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Posted: 1/8/2014 7:39:51 PM

winds gusting at 20 - 25 mph. on Saturday..

may have to go with my initial gut again and pick the Seahawks.. they win this by 10 pts or more and get away with murder. you know the officiating crew will be in on Seattle. rain +wind + crowd noise +12th man + corrupt officiating(remember Green Bay?) + historic road woes = bad spot for Saints, and i will have to hear Richard Sherman go mouthing off on how they are the best team in the NFL.. someone will eventually put this team in their place...just not the Saints, but wouldn't it be nice..

 

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Posted: 1/8/2014 9:47:25 PM
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Posted: 1/8/2014 11:43:04 PM
I believe one aspect of this game remains the same, physicality.  Seattle dominated last game, they controlled both lines and looked faster in all aspects.  Saints will have to out think Hawks.  And I'm not sure that will overcome this blaring deficit.  Hoping for a Seattle win with a Saints cover for the middle on a 10-1 Seahawks Super Bowl victory, but a bit skeptical here.  
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Posted: 1/9/2014 1:37:54 AM
If you are a running team, but can't run you don't have a chance. If you are a passing team and have Bree as QB, things can happen. It's not always the team that you think is the best that wins.

I picked Auburn +10.5 and the under 68. I'am taking NO +8.0. In this world of PI's, Bree will throw 60-70 times to win. Bree throws deep early and won't fall behind more than a score.

NO +8.0
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Posted: 1/9/2014 2:13:53 PM
I think Russell Wilson's ability to run out of the pocket will be the difference in this game.  Take the Seahawks.
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Posted: 1/9/2014 5:11:58 PM
If the weather is gonna be as nasty as they say its going to be the under is the play
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Posted: 1/9/2014 10:35:29 PM
Rain will impact a game.   Additional slips, you can't cut and move as well, guys slip out of your grip when trying to bring them down, players are changing cleats, wet skin dehydrates the body 25% faster which will cause cramping, etc, etc.  Factoring in rain into the overall picture of the outcome of a contest can often be misleading.  The reason is unpredictability.  You know guys are gonna drop passes and balls will slip out or pop out at random.  Depending on where these additional turnovers occur dictates the score.  Are we looking at midfield turnovers or near end zone turnovers.  That's the key factor.  You never really know.   So the final score could be a toss up.  A low scoring or high scoring game are equally probable in a rainy scenario.
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Posted: 1/9/2014 10:40:43 PM
fuk that I go with seahawks this game I don't know under or over but I think hawks win this game for sure .....
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Posted: 1/9/2014 10:57:24 PM
Hawks win but not cover!
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Posted: 1/10/2014 12:12:26 AM
30 to 35 mph winds and heavy downpour winds equals UNDER
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Posted: 1/10/2014 2:27:44 AM
I would not be surprised if NO wins this game.  I was watching the coverage of the NO/PHI game on TURNING POINT heard Peyton say that when they started to get a push in the running game in the 2nd half that opened up the downfield passing game.  It was like he finally realized that you have to keep pounding the running game to open up the passing game.  Run the ball throw screen passes and take shots downfield is the winning formula.  I think that NO will follow this formula and shorten the game and have success vs SEA.  SEA is not that good.  SEA lost to ARI and almost lost to TB.  NO +8 and UNDER
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Posted: 1/10/2014 7:08:03 AM
Okay... I rarely post... but after going 4-0 ats last week, I'm posting my 2 pennies.   So I'm taking the live-enough dog in this one, got the Saints with the points... win or lose.   My rationale:

1)   I have to believe Payton, Brees, and co. won't go to Seattle a 2nd time in as many weeks to perform poorly... the 2nd time could be a charm.  The tape has been watched and is worn, lessons have been learned,  I will bet the car that a new schematic game plan is in place for the Saints... they're chomping at the bit to get this party going.

2)   If a lesser Arizona team could do it to the Seahawks on their turf in Week 16, not sure why the Saints couldn't at least make a game of this?  They have the momentum heading in.

3)  If the Saints or Chargers win this weekend, they keep an interesting trend alive.  In each of the last six postseasons, an underdog of more than a touchdown has won outright in the divisional-playoff round.  In fact, favorites of more than a touchdown are just 6-7 overall in this span.  Something to keep in mind this weekend?  

4)    It is in no way Payton's nor Brees' first go at the playoffs, they're 'super bowl conditioned' accordingly to deal with the pending pressure of a divisional playoff game out West.  Yes, the home-field advantage is almost overwhelming.   But you just had to know that Saints would inevitably win a road playoff game like they did last week as certain trends (road losses) are meant to be broken.   Last week, public perception helped have the wrong team favored, Saints win outright as I knew they would.... not saying they will do so with certainty Sat. but I might pull the trigger for the hell of it.

5)   Sean Payton, is quite the offensive mind - a calculated strategist, one who has won a Super Bowl already.  His psychological approach to winning (especially how he prepares his team) is comparable to none - in my mind.   His team will be ready for the task.

6)   Injuries?  The Saints have them, and like any other high-caliber team in the playoffs, next man up mentality here.  CB Lewis expects to play, so a big relief for the Saints' and their secondary representation in this one.

7)  I would not be surprised if the football gods intend to have the Saints and Niners hookup for an NFC Conf. Championship rematch... almost as if such a script would be NFL-perfect?   Just sayin...

8)   Heard that the  officiating crew will keep an extra set of eyes on this one, so any prior borderline dirty plays will be called - disadvantage for Seahawks DBs who have gotten away with it... the NFL wants a clean game in this one, with many millions expected to tune in.

9)   The Saints defense is helping make this Saints team a viable contender, period.   No disputing this.
Judging from Ryan's midweek presser:  he's been up all week drafting a better game plan for Wilson and the Seahawks... he's absolutely ready for a 2nd go at it.

10)  If the Saints institute a run game like last week, tempo/clock will be controlled.   Sure, the Seahawks defense will create some matchup nightmares for the Saints up front, but the Saints could potentially slow down that pass rush with a "gritty" running game that amassed 185 yards last week led by Mark Ingram.   Of course, a different D to face in Seattle, but worth noting nonetheless?

11)   This is the playoffs. 2nd season.  Past performance and prior score/matchups should not influence "perceived" future outcomes, especially when it comes to hardcore playoff football! Entirely different stage, especially from a psychological point of view.

12)   Aside from the Saints defense and storied offense, one just has to look at the potential X factor from last week for the Saints... a brilliant (bold & ballsy move) acquisition in kicker Shane Graham because this game could very well come down to a 3pt boot... in the end.

13)   Weather theories are over-rated to me.  The Saints have played in the elements several times before, especially Brees.... and last week's bitter cold in Philly was no exception... Saints handled it fine.

If turnovers play no factor in this one - then I do like the Saints to keep things close and maybe pull it off. Like the Over and the Saints in an ATS win, win or lose.   Seattle 27, New Orleans 24.  Good luck.
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Posted: 1/10/2014 7:10:03 AM
SEA 27-13 

SEA COVERS AND THE UNDER
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Posted: 1/10/2014 8:29:24 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by AmazingMoves:

I think Russell Wilson's ability to run out of the pocket will be the difference in this game.  Take the Seahawks.

Yeah i agree, i think he'll be giving the Saints D fits all day much like Kap did last week to GB.

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Posted: 1/10/2014 9:01:33 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cocky24:

If the weather is gonna be as nasty as they say its going to be the under is the play

I concur!! If there really is going to be 30 mph winds, it obviously impacts the Saints. However, I wouldn't underestimate their running game or short passing game. Sean Payton is a heck of a coach, and if anyone is capable of making the right adjustments, it's him. 
But I have one cardinal rule that I try to avoid, and that's betting against Seattle in Seattle.  
I don't normally take totals, but I can endorse this UNDER as a strong play. 30 mph winds can wreak havoc on a passing game, so I think you will see some small ball, and lots of hand-offs & short passes. The Saints will not want to get embarassed like they did on MNF earlier this year, so turnover-free football and field possession will take precedence to taking shots down-field...at least that's what I think.

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Posted: 1/10/2014 9:41:23 AM
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Originally Posted by searider72:

I would not be surprised if NO wins this game.  I was watching the coverage of the NO/PHI game on TURNING POINT heard Peyton say that when they started to get a push in the running game in the 2nd half that opened up the downfield passing game.  It was like he finally realized that you have to keep pounding the running game to open up the passing game.  Run the ball throw screen passes and take shots downfield is the winning formula.  I think that NO will follow this formula and shorten the game and have success vs SEA.  SEA is not that good.  SEA lost to ARI and almost lost to TB.  NO +8 and UNDER

Yeah, but all of that was against one of the crappiest "D"s in the entire NFL - under pristine weather conditions - rookie coach/rookie QB - and Drew Brees and Co. were able to hear themselves.

{There is a 98 percent chance of rain throughout the Seattle Seahawks' home game against the New Orleans Saints. Winds could be up around 20 mph, according to Weather Underground.}

Full article here:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000311207/article/rain-expected-in-seattle-new-england-on-saturday

I believe this is the hardest game to cap this week. Not necessarily the win/lose (I think Seahawks win outright), but the 8 points is what's got me thinking. Do the Seahawks jump on it early, or is this a hard-scrapple game that comes down to the wire?

You know what? F-it. Going with the statistics and not overthinking it. Seahawks -8

Good Luck All!!!

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Posted: 1/10/2014 11:57:04 AM
NO has watched the tape and learned the whoop A$$ last match up. This time around is a . It will be a close game. NO QB and co. is fully aware of how the SEA Off would like to do to them again. I'm sure it just NOT the same as last game. 

NO. will cover and if SEA lack of awareness then NO will beat SEATTLE in SEATTLE for the record as we all know Saints has been making a lot history this season...

Go NO....kill the Hawks.....
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Posted: 1/10/2014 1:01:30 PM

In my opinion, the only team that will beat Seattle in Seattle is that with a great defense.

 

zona had a great defense. Saints do not.

 

Seahawks have a great defense, great corners and safeties to matchup with graham and wideouts.

in this type of game, sproles will be a nonfactor and when he does get the ball will get smashed....

 

saints play finesse gymnasium football.... Not outdoor smash mouth football.

 

hawks in a route

 

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Posted: 1/10/2014 1:14:52 PM
Appears the SHARP side is Seattle in this matchup, especially the way the hawks ball at home.

But I'm thinking this might be a gift from Vegas, I mean really I can take 8 Pts with a veteran HOF player? 

Now for my point, and take it for what it is worth, but I feel that the league office SCREWED the saints organization last year with Payton being suspended an entire season. I mean come on this was a league wide problem, and Sean Payton and the saints were the scape goats. The NFL was facing major lawsuits from their former players, and the saints took the fall for the league. Time for justice.

Not to mention Seattle is a team of dopers and steroid users, and they are the dirty team. Pete Carroll doped up the USC program when he was there and did it again in Seattle. Just look at their players folks, they are huge. I know the entire league is using, but these guys are the worst of the worst cheaters, and  tomorrow justice prevails.


I know lots of speculation here, but take it for what you want, just my insight....

Gimme the wise veteran Brees over the more athletic kid Wilson. Funny scouts said both of these guys were too short to play in the league, wonder how many times the commentators will repeat that one tomorrow.

I'd bet tonight on NO, because this is one of the lines that might disappear overnight, especially is us sharps start to agree with the public....but as always I'll be watching the line closely over the next 24 hours, to me it's more exciting than the game.

Extra point: Brees has the highest completion percentage ever in the playoffs

And in my speculation the saints went vanilla in that first game and learned a heck of a lot more about Seattle than Seattle learned on them. 

Time to get back to work degenerates #BOL
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Posted: 1/10/2014 1:40:13 PM
Colin Cowherd picking Saints, Patriots, 49ers, and Chargers... completely opposite of all my picks. might get two right but his picks have been lousy this season  29-44-3

This game is still tough to cap because of the weather.. 
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Posted: 1/10/2014 2:27:24 PM
The saints were supposed to beat Philly regardless of where they played Philly was overrated rookie head coach rookie qb out of a terrible division barely beat out Dallas and there defense speaks for itself Seattle is a different kind of animal they beat the saints Pete carrols first year when they first got marshon with a washed up Matt hassleback and a defense that doesn't come close to what they are today on top of that the saints were defending Super Bowl champs at the time no way saints win this game or cover Seattle in a double digit victory all day

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Posted: 1/10/2014 2:31:57 PM
Never mind the debacle from earlier this season only way saints would have a chance would be in the super dome even then Seattle would prevail
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Posted: 1/10/2014 2:35:30 PM
Yeah Seattle lost to cardinals but that's a division rival and a team that should've been in the playoffs with a better defense than the saints they can match up with Seattle just as every other team in their division because all 4 teams play smash mouth football
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Posted: 1/10/2014 2:40:50 PM
Saints running game will be non factor in Seattle they had a
185 yards against the eagles terrible defense that the Vikings put up 40 something points against y'all must be out your damn rabbits if u think even have a chance to come close to even sniffing the century mark I'm just sayin

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Posted: 1/10/2014 2:49:47 PM
While the Saints finally pulled off a road win in the playoffs last week against my Birds, I still wasn't overly impressed and I think people are being to quick to throw out the Saint's road woes.  The Eagles last ranked pass defense was able to hold Brees/Saints to 6 points and forced 2 INTs in the 1st half last week...they went into the half with a 1 pt lead, missed opportunity to take control of the game in the opening half.

I think the Seahawks are able to jump out and take control of this game early.  It won't snowball and get out of hand like the last time they played, but I like Seattle to win by 10-14.  Main reason is that Seattle won't have to scheme like the Eagles did to try to shutdown/slowdown Brees and the passing attack, which is what opened up the running game for the Saints last week.  The Seattle corners > New Orleans WRs and Chancellor/Thomas is the best safety tandem in league...should be able to hold Graham in check again.

Overall, Seattle is better at every position on the field except QB and TE.  I'm going with the team with the better defense and running game at home (especially considering it might be sloppy weather).  Only thing that makes me nervous is that it seems too easy to just say..."oh Seattle in a blow again".

Seattle -8, small
Really like a Seattle -1, Carolina +7 teaser 

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