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Question for you Donjuan,,,If you are so much for the middle class and what's  good for the little guy ...why are you not in support of Bernie Sanders over Hillary ?  Bernie's campaign is focusing on helping America's struggling middle class.

It is his economic agenda,that that puts the spotlight on the collapsing middle class..far more than Hiillary's.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Question for you Donjuan,,,If you are so much for the middle class and what's  good for the little guy ...why are you not in support of Bernie Sanders over Hillary ?  Bernie's campaign is focusing on helping America's struggling middle class.

It is his economic agenda,that that puts the spotlight on the collapsing middle class..far more than Hiillary's.



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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

This should have been asked of the Liberal that brought it up to start with---not someone that compared the two.  He didn't say he was against it---just simply point out that Obama can't do it...yet.

Are you ever truly caught up in any conversation?  Just nitpicking the Right about a subject is immature to me. 



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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Question for you Donjuan,,,If you are so much for the middle class and what's  good for the little guy ...why are you not in support of Bernie Sanders over Hillary ?  Bernie's campaign is focusing on helping America's struggling middle class.

It is his economic agenda,that that puts the spotlight on the collapsing middle class..far more than Hiillary's.

I do support what Bernie is saying, In fact I just said earlier that I thought Bernie will become Hillary's Vice President.  But I doubt if Bernie can beat her this time though, because he doesn't have the popularity that Obama had in 2008, nor his charisma.

But I love what Bernie Sanders is saying and trying to do for the middle class. .

 
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True enough,, he may not have the popularity ,,but he does have the enthusiasm factor and that factor is proving to be an issue with Hillary..if you can't get them enthused,, they won't get up out of the lounge chair to vote ( esp if the weather is bad) ...fact...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

I don't speak of any president like a God.

But compared to G H Bush and G W Bush...Obama and Clinton's were geniuses, and Great President's.    Hillary will be too, because Bill will be with her all the way. Buy one, get one free. ! Can't beat that deal !

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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

I don't speak of any president like a God.
But compared to G H Bush and G W Bush...Obama and Clinton's were geniuses, and Great President's.    Hillary will be too, because Bill will be with her all the way. Buy one, get one free. ! Can't beat that deal !


What you want to happen and what will happen and has happened are different. You sounds as desperate as sara and the rest of the lemmings
 
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Sit on the sidelines and shoot at both sides ...very safe ,,but veryless........

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

True enough,, he may not have the popularity ,,but he does have the enthusiasm factor and that factor is proving to be an issue with Hillary..if you can't get them enthused,, they won't get up out of the lounge chair to vote ( esp if the weather is bad) ...fact...

Slim Sanders is a good man but the facts are a vote for sanders by enough people will only put Booosh 3 in WH, just like voting for Ross EDS Perrot and taking votes away from Booosh 1 .....Capiche ?
 
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Not so ..Bush 3 would be Jeb Bush and he's not going to win the Republican nomination (I don't care if he self Identifies as being a Mexican )  and you can take that to the bank..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Not so ..Bush 3 would be Jeb Bush and he's not going to win the Republican nomination (I don't care if he self Identifies as being a Mexican )  and you can take that to the bank..

Please Slim just look for the $$$ Jebite has a chest as large as top 2.5 dems and union $ vs PAC $ is like a 20,000 claimer vs a grade1 stud. When clown leaves in cloud of smoke the figure standing will be Jeb " don't call me Bush" Bush.....I see I'm going to need another box of Kleenex! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Sit on the sidelines and shoot at both sides ...very safe ,,but veryless........


Interesting preoccupation with balls. I guess you are what you eat and you have always been nuts. Or at least acted that way especially when you have a melt down. Lol
 
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Please Slim just look for the $$$ Jebite has a chest as large as top 2.5 dems and union $ vs PAC $ is like a 20,000 claimer vs a grade1 stud. When clown leaves in cloud of smoke the figure standing will be Jeb " don't call me Bush" Bush.....I see I'm going to need another box of Kleenex! 

Well ,if the amount of money in a Presidential candidates war chest determines who wins ..than Donald Trump will be the next President of the United states ..because his war chest is 90X's greater then Jeb Bushes.

Barry Goldwater's losing campaign spent $17.2 million, significantly more than Johnson's $12 million expenditure..

JFK had less than Nixon and won..

Carter had less tha Ford and won

Bill Clinton had less than Dole and won

The amount of cash in a war chest only counts on how you use  the cash..not so much as the amount..For the third quarter of 2007, Hillary Clinton led all candidates with $27 million raised and with 100,000 new contributors,,This beat Obama's $20 million and we all know how that turned out..

 
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:


Slim Sanders is a good man but the facts are a vote for sanders by enough people will only put Booosh 3 in WH, just like voting for Ross EDS Perrot and taking votes away from Booosh 1 .....Capiche ?
I don't see it this way. Perrot was a third party and took votes away from Bush to put Clinton in. Sanders will not be a third party. Either he wins the democratic nomination or he doesn't. Democrats do an excellent job of getting behind whomever wins their nomination. It is the republicans that are fractured and jaded and vote for the third party candidates and take away votes from their candidate. I think Bush beats Sanders straight up. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Not so ..Bush 3 would be Jeb Bush and he's not going to win the Republican nomination (I don't care if he self Identifies as being a Mexican )  and you can take that to the bank..
Really?  I think he does. Who do you think at this point does?
 
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Really?  I think he does. Who do you think at this point does?


At this point, I think it will be anyone but Jeb Bush..I'm pulling for Ted Cruz to be the nominee, but it's looong slog..till next year.anything can happen.
 
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You have always been known for your "pulling".

Weird that you're not "blowing" your "trump"ette, but I guess someone of your ability and desire can both "pull" and "blow" two candidates at once.

At least that's what it looks like you're doing here
 
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At this point, I think it will be anyone but Jeb Bush..I'm pulling for Ted Cruz to be the nominee, but it's looong slog..till next year.anything can happen.
Cool. But I don't think so.  I find it hard to be anyone but Bush.  I'm ikay with him. Mainly because I think he is the only one that can beat Clinton. Sure I would like a couple of others.  But they simply cannot beat Clinton of actually any Joe Schmo as clearly demonstrated in the first BHO election. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Cool. But I don't think so.  I find it hard to be anyone but Bush.  I'm ikay with him. Mainly because I think he is the only one that can beat Clinton. Sure I would like a couple of others.  But they simply cannot beat Clinton of actually any Joe Schmo as clearly demonstrated in the first BHO election. 


That's assuming Hillary get's the nod....Joe Biden may still run..and for those that like Obama we'er talking about Obama 3.  Joe  would try to ride Obama's popularity and try to maintain his legacy..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Quote: Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim] At this point, I think it will be anyone but Jeb Bush..I'm pulling for Ted Cruz to be the nominee, but it's looong slog..till next year.anything can happen.
Cool. But I don't think so.  I find it hard to be anyone but Bush.  I'm ikay with him. Mainly because I think he is the only one that can beat Clinton. Sure I would like a couple of others.  But they simply cannot beat Clinton of actually any Joe Schmo as clearly demonstrated in the first BHO election.


Sounds pretty desperate. I've heard rhetoric about not voting for cruz and supporting the bigotted trump then supporting cruZ, voting for bush/not voting for bush cause he's a rino.

Lol the GOP party is in shambles!

With nothing or no one to stand behind, it is basically waving the white flag admitting they have no one or nothing offer america.

And because of they are clearly waving the white flag, they will mindlessly back who ever is prescribed to them to back.

Whether it's trump, cruZ, bush, palin, romey, McCain, jindal, Lindsey, Bachman, Carson, Rubio, Santorum, walker, Zimmerman or who ever in this clusterfuuk freak show line up of of people everyone knows won't win.

Maybe bush is the best desperate shot because he appears to have the most money and the longest trail of money behind him. Makes sense to for his base to support the candidate that is most sold out.


Sounds pretty desperate. I've heard rhetoric about not voting for cruz and supporting the bigotted trump then supporting cruZ, voting for bush/not voting for bush cause he's a rino.

Lol the GOP party is in shambles!

With nothing or no one to stand behind, it is basically waving the white flag admitting they have no one or nothing offer america.

And because of they are clearly waving the white flag, they will mindlessly back who ever is prescribed to them to back.

Whether it's trump, cruZ, bush, palin, romey, McCain, jindal, Lindsey, Bachman, Carson, Rubio, Santorum, walker, Zimmerman or who ever in this clusterfuuk freak show line up of of people everyone knows won't win.

Maybe bush is the best desperate shot because he appears to have the most money and the longest trail of money behind him. Makes sense to for his base to support the candidate that is most sold out.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



That's assuming Hillary get's the nod....Joe Biden may still run..and for those that like Obama we'er talking about Obama 3.  Joe  would try to ride Obama's popularity and try to maintain his legacy..
Correct.  But I think Bush could beat Biden as well.  It will just be too hard for other to beat the Democratic nominee I feel.  Actually think Biden is a safer choice for Democrats. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Correct.  But I think Bush could beat Biden as well.  It will just be too hard for other to beat the Democratic nominee I feel.  Actually think Biden is a safer choice for Democrats. 


When the president is not running again for the presidency and the vice president wants his party's nomination,usually it's his for the asking.

Statistics (historically speaking) reveal that Joe Biden,has a more considerable chance of success,, than all other political offices in the 2016 election  .Plus,as the sitting VP, Obama would almost be compelled to support him..so we would have theoretically speaking... Obama vs.Hillary again...and we all know how that turned out the last time..
 
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[Quote:Originally Posted by Raiders22]Quote: Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim] At this point, I think it will be anyone but Jeb Bush..I'm pulling for Ted Cruz to be the nominee, but it's looong slog..till next year.anything can happen.
Cool. But I don't think so.  I find it hard to be anyone but Bush.  I'm ikay with him. Mainly because I think he is the only one that can beat Clinton. Sure I would like a couple of others.  But they simply cannot beat Clinton of actually any Joe Schmo as clearly demonstrated in the first BHO election.
Sounds pretty desperate. I've heard rhetoric about not voting for cruz and supporting the bigotted trump then supporting cruZ, voting for bush/not voting for bush cause he's a rino. Lol the GOP party is in shambles! With nothing or no one to stand behind, it is basically waving the white flag admitting they have no one or nothing offer america.And because of they are clearly waving the white flag, they will mindlessly back who ever is prescribed to them to back. Whether it's trump, cruZ, bush, palin, romey, McCain, jindal, Lindsey, Bachman, Carson, Rubio, Santorum, walker, Zimmerman or who ever in this clusterfuuk freak show line up of of people everyone knows won't win.Maybe bush is the best desperate shot because he appears to have the most money and the longest trail of money behind him. Makes sense to for his base to support the candidate that is most sold out.


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Sounds pretty desperate. I've heard rhetoric about not voting for cruz and supporting the bigotted trump then supporting cruZ, voting for bush/not voting for bush cause he's a rino. Lol the GOP party is in shambles! With nothing or no one to stand behind, it is basically waving the white flag admitting they have no one or nothing offer america.And because of they are clearly waving the white flag, they will mindlessly back who ever is prescribed to them to back. Whether it's trump, cruZ, bush, palin, romey, McCain, jindal, Lindsey, Bachman, Carson, Rubio, Santorum, walker, Zimmerman or who ever in this clusterfuuk freak show line up of of people everyone knows won't win.Maybe bush is the best desperate shot because he appears to have the most money and the longest trail of money behind him. Makes sense to for his base to support the candidate that is most sold out.


Sorry I missed Paul
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



When the president is not running again for the presidency and the vice president wants his party's nomination,usually it's his for the asking.

Statistics (historically speaking) reveal that Joe Biden,has a more considerable chance of success,, than all other political offices in the 2016 election  .Plus,as the sitting VP, Obama would almost be compelled to support him..so we would have theoretically speaking... Obama vs.Hillary again...and we all know how that turned out the last time..
Absolutely.  Outside of a Gore or Kerry. Biden has to be the best chance.  But either gonna be hard for Republicans to beat.  Especially if a third party fouls it up for them. 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Absolutely.  Outside of a Gore or Kerry. Biden has to be the best chance.  But either gonna be hard for Republicans to beat.  Especially if a third party fouls it up for them. 


Raiders22,

I found this little tidbit interesting ...in US News and World Report :

Bernie Sanders is drawing more of Barack Obama's 2012 campaign donors than Hillary Clinton..3 to 1.

Sanders has already received contributions from 24,582 of Obama's donors; whereas Clinton has only tapped just over 9,000 of them..and Ted Cruz is landing more of Romney's donors (1,840) than Jeb Bush (1,562).
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