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#1 Posted: 11/6/2008 11:29:38 PM
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By Corey Boles Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- The Treasury Department has finalized regulations that would effectively ban online gambling in the U.S. and is trying to have them implemented in the waning days of the Bush administration. The controversial rules would make it illegal for banks to process credit card transactions from most Internet gambling sites. Their implementation has been opposed by groups advocating individuals' right to gamble, the banking industry, Democratic lawmakers in Congress and even officials at the Federal Reserve. The rules stem from a last-minute addition to a law passed in the final hours of the Republican controlled Congress in 2006. The provisions related to online gambling were included in an unrelated port security bill. The Treausury Department forwarded the final regulations to the Office of Management and Budget on Oct. 21, a necessary step towards their implementation. It's standard practice for outgoing administrations to finalize controversial regulations before leaving office, a practice known as a midnight drop. The law as drafted by Congress includes some exemptionsfor horse race betting, interstate online lotteries and betting on fantasy sports. But draft rules published by the Treasury in October 2007 don't define what would be considered an illegal transaction, and there has been much confusion as to what types of online gambling would be rendered illegal. Banks have warned they may block all online gambling transactions rather than try to determine which ones are illegal. An official from the Federal Reserve testified before Congress in April that the draft regulations created considerable uncertainty. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, attempted to drum up support from fellow lawmakers for legislation that would amend the law to allow online gambling transactions to continue. He was unsuccessful but pledged to return to the issue next year. The Poker Players Alliance, a group formed to combat the law, has fought against its implementation. It argues that Internet poker should be exempted from the law. "It's really remarkable that this administration would try to push this out given the burden it would place on financial institutions at this time of financial crisis," said John Pappas, the executive director of the group. Pappas is meeting Friday with officials from the OMB, whose job it is to formally implement the regulations, in a last ditch effort to prevent them from being put on the books. He wants officials to wait until President-elect Barack Obama's administration takes office in January to allow for a thorough review of the potential impact of the rules. A Treasury spokeswoman did not return phone calls seeking comment for this report. -By Corey Boles, Dow Jones Newswires; 202-862-6601; corey.boles@dowjones.com Click here to go to Dow Jones NewsPlus, a web front page of today's most important business and market news, analysis and commentary: http://www.djnewsplus.com/al?rnd=yaK%2B9URUjz2GfabgsG5QBg%3D%3D. You can use this link on the day this article is published and the following day.
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#2 Posted: 11/7/2008 10:21:43 AM f-ing republicans
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#3 Posted: 11/7/2008 12:53:05 PM Well the Democrats are in charge now. Let's see if they change anything.
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#4 Posted: 11/7/2008 2:56:47 PM I don't see this going anywhere... and if it does I don't see it really effecting anything
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#5 Posted: 11/7/2008 8:11:38 PM Joanne, thanks as you always pull up these articles that many of us don't catch. |
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#6 Posted: 11/8/2008 1:02:01 AM I care to make a wager that it won't get any worse Lippsman. How come some idiot always has something to say in defense of republicans? Bill Frist inserted the legislation into the Port Security Act at the last minute on his way out the door. Google him you moron and then tell me what party he's from. Then google Barney Frank and internet gambling. Like it or not it's the f'n conservatives that did this S**t. I know it's hard to deal with the fact that you've been had and lied to by your precious party but you might as well start dealing with it. |
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#7 Posted: 11/8/2008 10:55:47 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Leadoff10:
I care to make a wager that it won't get any worse Lippsman. How come some idiot always has something to say in defense of republicans? Bill Frist inserted the legislation into the Port Security Act at the last minute on his way out the door. Google him you moron and then tell me what party he's from. Then google Barney Frank and internet gambling. Like it or not it's the f'n conservatives that did this S**t. I know it's hard to deal with the fact that you've been had and lied to by your precious party but you might as well start dealing with it.
Hmmmm....typical, can't have a conversation without name calling. Not surprised. I'm not defending anyone, I'm am saying the democrats don't care about the situation.
Once again, lets see if the democrats stop this...shall we. |
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#8 Posted: 11/10/2008 12:53:03 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Lippsman:
Well the Democrats are in charge now. Let's see if they change anything.
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#9 Posted: 11/10/2008 2:37:38 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Leadoff10:
I care to make a wager that it won't get any worse Lippsman. How come some idiot always has something to say in defense of republicans? Bill Frist inserted the legislation into the Port Security Act at the last minute on his way out the door. Google him you moron and then tell me what party he's from. Then google Barney Frank and internet gambling. Like it or not it's the f'n conservatives that did this S**t. I know it's hard to deal with the fact that you've been had and lied to by your precious party but you might as well start dealing with it.
They are on the way out and will not be back for a long time or at least till the Democrats screw things up
(damn...I used to be one of em before they f holed the world)
I'm afraid Obama will have more pressing problems to deal with then recind the gambling ban. |
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#10 Posted: 11/10/2008 7:05:29 PM
A few questions:
1) Will this pass with Democrats probably against it?
2) If it does pass, how am I affected? I use Beted, and use instant deposit's. Aren't these site using processor's (middlemen) so that technically it isn't illegal?
3) Will we see sites, like Beted (and others) move to block US Consumers before this law is passed like we saw before? |
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#11 Posted: 11/11/2008 12:46:40 AM Same shit, different day.
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#12 Posted: 11/11/2008 10:02:36 AM how about saving the auto industry from going down..like gm..chrsyler.....this issues might get priorty |
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#13 Posted: 11/11/2008 12:53:55 PM amazing to me that they can stieal your money with the lottery games and horse racing is allowed through the internet , So what is the probkly with putting couple shells on a game?Maybe if they allowed people to put a few shells on a game or two maybe sports rartings would go up more hmmm. |
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#14 Posted: 11/11/2008 1:00:57 PM What is canada stand on online wagering? |
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#15 Posted: 11/12/2008 3:37:28 AM God gives individuals a choice. In a "free" society, some people will live their lives and go to heaven, and some people will live their lives and go to hell. God let's individuals choose how to live their own individual lives, and Republicans do not let individuals choose how to live their own individual lives. That is the "real" crime here, not "responsible" internet gambling. |
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#16 Posted: 11/13/2008 6:11:38 PM lippsman, I see no way that the Democrats can try to make internet gambling legal immediately. Way too many other problems that exist, however maybe once those problems are solved we can attack this problem. My question is though, why is this administration so intent on passing legislation to make internet gambling illegal
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#17 Posted: 11/13/2008 6:40:00 PM Just one last kick in the nuts by the current fascist republican party. With all of the serious problems that this nation is facing, our government is hell bent on banning poker and sportsbetting. You have to love it. Talk about fiddling while Rome is burning. The republicans have no answer to our loss of decent paying jobs, the housing crisis, our growing energy crisis, a foreign war costing billions, not to mention our loss of international credibility. Out of political correctness they just continue to pass over zealous laws which only harm everyday Americans.The Obama administration cannot come into power soon enough as far as I am concerned. I am optimistic that these draconian laws will finally be eased and the Bill of Rights will return to the American people.  |
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#18 Posted: 11/13/2008 6:54:45 PM They don't want Americans spending/losing their money online gambling. They would rather risk American's not having the option to do it and hope those American's will use that money in our economy. I dunno...just a thought |
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#19 Posted: 11/14/2008 4:00:38 AM Have the people who if they can't gamble online will probably find a shady ass bookie and bet more than they would if they just had a number sitting in there account and some possibly ending up getting their asses kicked for not being able to pay, instead establish american online books and tax it, wouldn't that help fix out economy more than trying to make banks establish stupid ass measures to try to stop deposits and withdrawals when they have much more important shit to worry about. Its also ridiculous because in the law horse racing is still allowed and is called a game of skill. This is only because they had their lobbyists throw money at the right people to let it still be legal to bet ponies online. Also gambling on fantasy football is still allowed for the same reason. So its a game of skill to gamble on which players will do the best but not which teams will win on a given day? Land of the free? Let people spend their money how they want if you want to make money off it then tax it. I may move to canada. |
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#20 Posted: 11/14/2008 6:01:54 AM Another good reason to live in a cilivlized society...down with the puritanical idiots. Gambling winnings aren't even taxed here.
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#21 Posted: 11/14/2008 4:31:47 PM  |
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#22 Posted: 11/14/2008 11:11:02 PM I might move to Hong Kong.....that's China  |
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#23 Posted: 11/15/2008 12:03:02 AM isn't most sportsbooks process your deposit uniquely then they use to with direct transactions?
and if this passes, does it really matter? i mean i know books that don't really process your deposits directly anymore... |
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#24 Posted: 11/15/2008 6:01:58 AM i understand they want to tax our money several times, but damn dont they have anything better to do? do the republicans even care about the ecomomy? i dont undrestand why they just dont make it legal and just run several books themselves. they could fund the stupidass war with the earnings.
this may not make much sense, im tired. |
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