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Posted: 7/18/2012 12:42:30 AM
Well, you haven't won the Cup since 1993. So, suck it.



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Posted: 7/18/2012 2:22:30 AM
the american dream ..............
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Posted: 7/18/2012 2:46:53 AM

This is apparently old news when you read the article.


Not surprising in the least. The US has allowed the banksters to run wild. Corporate influence over policy and regulation has allowed the wealth of the middle/low-class to be sacked by predatory interests. This doesn't explain disparity with respect to average.

As the article stated,  the property values explains it all. The value of a typical US household fell by 100,000, while the Canadian counterpart rose by 100,000.

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Posted: 7/18/2012 2:50:35 AM

Yo Stilln,

I could use some of those wing sauce recipes. I'm actually considering the purchase of a deep-fat fryer. I'm rocking the basic Franks Red Hot "Buffalo Sauce."

It ain't bad, but you've got me intrigued with these underground recipes.

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Posted: 7/18/2012 12:10:04 PM
More Canadian players have hoisted the Cup than American players since the beginning of the NHL and certainly since 1993.

And now we're richer than our American counterparts as well.

Suck on that.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by slikstiks99:

Yo Stilln,

I could use some of those wing sauce recipes. I'm actually considering the purchase of a deep-fat fryer. I'm rocking the basic Franks Red Hot "Buffalo Sauce."

It ain't bad, but you've got me intrigued with these underground recipes.



you going to accept my friend request or am i going to have to come find you?
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Got it Club

This better get me membership to the Church of ClubDirt.

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Posted: 7/18/2012 2:13:09 PM
Despite higher taxes and lower productivity, average household wealth is greater in Canada.  But US slide is caused by  currency decline and weak economy especially in real estate.
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Posted: 7/18/2012 3:07:23 PM

Yeah ..but those rich Canadians still have to come to the US for decent Health Care...........

Canada's top politician  decided to abandon his country’s socialized government health care system, to cross the border in seeking treatment for a heart condition.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by slikstiks99:

Yo Stilln,

I could use some of those wing sauce recipes. I'm actually considering the purchase of a deep-fat fryer. I'm rocking the basic Franks Red Hot "Buffalo Sauce."

It ain't bad, but you've got me intrigued with these underground recipes.



Yeah definitely. This is one of the recipes I use:

http://mikefuller.hubpages.com/hub/Wing-Sauce-Recipe

Disregard the picture of tomatoes... You got franks, butter, minced garlic ( this is the stuff I use ) , brown sugar, worcestershire sauce, and a couple drops of your other favorite hot sauce.

With the amount of sugar and butter, you want to add much less depending on how spicy. You can also add a couple teaspoons of apple cider vinegar if youd like. As well as if you want it spicier add a few drops of your favorite hot sauce to the franks mixture.

One other wings sauce mixture I've found to be really good is mixing your favorite barbeque sauce + http://imgur.com/m67KD

A couple tablespoons of the chilli garlic sauce is good you want to add more bbq sauce then chilli garlic sauce.
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Posted: 7/18/2012 4:47:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Stiln:

Well, you haven't won the Cup since 1993. So, suck it.



http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/17/the-average-canadian-is-now-richer-than-the-average-american/


Leetch wouldn't be holding the cup if wasn't for Messier hell if their weren't any Canadians on that team that year the Rangers wouldn't been able to beat a Junior team.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by gers:



Leetch wouldn't be holding the cup if wasn't for Messier hell if their weren't any Canadians on that team that year the Rangers wouldn't been able to beat a Junior team.


Hahaha I know I'm just messing
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Posted: 7/18/2012 5:05:15 PM
As the article stated,  the property values explains it all. The value of a typical US household fell by 100,000, while the Canadian counterpart rose by 100,000.

well then, if anyone bothered to read the article and think about it, they'd understand that this is backwards-assed

higher real estate prices make a country collectively poorer


Canada benefits from exporting so much petroleum (much of which goes to the U.S)

Not to mention, that our currency's went from 1.5 CAD/ 1.0 USD, all the way to parity over the last decade.

That and Canada doesn't have all the large slums of welfare recipients rotting away all their big cities, and dragging the averages down
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Posted: 7/18/2012 5:12:00 PM
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Hahaha I know I'm just messing

No problem we are next on the crosshairs by the way that is the corporate plan North America will feel the pain Greece is putting up with.
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Posted: 7/18/2012 5:29:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Yeah ..but those rich Canadians still have to come to the US for decent Health Care...........

Canada's top politician  decided to abandon his country’s socialized government health care system, to cross the border in seeking treatment for a heart condition.


Slim you felling okay no reference or spin on Barry
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Posted: 7/18/2012 7:12:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Yeah ..but those rich Canadians still have to come to the US for decent Health Care...........

Canada's top politician  decided to abandon his country’s socialized government health care system, to cross the border in seeking treatment for a heart condition.



Danny is not, nor has ever been our top politician. 

That story is quite old now, and yes he gave our health care system a black eye when seeking care south of the border.
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Posted: 7/18/2012 7:34:08 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Stiln:



Yeah definitely. This is one of the recipes I use:

http://mikefuller.hubpages.com/hub/Wing-Sauce-Recipe

Disregard the picture of tomatoes... You got franks, butter, minced garlic ( this is the stuff I use ) , brown sugar, worcestershire sauce, and a couple drops of your other favorite hot sauce.

With the amount of sugar and butter, you want to add much less depending on how spicy. You can also add a couple teaspoons of apple cider vinegar if youd like. As well as if you want it spicier add a few drops of your favorite hot sauce to the franks mixture.

One other wings sauce mixture I've found to be really good is mixing your favorite barbeque sauce + http://imgur.com/m67KD

A couple tablespoons of the chilli garlic sauce is good you want to add more bbq sauce then chilli garlic sauce.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by gers:

Slim you felling okay no reference or spin on Barry

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Gers, I'm still working on this angle..

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Posted: 7/18/2012 8:20:24 PM

Be Easy.

I still don't quite understand what you are getting at with the inverse relationship between property values and collective wealth.

Not all property values in Canada have increased. Many have decreased. The major metropolitan areas in Canada have seen a nice increase, especially Calgary. Overall, the growth seems healthy and natural. Highly desirable areas have gained in value as they should in a healthy economic climate with a growing population.

I don't see how you can characterize this as bad. There might not even be a net increase in property values. The property values in the outskirts have dwindled or stagnated and the major metropolitan areas have seen nice increases in value, especially residential.

Imagine you own a house in Calgary and some property a hundred-or-so miles away. Your house may have increased in value by 100-200,000, but the value of your distant property most likely fell by 100-200,000, maybe more.

I guess this article is more an issue of the US residential real estate FALLING OFF THE MAP. Anyhow, I don't think you could characterize the property values of Canadian households as artificially high to the detriment of the the collective wealth/well being of the nation. You should bump a thread on the topic of that inverse relationship.

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Posted: 7/18/2012 8:31:06 PM

Stilln.

Thanks for posting that wing info. Can't wait to try it out.

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Posted: 7/19/2012 4:09:49 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Renton:



Danny is not, nor has ever been our top politician. 

That story is quite old now, and yes he gave our health care system a black eye when seeking care south of the border.


yeah that seemed like another desperate attempt to grasp at anything...

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Posted: 7/19/2012 9:18:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Yeah ..but those rich Canadians still have to come to the US for decent Health Care...........

Canada's top politician  decided to abandon his country’s socialized government health care system, to cross the border in seeking treatment for a heart condition.

Roughly 1% of Canadians seek healthcare in the US.  Vast majority of Canadians are proud of their healthcare system.  Besides, Americans travel to other countries for healthcare too.
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Posted: 7/19/2012 10:51:46 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by slikstiks99:

Be Easy.

I still don't quite understand what you are getting at with the inverse relationship between property values and collective wealth.

Not all property values in Canada have increased. Many have decreased. The major metropolitan areas in Canada have seen a nice increase, especially Calgary. Overall, the growth seems healthy and natural. Highly desirable areas have gained in value as they should in a healthy economic climate with a growing population.

I don't see how you can characterize this as bad. There might not even be a net increase in property values. The property values in the outskirts have dwindled or stagnated and the major metropolitan areas have seen nice increases in value, especially residential.

Imagine you own a house in Calgary and some property a hundred-or-so miles away. Your house may have increased in value by 100-200,000, but the value of your distant property most likely fell by 100-200,000, maybe more.

I guess this article is more an issue of the US residential real estate FALLING OFF THE MAP. Anyhow, I don't think you could characterize the property values of Canadian households as artificially high to the detriment of the the collective wealth/well being of the nation. You should bump a thread on the topic of that inverse relationship.



Think about what those high price tags actually mean

How wealthy would Americans be, if land was so abundant that you could buy an acre plot for 1$? On the other end of the spectrum, how wealthy would you feel if you had to work to earn 1M$ in order to buy a plot of land.

Americans were at their wealthiest when land was free. Prohibitive costs to ownership coupled with the taxes one has to pay in order to claim ownership over said land, makes everyone poorer

structures/building/houses all depreciate over time as they rot and decay away. So why exactly is it that we are supposed to think that if only we had higher RE values, then we'd all be more wealthy

maybe you could explain that theory, to me
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