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Posted: 2/26/2012 5:19:36 PM
I admit I'm really not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to politics , but I want to learn .. Glad I found this forum ..
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Posted: 2/26/2012 5:43:10 PM
I would say that since both parties, and most candidates are for taking away the 4th amendment, I think the most important issue for me this election will be the 2nd amendment.  

If I was 100% sure that Obama would not darn with the 2nd Amendment or try to re-instate the assault weapons ban, I would think about voting for him, and that pains me to say. 
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Posted: 2/26/2012 6:12:29 PM
vote against anyone with ties to Harvard and the state of Massachusetts....that alone will start this Country moving in the right direction.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 6:25:18 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rick3117:

I would say that since both parties, and most candidates are for taking away the 4th amendment, I think the most important issue for me this election will be the 2nd amendment.  

If I was 100% sure that Obama would not darn with the 2nd Amendment or try to re-instate the assault weapons ban, I would think about voting for him, and that pains me to say. 

President Obama has too much on his plate in the next four years. If he can get control of the House and keep the Senate, his focus will be the economy first, foreign policy second, and a host of other important issues.

 

So the most important thing one can do is vote for a Congress that will work "with" him, and end this stalemate madness. I mean let's give him what he needs, and if it doesn't work out in the next 4 years, throw all of them out.

Gridlock is killing us.

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Posted: 2/26/2012 6:28:59 PM
rick,

Why are you against an assault weapons ban?

Do you or any citizen need to own assault weapons? 

And you can hold off on the military-taking-us-over excuse, that seems quite soft of a reason to justify the type of weapon you are excusing.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 6:49:41 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

President Obama has too much on his plate in the next four years. If he can get control of the House and keep the Senate, his focus will be the economy first, foreign policy second, and a host of other important issues.

 

So the most important thing one can do is vote for a Congress that will work "with" him, and end this stalemate madness. I mean let's give him what he needs, and if it doesn't work out in the next 4 years, throw all of them out.

Gridlock is killing us.


Thank God for gridlock.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 7:05:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

rick,

Why are you against an assault weapons ban?

Do you or any citizen need to own assault weapons? 

And you can hold off on the military-taking-us-over excuse, that seems quite soft of a reason to justify the type of weapon you are excusing.
You're right...if there was a ban on assault weapons then the Justice Dept would not of allowed them to flow into Mexico to be used to kill hundreds of people.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 7:21:03 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Upside:

I admit I'm really not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to politics , but I want to learn .. Glad I found this forum ..


Welcome to the politics forum

what do you want to learn?

This forum is good for the following things...

1. Learning about partisan rhetoric, Spin and talking points... and arguing them in the face of logical reality...

2. Learning how to make multiple accounts and using another one once one of them gets banned... or making multiple accounts to make it look like multiple posters are agreeing with you...

3.  Learning how to cut and paste links and text and littering the forum with leaflets of propaganda.... some site their source, some just plagiarize...

4.  Learning how to stalk people by cataloging and recording everything they ever post and all their threads bookmarked so that you can go on a "bump tantrum"  when you have embarrassed yourself again...

You will also notice the "al sharpton" of the forum as he will cry about injustice for every possible petty thing and that try to regulate the whole forum like a wannabe mod, making sure to cry to them about what his upsetting his apple cart...

You will come to know the minority of quality posters from the "Aliases" and "Alias supporters" who blindly side with them...


Covers knows

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Posted: 2/26/2012 7:46:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36:



Welcome to the politics forum

what do you want to learn?

This forum is good for the following things...

1. Learning about partisan rhetoric, Spin and talking points... and arguing them in the face of logical reality...

2. Learning how to make multiple accounts and using another one once one of them gets banned... or making multiple accounts to make it look like multiple posters are agreeing with you...

3.  Learning how to cut and paste links and text and littering the forum with leaflets of propaganda.... some site their source, some just plagiarize...

4.  Learning how to stalk people by cataloging and recording everything they ever post and all their threads bookmarked so that you can go on a "bump tantrum"  when you have embarrassed yourself again...

You will also notice the "al sharpton" of the forum as he will cry about injustice for every possible petty thing and that try to regulate the whole forum like a wannabe mod, making sure to cry to them about what his upsetting his apple cart...

You will come to know the minority of quality posters from the "Aliases" and "Alias supporters" who blindly side with them...


Covers knows



Sad BUT true...

Also you can forget about actual civil discussions where you intelligently exchange view points. That is only a pipe dream here...
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Posted: 2/26/2012 9:32:43 PM

Less government intrusion into MY personal choices!

 

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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:49:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

rick,

Why are you against an assault weapons ban?

Do you or any citizen need to own assault weapons? 

And you can hold off on the military-taking-us-over excuse, that seems quite soft of a reason to justify the type of weapon you are excusing.

Wall,

I own 3.  

Also, it is not a law that targets Automatic weapons. Automatic weapons are already illegal. 

The assault weapons ban targets the way a weapon looks.  It is completely arbitrary and just another attempt at legislation that cripples the 2nd am.  Assault weapons, is a term that they use to scare people that do not know anything about guns, and frame the debate.  





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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:51:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

President Obama has too much on his plate in the next four years. If he can get control of the House and keep the Senate, his focus will be the economy first, foreign policy second, and a host of other important issues.

 

So the most important thing one can do is vote for a Congress that will work "with" him, and end this stalemate madness. I mean let's give him what he needs, and if it doesn't work out in the next 4 years, throw all of them out.

Gridlock is killing us.


I don't know Barry seemed to be gung ho when illegally using the ATF to frame the 2nd amendment
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:56:20 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

rick,

Why are you against an assault weapons ban?

Do you or any citizen need to own assault weapons? 

And you can hold off on the military-taking-us-over excuse, that seems quite soft of a reason to justify the type of weapon you are excusing.

Does the govt. need to confiscate my personal property that I have a constitutional right to own?  

You have to ask yourself if it is worth it at this point, for the govt to come after our guns,  when there are so many people already so mad,  a recession (borderline depression), and instead of fixing it they are going to take away our rights,  Patriot act extensions, NDAA, Assault weapons ban.  It would be the straw that broke the camel's back.  

I would buy stock in flag draped coffins. 


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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:41:40 PM
it should be whoever approves the online gambling bill since we are community of degens 
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Originally Posted by mainmanmainman2:

it should be whoever approves the online gambling bill since we are community of degens 

 

 

also a good point

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Posted: 2/27/2012 1:47:13 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

President Obama has too much on his plate in the next four years. If he can get control of the House and keep the Senate, his focus will be the economy first, foreign policy second, and a host of other important issues.

 

So the most important thing one can do is vote for a Congress that will work "with" him, and end this stalemate madness. I mean let's give him what he needs, and if it doesn't work out in the next 4 years, throw all of them out.

Gridlock is killing us.


Current odds old man, 

GOP take control of senate -275

GOP retains control of the House -225


if it makes you feel better Barry is still -240. 

Barry better win in a landslide or its gonna be a rough ride for the Ragin Kenyan. 


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Posted: 2/27/2012 2:23:06 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

rick,

Why are you against an assault weapons ban?

Do you or any citizen need to own assault weapons? 

And you can hold off on the military-taking-us-over excuse, that seems quite soft of a reason to justify the type of weapon you are excusing.

The real question is why do you care?  You obviously don't know the first thing about guns. Or else you would know that the whole idea of "assault weapons" is about nothing more than appearance. 

So again, why do you have such a strong opinion about something you clearly don't have the slightest clue about? 

A common trait in the leftist brain, that much is for certain. 

I have a gun in both of my vehicles. I have a few more in my home. One of them being an "assault rifle" as you leftists like to claim. Even though its not automatic and just looks like the boogeyman to your ilk. 

 It took me 5 minutes to renew my C/C permit for 5 years a couple months ago. Why do I have so many? Because I can. Because I want to. Because its a hobby that I enjoy. Shooting that is. Because its something that has permeated my family for generations. Because I don't' want my family or myself to become a victim. Jesus, i could go on, 

So again why do you care Wall? 



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Posted: 2/27/2012 6:25:21 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Coppsguy:

Less government intrusion into MY personal choices!

 



im with you this
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Posted: 2/27/2012 6:27:09 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mainmanmainman2:

it should be whoever approves the online gambling bill since we are community of degens 


kinda related to the other one, but I am with you on this also

it is always interesting to me how certain groups of people are for more rights and freedoms and other groups of people feel that it is the role of the government for the taking away rights and freedoms...
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Posted: 2/27/2012 8:30:35 AM
So again, why do you have such a strong opinion about something you clearly don't have the slightest clue about
 
 
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Thank goodness someone else has said it!
 
You should see all the stuff wallstreet "knows" about the Keystone XL Pipeline!
 
It is just par for the course for the left. Actually, ignorance is a virture for those people.
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So the most important thing one can do is vote for a Congress that will work "with" him, and end this stalemate madness. I mean let's give him what he needs,

In your mind does the government actually solve problems?

Is there any law that the government could pass that you would be opposed to?

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Posted: 2/27/2012 8:33:45 AM

Anyway,

to answer the question, I'm voting for anyone but Obama. It is as simple as that.

I don't care if the Republicans nominate Alfred E. Newman, Newman from Seinfeld, Newt, or a random person from the phone book. Any of them would be better than this clown.

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The real question is why do you care?  You obviously don't know the first thing about guns. Or else you would know that the whole idea of "assault weapons" is about nothing more than appearance. 

So again, why do you have such a strong opinion about something you clearly don't have the slightest clue about? 

A common trait in the leftist brain, that much is for certain. 

I have a gun in both of my vehicles. I have a few more in my home. One of them being an "assault rifle" as you leftists like to claim. Even though its not automatic and just looks like the boogeyman to your ilk. 

 It took me 5 minutes to renew my C/C permit for 5 years a couple months ago. Why do I have so many? Because I can. Because I want to. Because its a hobby that I enjoy. Shooting that is. Because its something that has permeated my family for generations. Because I don't' want my family or myself to become a victim. Jesus, i could go on, 

So again why do you care Wall? 



Yo





 

Do me a favor..When you go on prescription medication, and you will, eventually, if you're not already on something, ( I suspect that you are by your writings ) please get rid of your weapons, for your own safety and the safety of innocent people.

 

The way I see it, most of the murders these days are committed by some looney tune on some form of drug, with a weapon handy. Just open the front page of any newspaper, everyday, and read all about it.

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Posted: 2/27/2012 8:46:17 AM
You do not have to open the newspaper to see the front page. 
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Originally Posted by rick3117:

You do not have to open the newspaper to see the front page. 

 

I meant... open any newspaper website or front page.

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