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Posted: 9/29/2013 8:36:09 AM

Away:  Carolina [1-2 ATS]
Home:  Arizona [3-1 ATS]

Game Time: 4:05 PM
Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

Recent Meetings:
N/A

Team Leaders:

Carolina:
Passing: Cam Newton (577)
Rushing: DeAngelo Williams (291)
Receiving: Greg Olsen (194)

Arizona:
Passing: Carson Palmer (1010)
Rushing: Rashard Mendenhall (176)
Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (245)

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Posted: 10/1/2013 1:53:12 AM
Arizona flying back home to face the terrible Panthers. Palmer should have a huge game. Arizona wins at home.
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Posted: 10/1/2013 5:21:00 PM

Stick Kenjon Barner in there to run Carolina!!!!!! What the hell did you draft him for?!?!?!?!? Get that horse going!!!!!!!!

Even so, I'm still on the Panthers in the Pick 'em for this one - - - Carson's due for a SNAFU, it's the Cardinals, it's Carson Palmer, draw your own conclusions............ AZ the home dogs - you figure it out................

Good Luck All!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 10/1/2013 9:27:25 PM
watch out panthers strike.
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Posted: 10/3/2013 9:37:40 AM
the panthers being a road favorite against a team other than jacksonville throws up some red flags. i don't like arizona, but would pick them to win if held at gunpoint. luckily that's not the case, staying away.
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Posted: 10/4/2013 7:40:57 PM
The Panthers  should be able to impose their will on AZ,  AZ  not executing.   I have Carolina blowing them out.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 12:32:45 AM
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Posted: 10/5/2013 11:21:00 AM

People are over-looking carolina, they WILL cover here...I HATE betting against home dogs but here I am. Cam Newton is on a mission...Public thinks hes just a spoiled Diva, (which I somewhat agree) But hes a solid big young QB. Panthers can controlthe clock...

I thought highly of arizona but they are simply over rated..CAM makes a statement this game. GLTA

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Posted: 10/5/2013 11:38:42 AM

Arizona -1 , at home - panthers have a long flight to AZ.

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Posted: 10/5/2013 1:22:04 PM
That win or trouncing of the G-Men at home is in the rear view mirror and Newton needs to make sure he knows that and do what he hasn't done as the touted starter/franchise for the Panthers...come back with another win even if it is on the road against an inferior opponent like Ari. A loss here will and should send messages from the front office......CAR on the M/L
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Posted: 10/6/2013 7:15:21 AM

Carolina ML

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Posted: 10/6/2013 9:40:08 AM
Carolina is 8-2 SU against AZ in the last 10 meetings. Carolina is 2 last minute plays away from being 3-0. Newton has a much better QB rating than Palmer. I see Carolina squeaking by in the last minutes 
and hopefully covering the -2.5. 
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Posted: 10/6/2013 10:51:37 AM
Arizona Cardinals +3  
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Posted: 10/6/2013 10:58:47 AM
CAROLINA -2.5 TO THE HOUSE!!!! HAND SHAKE!
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Posted: 10/6/2013 3:16:37 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Colfax-Mingo:

Carolina is 8-2 SU against AZ in the last 10 meetings. Carolina is 2 last minute plays away from being 3-0. Newton has a much better QB rating than Palmer. I see Carolina squeaking by in the last minutes 
and hopefully covering the -2.5. 


I am not picking on you specifically, your post just happened to press one of my buttons.   Seeing a stat like this, what POSSIBLE worth could it have?

First of all, they are 2-2 ATS against each other the past 4 appearances.    So that "8-2 ATS" stat basically means that Caro won 6 in a row BEFORE that.   From 2002 to 2008.   How can those games possibly have any relevance on today's game?   The most recent of those games was in 2008... both teams had different caoches then thant hey do now, different QBs, and about 50 of the 53 players on each team's roster was different.   What is the point of even including that stat?   How can what happeend in games between 2002 and 2008 with about 95% different players, different coaches, have any relevance to who might win today?   I'll bet all but 2 or 3 guys from the 2002 game have retired.

In college, where a program takes on a certain personality based on their head coach, you might find some relevance in handicapping a game by looking at 10 year trends... Bob Stoops, Frank Beamer, etc., do things the same way now that they were 10 years ago.   Alabama always gets five-star recruits so there is a certain consistency in their talent level.   But things change so much in the NFL, that I don't think those kind of longterm trends mean squat.   Technical trends (teams coming off a Monday night loss and travelling, teams playing the 3rd of 3 straight road games, teams coming off a home loss and being an underdog toa divisional opponent) -- maybe.   Trends with teams that have had extremely stable coaching stiautions and players (Patriots, Steelers, etc) -- maybe.

But two teams that have gone through tremendous ups and downs, been to Super Bowls in thelast decade then been to the bottom -- what they have done over a 10 year period isn't a trend, it's a random collection of events that to me has zero value in predicting what happens today.

That being said... I do like the Panthers to win today.   Don't think I"m going to lay any money on it.   Just had to get that pet peeve off my chest.
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Posted: 10/6/2013 6:49:20 PM
 FIXED GAME, NO DOUBT.
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Posted: 10/6/2013 6:57:42 PM
CAM GET BONUS CHECK FROM VEGAS TOMORROW.
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Posted: 10/6/2013 7:51:19 PM
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Arizona Cardinals +3  

Congrats to the Arizona Cardinals backers

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