Oakland at Kansas City (10/28/2012)

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Posted: 10/23/2012 12:27:41 AM

Away:  Oakland [2-4 ATS]
Home:  Kansas City [2-4 ATS]

Game Time: 4:05 PM
Stadium: Arrowhead Stadium

Recent Meetings:
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Team Leaders:

Oakland:
Passing: Carson Palmer (1732)
Rushing: Darren McFadden (324)
Receiving: Brandon Myers (334)

Kansas City:
Passing: Matt Cassel (1150)
Rushing: Jamaal Charles (591)
Receiving: Dwayne Bowe (427)

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Posted: 10/23/2012 3:48:09 AM
Brady Quinn starting @ QB this week!!!
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Posted: 10/23/2012 4:37:39 AM

Kansas City

YTD: 32-25-1 (56.1%)

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Posted: 10/23/2012 3:09:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ATLiens007:

Brady Quinn starting @ QB this week!!!

do you think this is good or bad for the raiders... imo good, brady quinn got cut by the browns now he is gonna revitalize the chiefs... not buying it. also he sucked at Texas.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 3:50:13 PM
Texas? 
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Posted: 10/24/2012 2:21:23 PM

Oakland...

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Posted: 10/24/2012 10:01:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by shochuman:

Kansas City

YTD: 32-25-1 (56.1%)


I think it's great that you're posting this relevant info.  I am impressed by the success you might obviously be having and that other players attest to that success. I  thought you might be interested to know ,as well as others, that the Chiefs over the last 8 years have only covered "12.5 %, when visited by Oakland!" Both teams are BAD!  Witness Jacksonville  close loss in OT and cover in Oakland last week. Never ask a bad team to win! I prefer to take the measily 1 point with the more talented squad, & in a situation where they have covered extremely well in their past.

OAKLAND  + 1
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Posted: 10/25/2012 1:08:35 AM
TWO TEAMS  IN THE SAME CONF. WHO CANT PLAY ON A SUNDAY BUT CAN KICK SOME AZZ ON A SAT. NITE PLAYING EACH OTHER ON MADDEN NOT BUYING THIS ONE
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Posted: 10/25/2012 2:28:57 AM
I would feel horrible backing either of these teams.  The Raiders haven't even been consistent enough to bet for/against.  One game they look competent, the next game they struggle to beat the Jaguars.  Too volatile a matchup to be on.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 12:33:53 AM
if you went on Oak last week your certainly should not be this week 
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Posted: 10/26/2012 12:34:37 AM
were not *
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Posted: 10/26/2012 9:57:33 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by DraMMA:


do you think this is good or bad for the raiders... imo good, brady quinn got cut by the browns now he is gonna revitalize the chiefs... not buying it. also he sucked at Texas.


Thing about the chiefs is they don't want to lean on their QB, they want to do most everything through their potent ground game.  But with an absolutely hideous secondary, Oakland probably can't even stop Brady Quinn when he needs to throw.  I still chalk carson palmer up for a turnover or two in these games and when it comes down to it, I just don't know why people are in love with oakland this year.  They are an awful football team.  Their run game sucks and they're leaning on carson palmer to make it happen through the pass game.  They would have gotten steamrolled last week if MJD and gabbert didn't go down and force chad henne to show why he won't get another starting job in the NFL.  The fact that they won last week probably buys them some love from the betting public who seem to think they aren't terrible.  I said before the season that I expected them to be the worst team in the division and there's still plenty of time for the chiefs to get their crap together and make that happen.  Either way, I'll take the short home fav OFF A BYE against an equally or more so terrible team who will be just killing time until carson palmer is gone and they can draft in the first round again in a few years.

KC -1 (maybe pick em if i wait for the public to get their rocks off on oakland.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 12:03:21 PM

I looked long and hard at this matchup and I really struggled to find anything good to say about either one of these teams.  That being said, my inner wise guy likes the Chiefs and it likes them a lot!!   

As I mentioned, both of these teams sit at the bottom of the pack in the AFC.  The AFC West is clearly a 2-horse race between San Diego and Denver.  The Raiders needed overtime to beat the Jacksonville Jaguars at home last week.  In that game, the Jags lost MJD in the 1st quarter and their starting quarterback also got hurt.  The Raiders have some serious explaining to do as to why they let the Jags hang arounf in that game. 

And now for KC....I can't really find anything productive to say.  I think Romeo Crennel is a bad coach.  Their defense is giving up about 30 points a game and Romeo's specialty is supposed to be defense.  Brady Quinn looked awful on the road at Tampa prior to their bye.  But I think we are starting to learn that Tampa is probably a lot better team than we thought. Needless to say, the Chiefs are coming off a bye week in which both the coaches and players probably did a lot of soul searching after that blow out loss. 

Now in come the Oakland Raiders led by Carson Palmer.  Below are Carson Palmers numbers against the Chiefs last year:

1st game (at Oakand):  8/21, 116 yards, 0 TDs, 3 Interceptions (Chiefs won that game 28-0).

2nd game (at KC):  16/26, 237 yards, 1 TD, 2 Interceptions  (Raiders win in OT on a Janikowski fg 16-13).

As you can see, Palmer hasn't had great success against this unit.  Its now week 8 and the Chiefs have yet to win a home game.  In weeks 9 and 10, the Chiefs will be on the road at San Diego and then at Pittsburgh for a Monday Night game.  The Chiefs need a win under their belt in the worst possible way, and are not going to want to start the road trip by losing at home to the Raiders.

Again, I agree with most of you that both these teams are at the bottom of the pack in the AFC, so its tough to have conviction on either one.  But I think if you place any value on situational betting, than you have to like the Chiefs in this game.  I worry about their offense putting up points, but with Brady Quinn having an extra bye week to have starts with the first team, I think they will get the job done & get their first home win.    

take the Chiefs laying only 2     

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Posted: 10/26/2012 1:46:41 PM
Raiders Win and over 41.5
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Posted: 10/26/2012 5:15:23 PM

If anybody's historically got the Chief's number at Arrowhead - it's the Raiders. Also, you all know my feelings about Matt Cassel - and Brady Quinn? C'mon man....... 

But, how do the Raiders nearly beat the Falcons in Atlanta, then nearly lose to the F***ing Jags at home? I can't figure this team out.

No $$ from me on this game, but if I had to - I'd take the Raiders just because they'll probably wind up with more points from their defense than their offense..........

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Posted: 10/26/2012 6:56:46 PM
this is a very funny line......

KC favored? hahaha!!  man oh man ,thats how much respect the sliver n black have eh!

good lord,Palmer is better than Quinn right?

taking the once n mighty Raiders to cover here
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Posted: 10/27/2012 2:53:46 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

I looked long and hard at this matchup and I really struggled to find anything good to say about either one of these teams.  That being said, my inner wise guy likes the Chiefs and it likes them a lot!!   

As I mentioned, both of these teams sit at the bottom of the pack in the AFC.  The AFC West is clearly a 2-horse race between San Diego and Denver.  The Raiders needed overtime to beat the Jacksonville Jaguars at home last week.  In that game, the Jags lost MJD in the 1st quarter and their starting quarterback also got hurt.  The Raiders have some serious explaining to do as to why they let the Jags hang arounf in that game. 

And now for KC....I can't really find anything productive to say.  I think Romeo Crennel is a bad coach.  Their defense is giving up about 30 points a game and Romeo's specialty is supposed to be defense.  Brady Quinn looked awful on the road at Tampa prior to their bye.  But I think we are starting to learn that Tampa is probably a lot better team than we thought. Needless to say, the Chiefs are coming off a bye week in which both the coaches and players probably did a lot of soul searching after that blow out loss. 

Now in come the Oakland Raiders led by Carson Palmer.  Below are Carson Palmers numbers against the Chiefs last year:

1st game (at Oakand):  8/21, 116 yards, 0 TDs, 3 Interceptions (Chiefs won that game 28-0).

2nd game (at KC):  16/26, 237 yards, 1 TD, 2 Interceptions  (Raiders win in OT on a Janikowski fg 16-13).

As you can see, Palmer hasn't had great success against this unit.  Its now week 8 and the Chiefs have yet to win a home game.  In weeks 9 and 10, the Chiefs will be on the road at San Diego and then at Pittsburgh for a Monday Night game.  The Chiefs need a win under their belt in the worst possible way, and are not going to want to start the road trip by losing at home to the Raiders.

Again, I agree with most of you that both these teams are at the bottom of the pack in the AFC, so its tough to have conviction on either one.  But I think if you place any value on situational betting, than you have to like the Chiefs in this game.  I worry about their offense putting up points, but with Brady Quinn having an extra bye week to have starts with the first team, I think they will get the job done & get their first home win.    

take the Chiefs laying only 2     



I think you've got the idea right there.  All Brady quinn has to do is protect the ball and minimize turnovers to be better than palmer.  The run game will do the rest and it's better for KC than for oakland.  Chiefs also have better defensive personel than the raiders and the bye should help them get better if not play to potential.

Raiders are a very bad team, and you should never take very bad teams on the road unless they have value and +1 is not value.

CHIEFS -1
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Posted: 10/27/2012 8:28:21 PM
HILLIS back.......HILLIS CHARLES run all over the raiders.....Chiefs by 7
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Posted: 10/27/2012 10:08:51 PM

Looked back at the last 10 meetings between these 2 teams and the team who is the favorite wins and covers.If that trend continues tommorow then KC is the play. Prediction: 23-20 chiefs

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Posted: 10/27/2012 11:03:09 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by binger1:

 

Looked back at the last 10 meetings between these 2 teams and the team who is the favorite wins and covers.If that trend continues tommorow then KC is the play. Prediction: 23-20 chiefs

Dude, you read that wrong, The DOG has won 10 straight,

Oak has won 6 straight @KC, and the road team is 11-1 SU

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Posted: 10/28/2012 12:40:48 AM
Rd Team in this series is 16-1-1.  All you need to know.
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Posted: 10/28/2012 4:05:16 AM
KC
Over

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Posted: 10/28/2012 10:08:06 AM

Kansas City - 26                             Oakland - 17

Chiefs -1                                     over 42.5

Coming off rest week might be a good time to turn the season around. I know the visitor in this series is the play but come on, the Chiefs have the secret weapon (Quinn) The trend stops here at Arrowhead.

Chiefs - Over

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Posted: 10/28/2012 11:26:49 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

Kansas City - 26                             Oakland - 17

Chiefs -1                                     over 42.5

Coming off rest week might be a good time to turn the season around. I know the visitor in this series is the play but come on, the Chiefs have the secret weapon (Quinn) The trend stops here at Arrowhead.

Chiefs - Over

QUINN really Jim.Got to go against you Col.inside info says the Raiders
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Posted: 10/28/2012 11:53:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Buddhabud:

QUINN really Jim.Got to go against you Col.inside info says the Raiders
I forgot the lol after Quinn.....I know the Raiders is the way to go here but I'm going with my gut. And it's telling me Chiefs at home will be up for this one. No one really stepping up in this division, and with only one win and looking at the rest of their schedule, the Chiefs just might be the sleeping dog that awakens, regardless of whoever is QBing. Crazy as it sounds...gl buddha
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