Houston at New England (12/10/2012)

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Posted: 12/7/2012 6:10:36 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

I will take the Patriots at home laying 3 to any team in the NFL, even against the 11-1 Texans. The one loss the Texans suffered all year was against the Green Bay Packers. They probably should have lost to the Lions as well. They also once let Chad Henne go absolutely nuts on them about a month ago. The Texans achilles heel is their pass defense (ranking 19th in the league). If JJ Swat isn't batting them down, the odds are that pass is getting completed. I think you can attribute this to Jonathan Joseph being out for such a big chunk of the year. He is listed as questionable, but I'm not sure if he will be a 100% either way. 

The Texans are an impressive 6-0 on the road this year. Its so tough to win on the road in this league, especially at New England. The Pats haven't lost at home since that fluke game against Arizona in week 2. I think Belicheck will have his defense ready to stop the Texans offense that relies primarily on the playaction. The playaction is really only effective when a team is running the ball well. I think the Pat's 9th ranked rush defense will come to play in a Monday night setting, and that Houston might find themselves in 3rd and long situations quite a bit on Monday night.  

My prediction is the Patriots hand the Texans their first road loss, and that Belicheck tries to send a message like he did to the Colts earlier this year. He definitely likes big statement wins over teams that he will possibly see again in the playoffs. Obviously, I don't think this will be a huge blowout. But it wouldn't shock me if the Pats won this by 13 or more points.    

Not too often you can get the Pats -3 at home without the public being all over them!! I will be more than happy to bet New England for my first time this season. 

Good luck!
Sammy, When were you ever "more than happy" to lose your money? You stuck your foot in your mouth with the "not too often" statement. What you say is very true. Listen to yourself....why is it happening now? The public is all over Houston I presume because the line has come in from +4.5 to +3.........my belief is that the smart folks grabbed the +4.5. I'm playing Houston and the ML...... BOL
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Posted: 12/7/2012 6:29:20 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by betipickem:

Houston a very good team, but patriots a better team right now. Greenbay shredded the texans secondary with no greg jennings. Brady i think the best ever at his positon with shredd the texans and lets remember the patriots are good against the run and there secondary is showing up. This is a prime time game monday night in which that favors the patriots and brady. The spread should of been -7 but i can see it being 4 with no gronk. Texans betters dont bite the apple, Brady gonna show why the patriots are still the best team in football.\

Patriots -34

texans- 17

For this reason alone........I'm betting the Pats.  Great angle.......I guess Mondays are a preferred day of the week for the Pats? I suppose Houston is due for a letdaown because of it. Please advise  "Brady gonna show why they are still the best team in football"??? Are you sure about that? Do you remember last years Super Bowl? Perhaps the Superbowl they played in when they were the best team in football........ undefeated..........rings a bell. Go ahead and bet the Pats. It will be Monday night and they will be the best.
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Posted: 12/7/2012 8:11:50 PM
NO GRONK, NO EDDLEMAN.  VS A SOLID DEFENSE.  HOUSTON IS A CLOCK CONTROL TEAM.  UNDER MIGHT BE THE PLAY HERE.
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Posted: 12/8/2012 3:13:25 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by best_bets:

Sammy, When were you ever "more than happy" to lose your money? You stuck your foot in your mouth with the "not too often" statement. What you say is very true. Listen to yourself....why is it happening now? The public is all over Houston I presume because the line has come in from +4.5 to +3.........my belief is that the smart folks grabbed the +4.5. I'm playing Houston and the ML...... BOL



You should stick to riding the broncos, who are looking awesome by the way. I could tell by how adamantly you are defending the texans that you have some type of emotional attachment to this game. Is it because the texans beat your broncos earlier in the year? That was like week 3 bro. A lot has changed since then. You just made me more convinced that the Pats are the play. Don't get me wrong, if the texans see them again at reliant stadium, I think they might find a way to win. But betting against Brady and Belicheck at Gillette Stadium with such a small number is just not the type of position I would like to put myself in. How many NFL teams have gone 7-0 on the road in a single season? I would like Vue to look that up with his database. Aside from the 1972 Dolphins team, I imagine not too many teams went undefeated on the road in a single season. I think houston is a solid team....but not one of the great teams of our generation. i think most people would agree with me on that.  the texans might find a way to win, but either way, its a pretty stupid bet.  no offense bro. 
And my foot is not in my mouth. I think you're betting on a long shot buddy. Good luck.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:46:47 AM
didn't mean to be so defensive, but the last nfl team to go undefeated on the road were the 07 patriots. prior to them, the last team to go undefeated on the road were the 1984 49ers led by joe montana. a lot of good football teams eventually lose their 1st road game.  

the texans are a really solid team, but i think new england could expose their 19th ranked pass defense and give the texans their first road loss.

maybe im fade material. and good luck best_bets. didn't mean to call your bet stupid. i just think the law of averages says the texans are due to drop a road game, and who better to hand them the loss, then the 9-3 patriots who haven't lost at home since week 2. 
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Posted: 12/8/2012 12:59:35 PM
Just started considering this game and it's NE all the way... They should kick the Texans behind in this game...
Houston has been doing just enough lately (Vs. Jax ) to get by and are overdue for an egg

Houston is a foolish bet here IMHO...




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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:27:57 AM
Pats and ov for the large
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Posted: 12/9/2012 2:58:49 AM
NE -3.5 (.5u) - SCORE: Texans 24 - Patriots 33
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Posted: 12/9/2012 4:01:29 AM
It is my opinion that the Texans are the most under rated team in football. They have proven to be winners week in and week out.....they have found a way to win. Their D is better than that of New Englands in my opinion. Shaub has similar numbers to Brady. If there was ever a time for a New England loss at home this is it. Gronk is out. If I am betting on a long shot.....I'll take my chances because in 12 tries my horse (the Texans) has won 11 times............and I'm a long shot?
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Posted: 12/9/2012 4:07:45 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:




You should stick to riding the broncos, who are looking awesome by the way. I could tell by how adamantly you are defending the texans that you have some type of emotional attachment to this game. Is it because the texans beat your broncos earlier in the year? That was like week 3 bro. A lot has changed since then. You just made me more convinced that the Pats are the play. Don't get me wrong, if the texans see them again at reliant stadium, I think they might find a way to win. But betting against Brady and Belicheck at Gillette Stadium with such a small number is just not the type of position I would like to put myself in. How many NFL teams have gone 7-0 on the road in a single season? I would like Vue to look that up with his database. Aside from the 1972 Dolphins team, I imagine not too many teams went undefeated on the road in a single season. I think houston is a solid team....but not one of the great teams of our generation. i think most people would agree with me on that.  the texans might find a way to win, but either way, its a pretty stupid bet.  no offense bro. 
And my foot is not in my mouth. I think you're betting on a long shot buddy. Good luck.

There must be some mighty stupid people out there that brought this line in from Pats -4.5 to -3......mighty stupid
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Posted: 12/9/2012 4:10:25 AM
I only wish the Gronk were playing in this one.......the score might be closer. Texans for the VERY LARGE
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Posted: 12/9/2012 4:45:05 AM
It is not how much dog is in the fight. It is how much fight is in the dog.  Texans are a dog in this one. I think they come out fighting
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Posted: 12/9/2012 5:27:28 AM

On with Sammy - NE wins here sb a great game on Monday night.

 

BOL!!!

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Posted: 12/9/2012 6:12:09 AM
Talk about clash of the titans. This game will break a record for the most combined wins on mnf after week 12. Pats are now 42-5 in the month of December since 01. Texans 15-1 last 16 games when Schaub is under center. Pats win and they've got a shot at the number one seed. Texans win and the top seed is all but a lock. Regardless if Texans win this one they'll get the top seed as I don't see them losing the next 3. Pats have more to play for at this point. Texans new kid on the block have more to play for themselves/all the haters! 

Texans getting healthy for this one is key! Joseph,Caldwell,and Newton,G. Graham all practiced this week. Having Jonathon back is huge! Newton still a question mark,but the rest will play! Key to this game will be tempo and big plays/hard hits. Phillips will mix in enough blitz to keep Brady on his back here and there. See Manning and Quin stepping up big time in this one! Kareem should be on Welker with plenty of help if he decides to stretch the field. If Texans score 1st Pats are in for a dog fight. This team is scard of no one. They'll miss McCain and Reed. Texans front 7 is still far superior to me. See Dobbins and Merceles laying some hard hits in this one. Biggest key to this game is completing those 3rd and shorts. Think Schaub and the offense score 24 minimum imo quick breakdown....

Quarterback...Pats
Runningbacks...Texans
Offensive line....Texans
Front 7...Texans 
Secondary...Texans 
Overall defense...Texans 
Best Receicer on field...Texans 
Special teams...Pats
Experience...Pats 
Coaching...Pats 

Xfactor is Tate IMO 

31-27 Texans 
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Posted: 12/9/2012 10:09:51 AM
More food for thought. Pats have 3 losses this year Cardinals,Ravens,and Seahawks. What do all those teams have in common? That's right,they've all got a good front 7. Except none of those teams posses the Texans offense. You pressure Brady and he can be beat
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:17:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

didn't mean to be so defensive, but the last nfl team to go undefeated on the road were the 07 patriots. prior to them, the last team to go undefeated on the road were the 1984 49ers led by joe montana. a lot of good football teams eventually lose their 1st road game. 


Correcto-mundo Ace. Interestingly enough the G-Men went 7-1 on the road that year to secure the WildCard berth, and then went on to win all their Playoff games on the road to finally defeat the Pats at the Big Dance.

Hell, the Gints had to win those games on the road because at home they were a pathetic 3-5 ... pfftt!

(Colts & Cowpokes were also 7-1 on the road that year)

Pats by a FG, per usual.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:28:32 PM
Houston Texans +3.5 2X LARGE

Houston Texans ML +165 LARGE


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Posted: 12/9/2012 8:48:00 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by RaiderHawk:



Correcto-mundo Ace. Interestingly enough the G-Men went 7-1 on the road that year to secure the WildCard berth, and then went on to win all their Playoff games on the road to finally defeat the Pats at the Big Dance.

Hell, the Gints had to win those games on the road because at home they were a pathetic 3-5 ... pfftt!

(Colts & Cowpokes were also 7-1 on the road that year)

Pats by a FG, per usual.
Yes, but that Giant team didn't go undefeated on the road. Neither did the 15-1 Packers team from last year. There's only 3 teams in NFL history that went undefeated on the road (in the regular season) to my understanding. The 72 dolphins, 84 49ers, and 07 patriots. Obviously, the texans could win this one and lose at Indy in week 17. I'm just speculating that their first loss will come to the pats, who haven't lost at home since week 2. Good luck!
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Posted: 12/9/2012 10:17:41 PM
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Posted: 12/9/2012 11:01:11 PM

Everyone say what you want, but this is nighttime, in December, 40 degrees and rainy, in Foxborough, a southern cushy weather team, against the hoodie, and against "Tommy Terrific", Houston's already in - and probably have the first round bye wrapped up too.....

I'm just seeing a cold weather beatdown for some reason.

Pats -4, and I don't even think twice about it

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Posted: 12/10/2012 12:29:11 AM
TEXANS PLAY IN WORST DIVISION IN FOOTBALL, IM STILL LOOKING FOR A "SIGNATURE WIN" FROM THEM....UNTIL THEN THEY WILL BE FADED. BRADY FOR LARGE
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Posted: 12/10/2012 12:32:40 AM
OK MAYBE 2ND WORST AFC WEST IS PUKE
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Posted: 12/10/2012 12:52:44 AM
maybe later in the later pats but houston wins or most certianly covers biggest task for the patriots yet .
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Posted: 12/10/2012 12:53:24 AM
and there playing the 49ers next sunday they must feel real good about tht 
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Posted: 12/10/2012 1:06:57 AM
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