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#1 Posted: 7/1/2012 9:51:12 AM Stockton, California filed bankruptcy after talks with bondholders and labor unions failed, making the agricultural center the biggest U.S. city to seek court protection from creditors. The city of 292,000 listed assets of more than $1 billion and debt of $500 million to $1 billion in court filings yesterday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Sacramento, California. The two biggest creditors named in the filing reflect the groups most likely to face cuts imposed as part of the bankruptcy: bondholders and city employees. ================= If more police & firefighters spur economic growth, why isn't Stockton booming? If the Democrats economic model is so great, why does this keep happening? Oh, and it is also worth noting that Stockton has one murder per 8,839 residents. Higher per capita than Chicago (another failed blue city). |
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#2 Posted: 7/1/2012 10:29:02 AM
Liberalism is a disease or a religion to most of those that are beholden.
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#3 Posted: 7/1/2012 11:31:27 AM
as for city politics, i don't know what's going on in stockton. i will say that i lived in atlanta for many years and was very familiar with city politics. it's a city completely run by democrats. if there's a more corrupt and incompetent group running a city, i'd hate to see it. truth is, atlanta is probably tied for first with dozens of others. it's an epidemic. you lose the media, you lose accountability and politicians just run free.
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#4 Posted: 7/1/2012 1:45:52 PM Honestly some of you nut jobs on this site crack me up.
Yes its always the democrats. Democrats ruin the country and republicans are the ones who can save it
Some of you are the exact reason this country is so messed up, everything in your life revolves around democrats vs republicans.
The truth is both sides are bad. I hate to burst your bubbles but its a people issue, not a democrat vs republican one. All the people in office are just down right crooks who are in politics to fatten up their own wallets.
So all you republicans, get off your high horse because your not the countries saviours |
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#6 Posted: 7/2/2012 2:55:44 AM I'm about 50 miles away from Stockton and trust me, they are not hiring more police and firefighters. On the contrary, the force has been dramatically reduced, and that's been the case for the last few years. Coincidentally, leading to more crimes and criminal activity, but that's another story.
Great downtown atmosphere with their double A team, the Ports to watch some good games and food, but outside of that the city is in a major despair. |
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#7 Posted: 7/2/2012 8:56:04 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329: Honestly some of you nut jobs on this site crack me up.
Yes its always the democrats. Democrats ruin the country and republicans are the ones who can save it
Some of you are the exact reason this country is so messed up, everything in your life revolves around democrats vs republicans.
The truth is both sides are bad. I hate to burst your bubbles but its a people issue, not a democrat vs republican one. All the people in office are just down right crooks who are in politics to fatten up their own wallets.
So all you republicans, get off your high horse because your not the countries saviours
Notice the utter denial of reality and inability to criticize Democrats under any circumstances.
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#8 Posted: 7/2/2012 10:17:45 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by 14daroad:
Notice the utter denial of reality and inability to criticize Democrats under any circumstances.
C'mon now. Clinton, Carter, and bozo were all perfect. Bush couldn't do anything right. Blowjob certainly didn't leave office as the country trundled into recession nor set the stage for 9/11 and Bush just got lucky for 50 consecutive months growing jobs. No other president ever has gotten that lucky, but luck it was. Let's not even talk about
RWR.
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#9 Posted: 7/2/2012 10:51:05 AM 
Stockton girl
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#10 Posted: 7/2/2012 11:11:58 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
there are close to 500 cities in california. stockton may be the worst one.
as for city politics, i don't know what's going on in stockton. i will say that i lived in atlanta for many years and was very familiar with city politics. it's a city completely run by democrats. if there's a more corrupt and incompetent group running a city, i'd hate to see it. truth is, atlanta is probably tied for first with dozens of others. it's an epidemic. you lose the media, you lose accountability and politicians just run free.
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#11 Posted: 7/2/2012 12:08:28 PM Sorry da road its not denial and my post wasnt directed at this stoclton thing. My post was about all you nut case republicans constantly thinking everything a republican does is right and everything a democrat does is wrong.
Republicans arent God so stop believing you are.
It just cracks me up how you nut cases believe that republican ways is the only way and since you are republican, you can never be wrong.
Its funny how you republicans over look the fact that it was your great idol Ronnie Reagan who did a huge number on our country. Hes the one who started letting corporation move jobs overseas, with no penalities for doing it. Hes the bonehead that started the useless war on drugs, which God only knows how much its cost our country.
So really stop believing republicans are God like, because your not |
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#12 Posted: 7/2/2012 12:16:23 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by captjohn67:
go west on i20 for about 140 miles
atlanta is special, but i'm sure there are a lot of solid candidates fro most corrupt local governments.
what's going on in birmingham?
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#13 Posted: 7/2/2012 1:41:41 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
Honestly some of you nut jobs on this site crack me up.
Yes its always the democrats. Democrats ruin the country and republicans are the ones who can save it
Some of you are the exact reason this country is so messed up, everything in your life revolves around democrats vs republicans.
The truth is both sides are bad. I hate to burst your bubbles but its a people issue, not a democrat vs republican one. All the people in office are just down right crooks who are in politics to fatten up their own wallets.
So all you republicans, get off your high horse because your not the countries saviours
CD,
Is that the only argument you've got? Really? The truth is posted about the effects of liberalism and your only point is to compare conservatives to God?
You knew this was going to happen. You knew that cities cant afford those pensions and bennies.
You spent the money now take the Monday morning quarterbacking.
 "People take less money per hour to get those bennies and fat pensions"
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#14 Posted: 7/2/2012 1:50:03 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by 14daroad:
Notice the utter denial of reality and inability to criticize Democrats under any circumstances.
This is true.... look at the"War on Poverty"started by LBJ (D) when it started in the 60's the people living below the proverty threshold has remained the same ,,,between 11 and 15.2% ever since..
After spending almost $15 trillion.... poverty rates are about the same as it was during the Johnson Administration....
"Poor People have been voting for Democrats For the last 50 years ... and they are still poor."
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#15 Posted: 7/2/2012 1:59:21 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
atlanta is special, but i'm sure there are a lot of solid candidates fro most corrupt local governments.
what's going on in birmingham?
neighborhood leaders (whatever the hell that is) spending taxpayers money
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/02/birmingham_council_will_tackle.html |
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#16 Posted: 7/2/2012 3:01:05 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by 14daroad: Stockton, California filed bankruptcy after talks with bondholders and labor unions failed, making the agricultural center the biggest U.S. city to seek court protection from creditors. The city of 292,000 listed assets of more than $1 billion and debt of $500 million to $1 billion in court filings yesterday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Sacramento, California. The two biggest creditors named in the filing reflect the groups most likely to face cuts imposed as part of the bankruptcy: bondholders and city employees. ================= If more police & firefighters spur economic growth, why isn't Stockton booming? If the Democrats economic model is so great, why does this keep happening? Oh, and it is also worth noting that Stockton has one murder per 8,839 residents. Higher per capita than Chicago (another failed blue city).
Chicago is a "failed blue city"? Seems like your opinion, not a fact.
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#17 Posted: 7/2/2012 3:23:13 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by captjohn67:
neighborhood leaders (whatever the hell that is) spending taxpayers money
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/02/birmingham_council_will_tackle.html
oh dear 
The controversy over expenses to send 168 neighborhood leaders and city
staffers to a convention in Alaska is overblown and will be resolved on
Tuesday, Birmingham Mayor William Bell's chief of staff said.
this is one of my favorites from atlanta.
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#18 Posted: 7/2/2012 4:21:27 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2:
Chicago is a "failed blue city"? Seems like your opinion, not a fact.
facts and cut/paste fools dont go together... 
now if you are talking biased partisan propaganda and Spin... I think they got that department handled... I always said that these usual suspects should consider becoming new casters in some communist/dictatorship country like China or North Korea... 
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#19 Posted: 7/2/2012 5:54:21 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2:
Chicago is a "failed blue city"? Seems like your opinion, not a fact.
250 murders in Chicago in the first 6th months of the year.
Fewer US troops have died in Afghanistan.
Otherwise; Chicago: $63,525 debt per household;
Lost 200,000 people and18.6% of its private-sector jobs from '00 to '09.
Note, I won't even bother to post statistics about the public schools.
By which standard is Chicago succeeding?
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#20 Posted: 7/2/2012 5:56:29 PM
18,000,000 + jobs created under Reagan.
So horrible!
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#21 Posted: 7/2/2012 5:56:57 PM
Poverty rate in 1965: 14.7%
Poverty rate now: 15.1% |
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#22 Posted: 7/2/2012 5:58:44 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329: Sorry da road its not denial and my post wasnt directed at this stoclton thing. My post was about all you nut case republicans constantly thinking everything a republican does is right and everything a democrat does is wrong.
Republicans arent God so stop believing you are.
It just cracks me up how you nut cases believe that republican ways is the only way and since you are republican, you can never be wrong.
Its funny how you republicans over look the fact that it was your great idol Ronnie Reagan who did a huge number on our country. Hes the one who started letting corporation move jobs overseas, with no penalities for doing it. Hes the bonehead that started the useless war on drugs, which God only knows how much its cost our country.
So really stop believing republicans are God like, because your not
Notice the utter denial of reality and inability to criticize Democrats under any circumstances.
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#23 Posted: 7/2/2012 6:31:59 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2:
Chicago is a "failed blue city"? Seems like your opinion, not a fact.
Citing Chicago’s “persistent economic challenges,” Moody’s affirmed the Aa3 rating on $7.78 billion of debt while changing the outlook from stable.
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#24 Posted: 7/2/2012 6:38:43 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2:
Chicago is a "failed blue city"? Seems like your opinion, not a fact.
August 18, 2011 Chicago Public Schools today reported generally mixed, flat or declining scores on the 2011 Prairie State Achievement Exam (PSAE), an annual test administered mainly to high school juniors. The test shows only 7.9% of those students meeting college readiness benchmarks with the overall district composite declining by 1 percentage point over last year. 
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