5 run chase 2013

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Posted: 7/7/2013 2:39:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rp-rt:

Bart_,

    Thanks for the quick reply. Lets see if I've got this right. According to the spreadsheet, On June 29th, Miami became an under .470 play. So you skip the next 2 games and then play the opponent of Miami (Atlanta), no matter who it is. Is that right? are their any other rules I missed?


Yes, we played Atlanta. 
It is a 4 game chase, but we have not had to go to game 4 yet this year (for the gold plays). 

Overall record is 50-0
Game 1 = 31/50
Game 2 = 15/19
Game 3 = 4/4
Game 4 = 0/0
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Posted: 7/7/2013 11:02:11 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Bart_:


Yes, we played Atlanta. 
It is a 4 game chase, but we have not had to go to game 4 yet this year (for the gold plays). 

Overall record is 50-0
Game 1 = 31/50
Game 2 = 15/19
Game 3 = 4/4
Game 4 = 0/0

Bart can you tell me why TOR who won 10-2 on 5/5 skip 2 games and went to a "D" game and also TOR on 5/27 won 9-3 skip 2 games and it went to a "D" game. What am I missing? Its the same scenario as you just explained with ATL. Is the gold a chase at home?  These 2 the chase began on road. Thx in advance for your patience I don't know the rules fully.
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Posted: 7/7/2013 11:57:42 PM
Is there any losses on the road chases? I guess non gold plays this years!
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Posted: 7/8/2013 1:29:22 AM
Ok I'm confused, looked at spread sheet for the plays it doesn't match what I come up with. Just looking at one team TOR should of been play on 5/5 they won 10-2 also 5/12 they won 12-4 there are many many more but if you can explain why those 2 weren't plays maybe I can figure out what I'm doing wrong.  
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Posted: 7/8/2013 1:42:01 AM
I also show a loss with TB on 5/5 They won 8-3 .466% Skip 2 games and they proceed to win the next 6 making it a loss? 
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Posted: 7/8/2013 9:03:01 AM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

I also show a loss with TB on 5/5 They won 8-3 .466% Skip 2 games and they proceed to win the next 6 making it a loss? 

5/11 TB wins 8-7 making SD a runline g2 winner. Rules line 20. I'm not going back any further.

Maybe you can join in our daily chat and help out. We can always use another set of eyes.

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Posted: 7/8/2013 1:30:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cisco:

5/11 TB wins 8-7 making SD a runline g2 winner. Rules line 20. I'm not going back any further.

Maybe you can join in our daily chat and help out. We can always use another set of eyes.


That works for the 5/9 TB game. You missed the one on 5/5 which RL also covered. I think you need more eyes I am back checking now and found a loss on 6/25 LAA They won 14-8 then won 6 straight games by more than 2 runs and no dog of over +150

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Posted: 7/8/2013 1:32:40 PM
Ok, just saw HOU you don't play that fixes that.
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Posted: 7/8/2013 2:23:46 PM
Ok one last question most of everything posted is correct except for a few dates and when the games won but no losses which is what I was looking at. Bart said there was no "D" games though I think I found one that you guys posted as a "B" LAD on 6/19 won 6-0 second game of DH then won 3 in a row by 2 or more before the SF covered run line GM 4. I just want to make sure I'm on same page everything looks good like I said except for a few dates a few "missed plays completely" and few when they won inaccuracies. I will follow from now on see if I'm on same page as you. Oh by the way isnt SF an "A" game today not a"B"? ARI shouldn't be a play at all LAD were at .482 when they won 10-2 at SF. Is this correct or am I screwing up?
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Posted: 7/8/2013 3:01:49 PM
Thanks Bart_. I'm going to do my homework on this system. Between this system and the holy grail, I'm moving to Vegas for next year.
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Posted: 7/8/2013 4:37:26 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

Ok one last question most of everything posted is correct except for a few dates and when the games won but no losses which is what I was looking at. Bart said there was no "D" games though I think I found one that you guys posted as a "B" LAD on 6/19 won 6-0 second game of DH then won 3 in a row by 2 or more before the SF covered run line GM 4. I just want to make sure I'm on same page everything looks good like I said except for a few dates a few "missed plays completely" and few when they won inaccuracies. I will follow from now on see if I'm on same page as you. Oh by the way isnt SF an "A" game today not a"B"? ARI shouldn't be a play at all LAD were at .482 when they won 10-2 at SF. Is this correct or am I screwing up?

Dodgers 6-0 6/19 skip next two games. Rules line 7.

Mets 9/1 skip 2. 7/5 g1 12-5 skip 2. 7/8 g2

Dodgers I see .469 on 6/30. If it was.482 the Dodgers would be in the blue All Games section.

 

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Posted: 7/8/2013 4:44:18 PM

6/25 LAA They won 14-8 then won 6 straight games by more than 2 runs and no dog of over +150

6/28 LAA.  We don't play against Houston. 6/29 7-2 skip 2 gms. 7-3 back up one gm st louis is on a gm 2.

7/4 win gm 1 6-5

7/5 Lost to Boston 6-2. gm 2

 

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Posted: 7/8/2013 6:43:13 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cisco:

Dodgers 6-0 6/19 skip next two games. Rules line 7.

Mets 9/1 skip 2. 7/5 g1 12-5 skip 2. 7/8 g2

Dodgers I see .469 on 6/30. If it was.482 the Dodgers would be in the blue All Games section.

 


Cisco, Dodgers win 6-0 on 6/30 skip the 2 games against San DIego on 6/20 & 6/21

(A) game dodgers won 6-1 on 6/22 against SD
(B) game Dodgers won 3-1 on 6/23 against SD
(C) game Dodgers won  3-1 on 6/24 against SF
(D) game Dodgers won 6-5 on 6/25 against SF correct? WINNER!  
If so not a (B) game win!


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Posted: 7/8/2013 7:16:18 PM

6/19 6-0 enter the chase. Skip 2 gms

Skip 6/20 & 6/21

6/22 gm1 6-1 Skip 2 gms. Rules Line7. Did you read the rules?

Skip 6/23 & 6/24

Dodgers win 6-5. San Diego a runline winner gm 2.

 

 

 

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Posted: 7/8/2013 7:31:07 PM
6/25 Dodgers win 6-5. San Diego a runline winner gm 2.

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Posted: 7/8/2013 7:43:37 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cisco:

6/19 6-0 enter the chase. Skip 2 gms

Skip 6/20 & 6/21

6/22 gm1 6-1 Skip 2 gms. Rules Line7. Did you read the rules?

Skip 6/23 & 6/24

Dodgers win 6-5. San Diego a runline winner gm 2.

 

 

 


Yes I did read them ,what you are doing is modifying them. They say if the team wins by 5+ runs in the 2 games being skipped restart, they do not say if the team wins by 5+ in the middle of a chase to start over again which is what you did. If that is the rule you might want to write it to say so. The rules do not read that way.

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Posted: 7/8/2013 8:17:55 PM

Been like this for years.

-The team that we are betting AGAINST must win by 5 or more runs. Entering the “chase.”

We then wait two games after entering the chase. *If the team scores 5+ runs in one of these two games we must wait another two games until a wager is placed.

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Posted: 7/8/2013 11:13:09 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cisco:

Been like this for years.

-The team that we are betting AGAINST must win by 5 or more runs. Entering the “chase.”

We then wait two games after entering the chase. *If the team scores 5+ runs in one of these two games we must wait another two games until a wager is placed.


Cisco, this is my first year of REALLY betting mlb...blah, blah, blah.  Your system seemed more complicated than the rest, so I'm late to the show, so to speak.  I know I might have questions later, as i'm rereading this thread and the cloud over and over, but this question has to deal with the 5 run rule.

Team A scores 5+ runs over Team B to start a chase (however it's done is not the question), we skip 2 games...if one of those 2 games is another 5+ runs, skip 2 more games.  My question is this:  
Game 1) 5+ runs to start chase, Games 2&3) skip, Game 4) A PLAY!!!  From the post I quoted, it seems we are fading Team A....what if Team A won game 4 (a loss on the system) by 5+ runs.  Would we play on game 5 or skip 2 more games?

I don't fully understand your system yet, but since I saw you and jeff going back and forth about the 5 run rule, this popped into my head.
Thanx for the patience.
Also, is there any other threads that have info about your system, other than this, or links to them?
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Posted: 7/9/2013 6:57:25 AM

Buckeye- It's not complicated at all. Follow along here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkIdkXC0UBUbdHZqSERQZ1FRRWVmVHUtN0M1cWpGRHc#gid=9

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Posted: 7/9/2013 9:47:53 AM
Dodgers won by 5, so by the system we need to skip two games then continue the chase.  But I notice you guys go out of the system and continue the chase with Arizona.  If Arizona wins today, it CAN'T be count as a system win.  Sorry Cisco, but in order to count as a system win you need to stick with the system rules.  You can't just go in and pick and choose your plays and count it as a system win. 
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Posted: 7/9/2013 9:49:28 AM
Dodgers won by 5, so by the system we need to skip two games then continue the chase.  But I notice you guys go out of the system and continue the chase with Arizona.  If Arizona wins today, it CAN'T be count as a system win.  Sorry Cisco, but in order to count as a system win you need to stick with the system rules.  You can't just go in and pick and choose your plays and count it as a system win. 
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Posted: 7/9/2013 1:19:15 PM
It's my show. I occasionaly move plays.
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Posted: 7/9/2013 1:20:06 PM
I moved Tampa Bay too.
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Posted: 7/9/2013 4:28:26 PM
Call it strategy or whatever.
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Posted: 7/9/2013 5:21:55 PM
read the chat section on the spreadsheet. 
Read Rules lines 18 and 42. 
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