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Quote Originally Posted by jdawgqn86: Yes I am absolutely saying that both their B1G wins have been flukes. So then if they win against Indiana, then that's going to be a fluke as well?
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Quote Originally Posted by jdawgqn86: The Gophers' wins have been against four non-conference scrubs and their two B1G wins have been very fluky. Played an emotionally worn down and injury riddled Northwestern team and still barely pulled that one out. They beat Nebraska because Taylor Martinez is Taylor Martinez. In their two losses to Iowa and Michigan, it's been shown that if you can stop the run against them they simply do not have the ability to throw the ball. If they need to rely on their passing game they will be lucky to score double digits. Indiana, on the other hand, have been play offensive weapons and have the ability to keep it close with anyone. Their defense may be a big sieve but they've been in every loss they've had, including B2B road losses at Michigan State and Michigan. That +10 is still a big number, especially if the Gophers can establish the ground game and control the clock. I think it's so high because in all likelihood MN simply will not be able to keep pace with IND and will have to start throwing which will lead to unmitigated disaster. So what your saying is, is that any win this team has over a good team is a fluke and you will find a reason to discount it, like your logic or Taylor Martinez being Taylor Martinez.
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Quote Originally Posted by Pasteur: I disagree with this line of thinking with every fiber of my being. It's us against them, believe that. You do what works for you, I'll do what works for me. Best of luck and thanks for sharing LOL, You can disagree with Hawkeze as much as you want, even with every fiber of your being (LMFAO). The fact is he's right and your wrong. That's why the lines move, because they want bettors betting both ways. If the line is at -3 and a majority of the money is going for the favorite to cover the -3 then they will keep pushing the line until the money starts going the other way. The only time Vegas loses is when the money keeps going to the other side no matter how much they push the line. Your way of thinking is completely wrong. There are numerous reasons on why Kansas is a -12: a. They are at home b. All five of Kansas wins are by a spread of 13, 14, 37, 14, 19 c. Kansas only loss came against a good Michigan State team. d. Oregon State is with out Angus Brandt. e. Oregon State is not considered an elite team and they may be 4-1, but have not played anyone yet except Alabama (Which they lost) who is also not considered to be elite as well. f. When you average 71 points and 55 points given up, your going to get some high spreads even if the other team has a good record. g. They are numerous more reasons you could set Kansas at 12 and the list could go on and on. If bettors, like yourself, place enough money on Oregon State, guess what, then Vegas will start moving the line until the money does start going to Kansas. Unfortunatley, the money right now is going to both ways so thats why you aren't seeing much movement in the line. Vegas sports books could care less about the outcome of the game. They want to make sure they are covered on both sides so one side doesn't kill them. Vegas could care less about manipulating you and don't care how much money you win as long as someone is covering you on the other side. The only thing Vegas hates is losing money!!!!!! |
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Quote Originally Posted by tillyo: dimwhit that hurt my head. PM smiddyo and his team of lawyers you guys should be best friends. LMAO, you called him dimwhit, that was great. |
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Dude the guy has been proven wrong on everything. The only thing he is doing now is making shit up. Trust me the dude sits in his underwear all day at his computer, eats cheetos, and jerks it to porn or to the movie loose change.
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Is this post still going on. Doesn't everyone see that this guy smdio is a liar. None of his so called evidence is even his. He has put none his own time (unless you count watching a video called loose change and going to conspiracy theorist sites) and he has spent none of his own money (except on all the cheetos he eats while hes jerking off to the loose change video). This guy is a liar like most conspiracy theorists and he only looks at evidence that supports his point of view and then tries to make up other shit. Maybe we need to go ahead and get covers to pull this thread down.
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Quote Originally Posted by smdio: You need to respect my fathers death instead of being ignorant and offensive towards him and the rest of my family. The guy worked 60+ hours a week and ended up jumping close to 100 stories from a high rise building. And all you want to know is his name? You're a jackass and if you continue to harass me about my father, you'll soon be joining your friend sedale LOL, this guy is just unbelievable, now you can't stop making shit up. Maybe we need to report you. |
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Quote Originally Posted by smdio: Come to think of it Hutch, I just read back and have answered every single one of your questions thus far. I also counted how many you've answered of mine, using logic. And you've done that less than half of the time (11 out of 27). Just some more reason why I've conceded to "agree to disagree" with you Answer his fucking question smdio. How did the wreckage of the plane get there. We all want to hear the stupid ass shit you come up with on how the wreckage got at the crash site. Entertain us with your about the fictional world you live in. |
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Quote Originally Posted by smdio: Another Reilly/tpjw alias Disgustingly obvious, I might add This guy is such a joke its unbelievable. What did you go away for the past for the few days so the heat on you would die down and you can spit some more of your rhetoric with out anyone else shooting it down. The only thing that is disgustingly obvious is this little fantasy world you live in. |
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smdio, this is no longer your post, actual common sense thinking people have taken over your post. Go back to eating your cheetos and looking at porn.
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Once again you're full of sh*t. My comments are below your comments in bigger letters. Get real smdio.
3. 3000 people died ** Can't argue with ya there either, GREAT WORK. ** ****You should be arguing with me in this one. 3,000 people didn't die for you, 2 of the planes didn't crash that day in your theory.****
** You don't care what I say? Then why are you debating? You're simply afraid of the truth, just like most others. I showed you a report from NIST that agrees to Free Fall speed. Did they "discredit themselves" too? ** **** NIST didn't admit to anything. Post where they said that the building fell at free fall speed. Not some stupid David Chandler Theory on there calculations proved the free fall theory with out them admitting to it. Please Post there actual admission of Free Fall. I would like to see the words FREE FALL in it.****
** And you believe them? I don't. If I told you I was 9'11'', would you believe me? No, you'd want proof, right? Is a list of bodies on a sheet of paper enough proof for you? Because -that- is what the government released to satisfy the "identifying" of bodies on 9/11 ** ****Again pure speculation. This is called "I don't trust the government and I have no actual proof so I'm just going to say that the government controlled it*****
** You're just naive. Plain and simple. ** **** Good answer when you have nothing else to say. You should of went with your "government planted that there" theme, it works good for an overall answer when you can't say anything else. It's a good way out.**** 7.
David Chandler is a High School physics teacher and was wrong in his
analysis. Remember this guy is no Professor and he is no respected
physicist. They quote this guy because he is the only one supporting
there view and his video is deceptive enough to make their version of
what happened sound good. Here is a video debunking this high school
teacher. I'll let the video speak for itself. ** Oh, Let's use Pseudoscience to disprove a logical claim by Chandler! Using Pseucoscience, I can actually claim that Mars will be colliding with Earth in the next 7 days. Would you believe me? Anything debunking Chandler is ridiculous. The only video's I've ever seen trying to do so are using false calculations and input to try and DEBUNK his claims, NOT to prove the truth. If you cared enough to open your eyes, you would see that. But your comfortable living in your world of lies. Fine with me. ** ****Let me see here David Chandler uses a video to do his calculations, and starts his calculations at point after the building already started to fall, yeah thats some good scientific facts right there. **** |
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Boy, this f*ckhead really is trying to reach for sh*t now. He is still standing by his claim that he talked to some mother about a fake phone call. Show us the proof or shut the f*ck up about it.
How this since your words are the proof, then here, I talked to Al Quada on the phone and they said the U.S. government had nothing to do with it. They told me to tell ignorant f*cks like you to stop being so damn idiotic. By the way, dumb-f*ck, I wasn't the one commenting on your stupid f*cking gold theory. I know its hard to decipher since so many of us are coming at you because your such a dumbf*ck. How does it feel to be drowning in your stupid f*cking theories and know your trying to reach for anything so you can get your head above water but just can't get there.(My bad not your theories, the theories of Loose Change and David Chandler) |
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I'm telling you these guys are disgusting human beings. Its funny how these guys like to make shit up no matter who it is hurting, but then when you ask them to reveal there sources (Mother who got fake call on cell phone) they claim they are protecting them. Smdio is a f*cking liar and a piece of sh*t.
When there isn't any evidence they make shit up, when there is evidence they say it was planted made to look that way by the government. Remember you can't disprove something that is made up since the shit didn't happen in the first place. You know whats not made up: 1. Two planes flying into the world trade centers 2. One plane flying into the pentagon 3. 3000 people died 4. The buildings didn't fall at free fall speed (I don't care what the fuck you say smdio, you have already discredited yourself.) 5. Remains of the deceased were found and identified from both the Pentagon and Flight 93 in Pennsylvania. 6. Parts from both Flight 93 and Flight 77 were found at the scene and can be clearly seen in pictures from the pentagon and Flight 93 crash site. 7. David Chandler is a High School physics teacher and was wrong in his analysis. Remember this guy is no Professor and he is no respected physicist. They quote this guy because he is the only one supporting there view and his video is deceptive enough to make their version of what happened sound good. Here is a video debunking this high school teacher. I'll let the video speak for itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rhY9c_iemA smdio and his buddy David Chandler like to show you a video well after the collapse actually started to occur. The building itself went down well after the events of 9/11 took place and was barely noticed by anyone until conspiracy theorists brought it up. No one died in it and there was absolutely no reason to bring it down. 8. It was and is possible to make cell phone calls from airplanes using cell phones. This has been proven by industry experts and they are even trying to make it allowed on airplanes now. We have given you the proof of this, deny it if you want. 9. That most calls were made from Air Phones Here is what is made up or purely speculation: 1. That the towers fell at free fall speed. 2. That a missile hit the pentagon 3. That the plane that hit the WTC shot a missile off 4. That our buddy smdio talked to someones mother who got a fake cell call(show us the evidence) 5.That the World Trade Centers were brought down in a controlled demolition. 6. smdio scifi fantasy story of what happened to the passengers of Flight 93 7. That trading and put options and purchasing of insurance was because insiders had knowledge the attack was going to happen. 8. That smdio spent $100,000 on investigating this stuff when all he has done is repeating whats on the movie Loose Change and a couple videos from his good friend David Chandler. |
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Hutch, TPJW,
Your not going to get him to admit that he is wrong. He will try and contradict everything you say, even if it means making something up (Hence the story about talking to some mother that got a fake cell phone call). I believe we have done our part to disprove this guy on the Free Fall and on the Cell phones. As for WTC7, there are only a few videos of what happened to that, so going off any video of WTC7 is just speculation. The video I posted clearly shows how long it took for WTC1 and WTC2 to fall, no matter what he tries to come up with. He is full of lie's, just like the guy in the Loose Change video, he makes stuff up. |
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Oh wait a minute this isn't your claim, you got it from the movie loose change. What did you watch that movie before you posted this and decide everything in it must be true. I know you didn't research anything because you can't post any of your own research. What did the government have you sign a confidentiality agreement as well.
The real truth 9 seconds what a Jack Ass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4 |
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It must feel good smdio, that Rosie O' Donnell supports your claim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4 |
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Come on smdio, what do you have to say about the freefall video I posted. This was one of your smoking guns. Come on I want to hear what kind of crap you come up with to disprove it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4 |
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Quote Originally Posted by smdio: The problem herein lies with your research. I don't know where you got that "list" from, but it's very inaccurate. I have a list somewhere that shows exactly 13 cell phone calls and the first 2-3 sentences of each call between the victims and their family. I believe this is something that I got directly from the "Right to Know" commission, which you can easily get as well And no, I will absolutely not give you a name or even a hint, out of respect for the women that I've become very close with, and per her request. Also, how low of a human being would I have to be in order to make up such a story? I've had people tell me in this thread that my father didn't die, and now this? You guys call me a terrible person for believing these conspiracy theories, but the accusations that you're throwing toward me are far more disturbing than any conspiracy theory that I've ever come accross So much so, that I'm going to stop reading this thread now, I think. One too many "you're dad is not dead" references for me. I didn't come here for you assholes to attack my dead father, I came here to debate You're full of sh*t smdio, thats why you won't be back. You know there are people on here disproving all your made up stories and you have nothing more to say. |
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Here is another video on all the wreckage found at Flight 93 crash site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkivdEGph9
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Quote Originally Posted by tpjw44: SOMEONE IS A LIAR. Care to explain Smidio? I would ask that after you say I'm lying you provide proof that a MALE on FLIGHT 93 called his MOTHER using a CELLPHONE. Proof that is something other than your own words friend. Are you going to tell us you don't want to give out her name? Problem is there was only ONE male passenger who called his mother. Uh oh. I'm pretty sure his Dad didn't die either. I could be wrong, but for the way he disrespects all the dead in the WTC and the planes, I really don't care.
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