lose me and tons of others who still lurk all the time because that consensus data is one of your major draws as you can tell from the backlash. People don't trust all the money figures coming from different books and quotes from Vegas books I like the one pick per man office pool type sample this site provides it is what sets you apart but that information is not useful presented in this manner. College football board is a complete disaster there is no way to separate out tonight's games? It is mind boggling to me that there are no opponents or times let alone games from different day on the same page that drop off once the game starts. That would be like nobody knowing where stock prices closed at 4:01. Please change back. History is a must too.
PS I have printed NFL consensus data from 2005 til a couple years ago I would love to have people help fill the holes. Im sure others have done the same in other sports I have a few random season here and there. Its something I would pay for I'm sure others would too.
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LV23Plower | 82 |
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I just logged in for the first time in years to voice displeasure with the terrible changes. This site is becoming unusable and I'm going elsewhere for my data and stats. Its been my homepage for 10 years every time I open any browser you are getting a visit to your page I'm changing it right now. Direct link to each sports consensus page are useless I can't access any consensus data besides what's on the scoreboard page and that's just sides. I click the consensus link from that page and nothing. I can't get the O/U info on the NFL game its just not working. This wasn't working last night as I tried to look at NBA games that already started since they get dropped from the board when the games start
Is it possible to get: Both teams listed with away on one side and home on the other? I used this page as my initial look at the board. No times no opponents and games from multiple days. I'm skimming the # of picks to see which games are today bc no time or opponent is listed. Teams on b2b road games will be on the list twice. Is the history just gone? I'm looking back all the time for comparison games I can't believe the only way to get consensus data from last Sunday's NFL is to click on the consensus from the scoreboard page for each individual game. I like going back to see what were the most unpopular home dogs of the year etc |
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Brady now 10-13-1 ATS career playoffs
2-9 last 11 8-13 since his first ring 5-10 since his last ring when he achieved 'can't be against him' status |
TheSituation559 | 31 |
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Quote Originally Posted by TheRickterScale: I don't know how this post got so out of hand. Just reading the title "Atlanta should have gone for 2 up 26-7" My opinion, no. Being up 3 possessions there's no need to make the hard decision to go for 2. Let's just say worse case scenario atlanta recovers a fumble and scores 2, you're now up 26-9, 2 TDs and FG. 27-7 makes it 3 TD's guaranteed. I don't know what you're not understanding here. The only inclination I have is ... I got nothing, the post doesn't make much sense. |
vanzack | 131 |
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I dont know how you deal with these people Van I would waste my day getting worked up over it
Nobody even called out the guy talking about what if the 2pt was returned the other way then ATL would lead 26-9 That might be dumber than people thinking that's actually you in your avatar
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vanzack | 131 |
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Amazing this thread is 8 pages back. Best trend in all of sports. What's up Crimes? Long time... |
BetCrimes1984 | 33 |
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Quote Originally Posted by LakeShowTime:
Thank you Lunchbox Mr. hindsight should be your real name.. why don't you post that info before the game? No problem LakeShow....its too bad you can't figure that stuff out on your own...a little research and situational handicapping can go a long way. You needed me to post to see the Yanks were a 70% consensus road fave for a road NL game off an extra inning win to sweep the team that knocked them out last year? I was posting a lot of great detailed writeups to start the year and was doing very well but as usual I stopped because it just wasn't worth the effort. I haven't had a post in any thread for over a month and I regret even getting involved today bc I've learned its just best to keep my thoughts to myself and not waste time in this forum....all the idiots on the Yanks today lured me in. But the last thing I was going to do was come out of the woodwork to post my biggest home dog play of the year when I haven't posted a pick in over a month. I had one of the best records in the forums through the first month but would hardly get any views or posts....why bother? Anyone who remembers who I am knows I'm a contrarian especially with unpopular home teams. My long writeups would go mostly unnoticed while stupid childish threads get thousands of views and tons of posts. This forum is nothing what it was like from 04-06. I'm also getting married next weekend so my priority today was dealing with that bullshit and not doing homework for others. I didn't post these either, but since you're a Lakers fan you would have never listened to me anyway
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Most popular wagerline road fave since Phils dropped 2 of 3 at ARZ...and that was hamels, lee and oswalt Most popular AL road fave since Boston got swept at CLE week 1...and that was Beckett and Lester. Yanks were off walkoff extra inning win to complete sweep of team that knocked them out last year....fly to CHI to play a no-DH NL game against a team that was home off a home game. Sucker bet of the year!!!! |
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RANGERS -106 (2.12/2.00) Texas is 62-35 at home since start of last year, 45-52 on the road, yet after being heavy consensus plays for their first ever division road trip as defending AL champs, are unpopular faves at home bc it is against the big bad Yankees. Nova yet to have a road quality start in his brief career, and was hit hard by Texas in NY in April. |
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BOSTON RED SOX -160 (2.40/1.50) Almost forgot them, home favorite off a home shutout. Would like it better if it wasn't Wakefield and going against the Twins who just provided the shutout trend with a loss against the White Sox. Wakefield solid in 2 Boston wins his last 2 starts vs Minny at home, Twins 0-3 in Scott Baker's starts at Fenway.
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NEW YORK METS -125 (2.50/2.00) Mets 5-1 last 6 as a home fave, most of those unpopular. Niese first start against the Dodgers, first home start since cashing as unpopular home fave vs ARZ and Galarraga. Dodgers 0-3 in Kuroda's start at the Mets, 8.31 ERA and 2.15 WHIP in those games. BALTIMORE ORIOLES -109 (2.18/2.00) Now that the O's are back under .500 and even money units wise people are off the bandwagon. Zach Britton has been awesome, Baltimore 5-1 in his starts (2.63 ERA, 1.19 WHIP), 3-0 at home (1.83/1.12) This is his first time facing a team for the second time which combined with Baltimore's opening series sweep at Tampa keeps me from making this more than a normal sized play. Shields has been great, but he's also off 26 innings in 3 dominant starts, some regression has to be coming. He has a 4.94 career road ERA, 4.82/4.62/5.82 from 2008-2010, the 3 years Tampa has been good. His career numbers at Camden Yards are solid, 3.71 ERA/1.20 WHIP. 8.69 ERA/1.69 WHIP/.333 BA against in 2 starts there last year. PITTSBURGH PIRATES -106 (2.12/2.00) Two of the biggest home/away split guys going against each other. Not the first time I have talked about backing Paul Maholm at home and going against Wandy Rodriguez on the road. |
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73-51-2 +25.11 CHICAGO CUBS -128 (3.20/2.50) |
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D-Backs!! 4-1 +4.585 on the day I was 69-50-2 +20.525 going into the day (not 20.55) 73-51-2 +25.11 Average consensus on the Rangers for their 2-5 road trip was 65% at wagerline. For a team that was sub .500 on the road last year, first division road trip as division champs, yet all everyone was saying was take Texas in that late thread...why? Because they went to the world series last year? Vargas is better at home more often than not, Texas loses more often than not on the road and in Lewis' road starts. |
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SEATTLE +103
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Thx guys!! Appreciate it Consilience Tigers and Mets A's ARIZONA D-BACKS -108 (2.70/2.50) |
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67-47-2 +24.89 going into yesterday 2-3 -4.34 yesterday, 2-2 +.06 after the CHW loss 69-50-2 +20.55 overall Tigers, Mets, A's pending |
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OAKLAND A's -173 (3.46/2.00) Oakland and Cahill snapped Cleveland's 8 game winning streak last night and now Anderson is a big favorite at home against the 20-9 Indians. CLE still just 7-7 on the road, and besides going WLW in a series at KC every one of their losses this season is attached to another one. A's 14 games over .500 at home since beginning of 2010, Cleveland 19 games under on the road.
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Running out of time...will update record after these games start DETROIT TIGERS -101 (2.02/2.00) I know I've talked about Rick Porcello regressing since his solid 2009, but most of that was for on the road. He is still better at home in his 2+ years in the majors, and the Tigers are a lot better in his home starts. Rick Porcello at home:
Porcello on the road
It's only Porcello's second home start of the year, his first start 5 ip, 5 er in a loss to KC. That was Porcello's third time facing KC in Detroit in his last 5 home starts dating back to last year, and 4th overall since 8/24 last year. 4 quality starts in last 5 coming into this year and the miss was the 2nd home start vs KC. Porcello against the Yanks:
First start for AJ Burnett at Detroit with the Yankees. In 3 starts at Comerica with Toronto: 9.42 ERA, 1.74 WHIP, Blue Jays were 2-1 scoring 23 runs behind him in those 3 starts. Only Burnett's 2nd road start...the following is mostly copied with updates from my play against him in his first, when Tornoto came back off Mariano late: Burnett also worse on the road overall in his career and especially in his 2 years with the Yankees. It's his second road start of the season after posting a 5.76 ERA in 19 road starts last year. Yanks now 7-13 in his road starts since beginning of last year which is awful for a team that goes to the playoffs almost every year. Yanks are 16-21 in his road starts since they signed him (5.14 ERA, 1.52 WHIP), 16-23 including postseason (5.44 ERA, 1.55 WHIP) All this plus A-Rod and Jeter out of the lineup starts to make Detroit look too easy to the against the grain guys. Yanks off shutout, beware of backups getting a chance, Porcello isn't Verlander or Scherzer is why I'm not going bigger. NEW YORK METS -107 (2.14/2.00) Mets now favored so they are home favorite off a home shutout. Copied from my play on Pelfrey his last home start, unpopular fave chance win vs Arizona: Mike Pelfrey isn't great, or even good, but he is good at times at home, especially last year when he had a 2.83 home ERA in 19 starts, Mets were 13-6, 8-1 before July 1st, 14 quality starts. Mets 34-22 since 2008, his first full season in the rotation. Career home ERA 3.62 about 2 runs better than his road ERA. After his last ARZ start he now has a 3.22 career Citi Field ERA. Mets 3-0 in his home starts vs the Giants, Pelfrey 2.08 ERA, 0.79 WHIP. Giants starter Jonathan Sanchez has been better on the road last year and to start this year than he was in his first few years with the Giants. Giants are still 0-3 in his 3 starts at the Mets, Sanchez 4.50 ERA, including a May 2010 loss against Pelfrey. |
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OAKLAND -136 SEATTLE -116 |
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