Creditwagering FRAUDS

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Saintsin10 PM Saintsin10
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Posted: 9/19/2010 8:44:42 AM

Stay away from these frauds.  They have owed me money since March and made no attempt to pay.  They owe many people thousands of dollars and are not being responsive to requests.  DO NOT PLAY here or send these frauds any money.

They operate from the United States.

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Posted: 9/19/2010 4:45:10 PM
Why haven't the feds busted them yet if they are really operating in the US? This should've been a 'slam-dunk" bust, right?
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Posted: 9/20/2010 12:18:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Greens_Rams:

Why haven't the feds busted them yet if they are really operating in the US? This should've been a 'slam-dunk" bust, right?

Yeah... You would think so, huh.

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Posted: 9/20/2010 9:49:07 AM
[Quote: Originally Posted by Skubishack]

Yeah... You would think so, hu

 

These frauds are done!  No reason for a bust, no one plays there anymore...at all!  The owner is a little punk.

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Posted: 9/20/2010 11:57:38 AM

Funniest part is most of the Stiffs on the list are total BS.  They have a bunch of stolen IDs with random email addresses....the pictures do not match the names.

TOTAL SCAM OPERATION.    Attempt at a Pyramid scheme....they also have a few shills that post on SBR pretending that they actually collect from people.

 

WHAT kind of company wont give a phone number or address????  SCAM.....

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Posted: 9/20/2010 12:12:40 PM

That is really shady stuff, with fake id's with false names.

People that ever looked at that and saw their picture have to be going nuts!

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Posted: 9/20/2010 12:28:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jw1256:

That is really shady stuff, with fake id's with false names.

People that ever looked at that and saw their picture have to be going nuts!

Very Sad But TRUE is that over 30 people listed on the site are people that are dead........as I said, the names do not match the pictures but the names they used are mostly of people not around anymore. Bernie Madoff type scam but they are done.....they haven't paid anyone in over 3 months and NO ONE is sending them a dime anymore.

 

RIP Creditwagering.........

MrHenderson PM MrHenderson
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Posted: 9/20/2010 10:28:28 PM
is creditwagering the same site as .betwestcoast 
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Posted: 9/20/2010 11:22:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MrHenderson:

is creditwagering the same site as .betwestcoast 

 

YES- exactly the same

MrHenderson PM MrHenderson
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Posted: 9/21/2010 12:52:20 AM
saintsssin10---- how can you verify that? did yyou play through creditwagering and the site is betwestcoast or what?
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Posted: 9/23/2010 3:58:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Late Info Specials:

SAINTSIN 10 who the hell are you? have you ever had an account with BOSTON NORTH INC. if so you MUST OWE MONEY!! this company BOSTON NORTH INC has dealt with folks for years now and until this year with the misidentification of CREDITWAGERING have NEVER had any problems. How do i know simiple, I am a owner and if someone has been screwed please contact us nd let us explain all the garbage that is being spammed about is total bullshit and lies. Call Kevin and let him get this garbage out on the table once and for all!!

If you ARE the owner, which should be considered a responsible position, don't you think you should post a link to a page somewhere that explains all this rather than blow up in a forum using unprofessional language?

If it were my company, I would definitely put together a link to put this issue to bed once and for all. I'd even make sure that link showed up at the top of any google search regarding my company.

I have no issue one way or the other with anything here but rather am speaking from a source of common sense not hostility or retribution over my frustrations regarding any implied issues.

Doesn't this sound like a good idea? I'm sure your lawyer could draft an appropriate statement of the situation in a professional manner and dispell any misinformation making the statement easily and adequately available to all parties concerned as well as the general public who might stumble upon this or any other thread as I did.

Good Luck and I hope you accomplish what you feel will suffice for this issue.

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Posted: 9/23/2010 8:41:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Late Info Specials:

SAINTSIN 10 who the hell are you? have you ever had an account with BOSTON NORTH INC. if so you MUST OWE MONEY!! this company BOSTON NORTH INC has dealt with folks for years now and until this year with the misidentification of CREDITWAGERING have NEVER had any problems. How do i know simiple, I am a owner and if someone has been screwed please contact us nd let us explain all the garbage that is being spammed about is total bullshit and lies. Call Kevin and let him get this garbage out on the table once and for all!!

Listen little man.....don't slip on the Bull SHitt as it foams from your mouth.  You know damn well it is the same company.  Maybe next time you should learn your customers before doing business with an undercover FBI agent who exposed both of your scams.  BUSTED!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 9/24/2010 8:48:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Late Info Specials:

TO SAINTSIN 10 you are 100% full of garbage and I challenge you to show me how a company you personally admitted was located in CANADA can have an address in Maine and MA.?? You have never done business with BOSTON NORTH  nor do you have a clue what you are saying and doing for many others who really do have accounts and wish you would go away and die!!  you have all my info why not show me how much of a man you are and lets us all know who you are and we can make sure we are all on the same page.? Why should we not think that you are the owner of CREDIT WAGERING and that all this garbage is made up to get all the attention off you. You became a member in AUGUST when all of this garbage started to unwind!! It would be so easy to just bone up and let the world know who you are and where you are getting all your info from about my supposed  company located in CANADA!! I tend to think you will sit behind your computer and hide like all girl like to do when throughing around threats online!! I will say this that if anyone can identify this dipshit by name alone I will make it worth their while at least 500 times!! People like this fool who makes things up simiply becasue he thinks it is right is NOT and I cannot and will not sit around and let this scumbag take any further shots at myself and or Kevin Dibiase(who is me??) and the company we have worked so hard to make right and talk complete and utter bullshit about!!

Oh my....you are so tough!!!  A real life internet tough guy making threats online.  What a professional operation you run...with the high-tech yahoo accounts LOLOLOLOL.... What a great business.

Don't be upset because you were exposed......all 5 foot 2 of you do not scare me with your senseless threats (I garbage bigger than you little man).  Continue to make threats- I LOVE IT!!  Also- go watch some more re-runs of the Sopranos and jerk off like you always do....you wanna be, little piece of garbage.

 

EXPOSED!!!

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Posted: 9/24/2010 3:12:12 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Saintsin10:

Stay away from these frauds.  They have owed me money since March and made no attempt to pay.  They owe many people thousands of dollars and are not being responsive to requests.  DO NOT PLAY here or send these frauds any money.

They operate from the United States.

Hey Saints,

I am just curious. How much money do they owe you and did you actually give them real money or do they owe you money from games you bet on with the credit they gave you ?

Has anyone ever been paid by credit wagering ? This whole business model was a recipe for disaster from the start. 

Lou.   

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Posted: 9/24/2010 7:19:30 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Lou:

Hey Saints,

I am just curious. How much money do they owe you and did you actually give them real money or do they owe you money from games you bet on with the credit they gave you ?

Has anyone ever been paid by credit wagering ? This whole business model was a recipe for disaster from the start. 

Lou.   

 

I lost over $1,400 and paid every time.....I got up $750 one week (over 3 months age), requested a payout and have not been sent one dime.  It's more the point versus the money- The crook that run these books (which is the same guy), gladly takes money when you lose and then either doesn't pay out or delays for months until people lose what they originally requested.  They gave me a hard tim when I requested a payout and stopped playing.....even sent me threatening emails asking why I stopped playing!!  I told them I'm not playing until I get paid out....they told me they're not looking for players that are just taking shots, that I needed to continue to keep my account active by making daily wagers or my account would be closed.

 

CREDITWAGERING is a big-azz FRAUD OPERATION

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Posted: 9/25/2010 1:14:54 AM
I could easily teach a college class on fraud and the human nature that smells so much like garbage.
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Posted: 9/25/2010 2:11:45 AM
The Stiffs

That is some funny garbage.
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Posted: 9/25/2010 2:55:31 AM
Nobody should bet there, its has been said since Day 1.. They paid out TONS of people in the beginning then simply grabbed all the money they could, one huge scam
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Posted: 9/25/2010 9:55:45 AM
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Originally Posted by err:

Nobody should bet there, its has been said since Day 1.. They paid out TONS of people in the beginning then simply grabbed all the money they could, one huge scam

100% correct!  Bernie Madoff scheme.....here's what Creditwagering did:

1) Created 20-30 accounts on different watchdog sites...coverz, sbr, rx etc.  Started spreading the word about their book.

2) Paid a few, very few players early on

3) Posted BS stuff about how they "collect" and send people to your door and countless other unbelievable BS.....anyone that believed this needs to wake up.  Even local books don't operate in 2010 like they did in 1960.....no one comes to doors, breaks legs etc.  Total and complete BS.

4) Stopped paying winners and continued trying to collect money, then banished into thin air with all payouts.

5) NO PAYOUTS for months yet they still have their pathetic site up and running.

Total and complete Scum........anyone owed money such as myself please report this site to law enforcement and put these scumbags away.  I have sent their website and emails to local FBI offices in New Orleans as well as local city police. 

These guys give sportsbooks a bad name......and YES it is 100% MY FAULT for playing with them- I got what I deserved.  Don't let it happen to you.

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Posted: 9/25/2010 5:31:03 PM
its happening to me now also....owed 2 grand since the summer...been lke 4 months...they send me a damn debit card but for what purpose if its never fukin loaded
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Posted: 9/27/2010 4:56:49 PM
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Originally Posted by premier141:

its happening to me now also....owed 2 grand since the summer...been lke 4 months...they send me a damn debit card but for what purpose if its never fukin loaded

Welcome to the club.....Creditwagering is scum but at least with the FBI involved, maybe some of these low lifes will finally get theirs.....too damn lazy to move overseas to run a book, instead they think by not giving out an address or phone number they could run a book from US soil...bunch or morons!!  I also like the fake UPS address in Canada and Maine.  ScumBags

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Posted: 9/28/2010 7:58:31 PM
they are a bunch of pricks...I talked to them a while back via e-mail.  I received a response basically saying they would F up my sister and do her...I dont owe the person anything.  I responded by asking if they were 12 or 13 yr old punks...class act...stay away from them...GOING DOWN SOON....TRUST ME
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Posted: 10/11/2010 4:57:25 PM
still no payment from these crooks
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Posted: 10/11/2010 9:10:18 PM

I got paid by them over 2 years ago.  Couldnt believe it when I heard the money counting in the ATM.  I also quit when I was down just under the 300 or 400 weekly limit when you have to pay them if you want to keep betting and I never heard a thing from them or saw a picture posted on there.

 

Since I benefited from them hats off to these guys for having the balls to do a scheme like this.  Obviously they were gonna have to stiff people to make money, paying out winners while losers didnt pay is a losing recipe I guess they jumped ship at the right time.

 

Sorry to everyone who got fucked by these guys, if you had been down early enough you could have been one of the people like me who got paid and then stopped betting before going over the 400 weekly limit.  And I never paid them garbage.  They are cool in my book.

 

CW=chill.

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Posted: 10/12/2010 1:12:18 AM
How about we Go after these SCUM BAGS................... I say we get together and load up the clips and go get MONEY..... I never used them I use Bet Jamaica BUT I dont LIKE SCUM BAGS LIKE THIS WE NEED TO SEND A %^&*(*&^ MESSAGE. WHOS WITH ME!
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