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Author: [Politics] Topic: Macroeconomics and Outsourcing
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Posted: 8/15/2012 12:38:23 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cave0707:

Hmmm ... "unfinished product" ...  So your assumption is that the materials used to make the product for company XYZ comes from the U.S.  I guess it would depend on the product but if you're talking about making semiconductors, motherboards, flat screens, high tech gadgets ... none of that is from the U.S.  Those components are from Taiwan, China, South Korea and Japan.  I believe your logistics background allows you to understand the benefits for the transportation sector but doesn't take into account the net effect at the macro economic level.  I wouldn't assume that Americans don't want manufacturing jobs.  When Toyota started its truck manufacturing unit in San Antonio several years back, the local community didn't say, "we don't want those low end jobs".

If the raw materials didn't come from the US then I wouldn't have  brought the discussion up.

The reason I made this thread in the first place was because I saw John Stossell do a segment on television concerning this. If you are interested I'm sure you could google it and find it.

I've never owned a company but I work in the logistics field. Don't take my word for it. Ask business owners who actually have lived it.

Manufacturing jobs at car manufacturing plants are good manufacturing jobs. The specific example in question (the one Stossell was covering) was in a field picking cotton (I think) and converting them into materials for clothing.
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Posted: 8/16/2012 12:13:46 AM
You lose manufacturing in this country and we are doomed. There are thousands of manufacturing jobs open right now that are not filled bc we no longer have the skillsets.
I for one disagree that outsourcing for the sake of the bottom line does any long term good for this country.
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Posted: 8/16/2012 12:19:50 AM
And for full disclosure I own a manufacturing company so I have lived it. If Pratt and Whitney wants to sell engines to say India then they will usually give them some job incentives. This is good business on one hand bc PW can get the deal inked and sell their engines which does create jobs here. The problem is we are giving them very high paying type work, training them and sharing our technological secrets with them. If they gave them widgets to make that would be one thing but sadly that is not the case
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Posted: 8/16/2012 12:21:39 AM
All the while our own manufacturing skills get placed on the back burner and we are feeling that pain right now and it will only get worse before it gets better regardless of who wins in November
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Posted: 8/16/2012 2:03:33 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by lordspoint:

You lose manufacturing in this country and we are doomed. There are thousands of manufacturing jobs open right now that are not filled bc we no longer have the skillsets.
I for one disagree that outsourcing for the sake of the bottom line does any long term good for this country.


so what is the solution to people having the skillsets?  you would figure with job/employment being an issue, getting workers the skills they need would be priority... but if all the jobs are being outsourced then people can not get the training/experience needed...




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Posted: 8/16/2012 7:12:10 AM
All the jobs aren't being outsourced DL.
Don't believe the hype....yes it's true many of the multi nationals are doing it but not all and not many small and medium companies are doing it.
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