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Posted: 1/11/2012 5:26:35 PM
sorry but brees is just a beast and he has all the momentum this year, and im looking forward for greenbay and new orleans playing next.  Niners just one notch down from superbowl worthy and niners cant always depends on gore and screen short passes with barely any td, only field goals, and rely strictly on defense coming against a well oiled teams like saints!  too many option plays on offense and there defense will pressure smith all day.

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Posted: 1/11/2012 6:33:06 PM

When you can't run and trying to pass and the noise from the fan is just tooo much disrupting you rhythm.

I'd like to know how Drew and the team are gonna react.

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Posted: 1/11/2012 6:33:46 PM
My first impression of the line (3.5) seemed somewhat low--one of those gifts, you know. But realizing the line setters know much more about this business than I do, I took a closer look.

The Saints' road record isn't that impressive. Their victories were considerably close and the Rams beat them (an anomaly for sure). The other factors:

San Fran' two-week rest

Outstanding defensive front 7. (I am NOT impressed by their defensive backs and think Brees will exploit this weakness all game.)

Saints traveling to West Coast

Saints having a short week

So, there's a few good reasons for that 3.5 point line

The 49ersalso have an incredibly reliable kicker...Andy Reid booted him out of Philly. and we miss him.

"The Saints are sending three offensive linemen to the Pro Bowl" (SB Nation)

Alex Smith has managed the game well over the second half of the season, but I think he'll max out at 20.

I'm going with the Saints, too much offense. The 49ers had a great season, but the Saints will atone for last year's uninspired performance against Seattle.





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Posted: 1/11/2012 6:35:21 PM

niners running game will keep ball out of brees hands and wear down N.O's D

S.F +3.5

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Posted: 1/11/2012 8:20:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by joshcenci12345:

In the first round of the playoffs, the favorites win about 80% of the time.  This year, all the favorites won except Pittsburgh.  With that being said, in the second round, the underdogs win more than half of the game because they have already played one game and the first round bye teams come in with a few weeks off and their opponents already have played a game and got their confidence up.  With that being said, this week i am going to take all the underdogs EXCEPT the Saints.  The Saints have too much on Offense for San Fran to handle, yes i know thier defense is tops in the league, but the NFL is turned to a passing league now and Brees will prove my point this week.  For San Fran to win this game, they will have to put up atleast 28 points, and who really actually thinks Alex Smith is capable of that?? I sure as hell dont.  As far as the other game go, ill take the rest of the underdogs..  Houston can stop the run, an thats key because we all know Flacco chokes in the playoffs just like Matt Ryan does, so if houston can stop the run, cuz Ray Rice is the only reason they win, Houston should def. cover 8 points.  The Giants D is coming up big late an have all the momentum, 8 pts there is too much in my opinion again, and i dont care that Tebows throws under 50%, he makes plays and New England's D... well you know how they are... Awful.  So ill take the 3 underdogs and the Saints as the only favorite this weekend,  Good Luck everyone

I disagree with the bets.  The team with the highest chance for upset is the Saints.  For Giants.. Eli is on and off and poor on road vs high pass-offense team.  For Houston.. you're talking about beating good defense/good offense undefeated-at-home Baltimore.  For Denver... Brady is a beast at scoring..  he already destroyed Denver @Denver!  Tebow and the Broncos barely beat injured Pitt.  Only Saint and Niners are closely-matched here because of power defense vs power offense.  Like I said before.. I'd take the Saint but want Niners to win.
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Posted: 1/11/2012 8:24:14 PM
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Dude your avitar is the construction guy from YMCA. I wouldn't be calling anyone a person if I were you.....Just sayin

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Posted: 1/11/2012 8:43:47 PM

49'rs have an extra weeks rest, the better defense and home field advantage but I don't think they can win or cover. The Saints are clicking on all cylinders right now . Over the last 3 games NO is AVERAGING 547 yards and 45 points per game. In those 3 games Brees has combined for 12 TD passes. The Saints will cause match up problems for the 49rs. They will attack the flats with Sproles and hit Grahm on short yardage routes to open up the long ball.

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Posted: 1/11/2012 9:01:25 PM
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I disagree with the bets.  The team with the highest chance for upset is the Saints.  For Giants.. Eli is on and off and poor on road vs high pass-offense team.  For Houston.. you're talking about beating good defense/good offense undefeated-at-home Baltimore.  For Denver... Brady is a beast at scoring..  he already destroyed Denver @Denver!  Tebow and the Broncos barely beat injured Pitt.  Only Saint and Niners are closely-matched here because of power defense vs power offense.  Like I said before.. I'd take the Saint but want Niners to win.

Eli Manning is a top tier QB.  people need to give him more credit,  he deserves it.  As far as im concerned, he has a chance to overtake big brother this year.  i will admit, Eli has tendencies to make you say why did you throw that ball, but he threw for 5,000 yards this year an the last 3-4 games of the year he didnt make mistakes, and that deffensive line has been unbelievable, by far the best line in football, they just simply get after you and wont give any QB any time to throw and they will effect Rodgers.  Very similar situation for the Gmen like it was in what 07?  As far as Baltimore, all you need to say is Flacco, the dude is a flat out bust in big time playoff games, Houston's D needs to put 8 in the box and stop Ray Rice cuz i can guarantee you Flacco will garbage his pants and blow this game if they put the ball in his hands in the 4th quarter,  He has proved nothing to be able to win a game himself.  Ray Rice will be the only reason Baltimore wins this game.  And yea Tebow doesnt stand a chance comparing him to Brady, but thats what its not about with this Denver team, everything came into factor in going 8-4 when Tebow took over.  You and i could probably play defense for the Pats, they are flat out pathetic.  they gave up 170 yards rushing in the 1st quarter last meeting, and denvers coaching cost them that game, When they went up by 2 scores, they went into shutdown mode, they ran the ball and played not to lose and ran the ball on 1st down every single series but one i think.  All im saying is i dont think Denver can beat New England straight up but 13.5 , prob go up to 14 Sunday.... is a gift in my opinion.. GOOD LUCK though
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Posted: 1/11/2012 9:07:03 PM
I said it last week ,  Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are identical to me.  Matt Ryan has weapons and he will put up some decent numbers during regular season and thats as far as it goes right there.  When he gets in the playoffs, he forgets what to do and chokes every year.  Flacco is alot alike, he wont put up the yards Ryan does but he will manage the game to get u to 12-4 .  In all the losses Flacco threw the ball more and what happens,  you dont win.  The play calling is suspect in those games as to why you only give Ray Rice 10 touches,  he needs to touch the ball 30+ times for Baltimore to win because Flacco goes into scared mode and doesnt look like he belongs out there in those situations and his team deep down knows that especially the D cuz they save him ALOT
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Posted: 1/11/2012 10:00:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Big-vegas:

Dude your avitar is the construction guy from YMCA. I wouldn't be calling anyone a person if I were you.....Just sayin

That is a picture of me avatared i am not worried ummm brah
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Posted: 1/11/2012 10:02:12 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by NEVERgo4less:


I disagree with the bets.  The team with the highest chance for upset is the Saints.  For Giants.. Eli is on and off and poor on road vs high pass-offense team.  For Houston.. you're talking about beating good defense/good offense undefeated-at-home Baltimore.  For Denver... Brady is a beast at scoring..  he already destroyed Denver @Denver!  Tebow and the Broncos barely beat injured Pitt.  Only Saint and Niners are closely-matched here because of power defense vs power offense.  Like I said before.. I'd take the Saint but want Niners to win.

 

 I gotta disagree with an equal match up between the 2 teams.  Offense on SF is just running and short plays, predictable offense with horrible red zone percentage all season. Smith chokes in pressure cant throw it deep, not much to worry about SF offense.  Defense is good in SF division but Breez is secretly on steriods, beast mode! 6th sense on the field. So with the STRONG front from NINERS WILL NOT be able to contain this monster BREEZ with man to man coverage on his recievers is a no no .  Thats been there defense all season long and I dont think it'll work on Saints, first half they might be able too. but 2nd half BREEZ will get his groove.

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Posted: 1/11/2012 11:20:38 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Big-vegas:

Dude your avitar is the construction guy from YMCA. I wouldn't be calling anyone a person if I were you.....Just sayin

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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:12:32 AM

   Any team (the Saints) that loses on the road to the St. Louis Rams, is hardly SB material. Just saying....

SAN FRANCISCO  + 3.5

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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:16:58 AM

 C-mon guys this is an easy game here ask your self if you're down by 7pts with 2 minutes left on the clock who are you going to go with Brees or Smith k shut darn up enough said! This weekend is walk in the park odds makers make mistakes this weekend they made some HUGE mistakes the casinos will get burned  go against every favorite with the exception of NO I don't care what the lines are wrap em up in a 4 team parlay put so mayo on that with extra meat bend it  like Beckham twist em like twizzler dunk em like donuts dip em like oreo do what ever book maker will let you do then run like hell and you didn't hear it from me.
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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:17:33 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Big-vegas:

49'rs have an extra weeks rest, the better defense and home field advantage but I don't think they can win or cover. The Saints are clicking on all cylinders right now . Over the last 3 games NO is AVERAGING 547 yards and 45 points per game. In those 3 games Brees has combined for 12 TD passes. The Saints will cause match up problems for the 49rs. They will attack the flats with Sproles and hit Grahm on short yardage routes to open up the long ball.

NO -3

 

WHO DAT -3.5   

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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:41:55 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by joshcenci12345:

Do you really think Teddy F'n Ginn is a "key player"  come on now, lets get real.  .....


I like Ginn's special team play, which btw has been another key for the niner's wins. The other key play, Willis will be back in his 2nd game, after his return, he tweeted:

Patrick Willis: "Today is suppose to be a day to rest but I didn't feel good about the way I felt n played yesterday coming back So no rest for me. Grind n getting back to form n better is what it's all about for me these next 2 weeks. Good day my twitt friends"  

To me, that sounds like a man on a mission, yes, a "key" part of an already potent defense...  GLTA
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Posted: 1/12/2012 1:37:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by joshcenci12345:

I said it last week ,  Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are identical to me.  Matt Ryan has weapons and he will put up some decent numbers during regular season and thats as far as it goes right there.  When he gets in the playoffs, he forgets what to do and chokes every year.  Flacco is alot alike, he wont put up the yards Ryan does but he will manage the game to get u to 12-4 .  In all the losses Flacco threw the ball more and what happens,  you dont win.  The play calling is suspect in those games as to why you only give Ray Rice 10 touches,  he needs to touch the ball 30+ times for Baltimore to win because Flacco goes into scared mode and doesnt look like he belongs out there in those situations and his team deep down knows that especially the D cuz they save him ALOT

I would give Flacco more credit than that.. at least at home.  Baltimore were in the last 3 playoffs but in none of those 3s did they have home field advantage.  And remember, they always won their 1st playoff game.  Houston was not that impressive on the previous game.. Cincy sucked.. that's all it was.
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Posted: 1/12/2012 3:28:24 PM
To all who think NO will roll they do not play well on the road look at these stats iI included this year and last I know they are a little better they were 3-6 5x it went over the total that vegas has it set at 3x they won by more then 3.5 that is a 50% chance they will cover but when you have those scores in those games it comes out 28/27 win for NO. Against playoff teams there were 6-7 includedind last year 5x over and 5xthey won by 3.5 points or more that is a 90% chance they will cover. Against similiar teams to San Fran team they were 5-8 5x they won by 3.5 points or more that is a 70% chance they will cover. Now this is the kicker they both faced off against 4 of the same teams and No was 1-4 only 1x they won by 3.5 points or more the scores averaged out to 30/27 2x going over. Lets look at San Fran at home this where it gets interesting they are 4-7 against playoff teams including this year and last year 0x they got beat by 3.5 points or more 5x it over that score was 27/20 they win by 7 overall against playoff teams including this year and last they were 8-16 4x they lost by 3.5 points 5x it went over against similiar teams to a No they were 3-8 0x they lost by 3.5 points. Here is the red flag they both faced off against 4 of the same teams and WERE 4-4 0X THEY LOST BY 3.5 POINTS 2X OVER THEY WON BY 34-13. MY PERDICTION TAKE SAN FRAN +3.5 WITH A FINAL SCORE OF 27/24 THIS CAN GO EITHER WAY
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Posted: 1/12/2012 4:52:48 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vue21849:

   Any team (the Saints) that loses on the road to the St. Louis Rams, is hardly SB material. Just saying....

SAN FRANCISCO  + 3.5



Does that mean the Packers aren't Super Bowl material either since they lost to the Chiefs?
Yes I know the Chiefs are a LITTLE better than the Rams.
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Posted: 1/12/2012 6:48:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pepa192:

 Bouncer07 predict da breed going for 18 yard + in da game??

    6000

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= 58    just in case your a visual kind of guy.

 

Saints 8 - 0 ATS last 8 in and out of the dome

Niners cant afford to kick field goals all day and common, do you really think that Alex Smith has the verticle passing abilities with a blitzing team like the Saints? I don't think so. Saints "D" is 5 x vetter this year than the year they won the Super Bowl. Brees is on fire and Sproles + Ghram combo on 3rd downs is all they need. Alex smith will spend a lot of time looking at plays from the side line because Saints running and passing game will eat up 5-6 minutes at a time.

 

Saints 39

49ers 18

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Posted: 1/12/2012 7:07:41 PM

We are playing the home underdog San Francisco 49ers because this game is reminding me like the Broncos/Steelers game. The public is talking about the Saints/Packers matchup for the NFC Championship but wait! The 49ers defense will be ready for the Saints high power offense and luckily the 49ers play their games outside because this is why this game will be close. Saints go home empty handed.

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Posted: 1/12/2012 7:07:50 PM

BTW. As far as picks that I posted on this forum this season, I am 8 -1. Thats pretty good odds if you ask me and I dont pick em all, only the ones I like and  I really like this game. Saints will go all the way. Giants will take Green Bay out of the equation which leaves the Patriots. Their defense sucks and the Super Bowl is in a dome. Thats if Broncos dont take them out which I personally tink they have a good chance. Baltimore is way to 1 dimensional. They do have Ray Rice at 38 years of age and Ray Lewis at 41. Houston is no match so this weekend will tell the tale. $9ers will no way, no how win this game. Not even close.

808pickyboy alldaylong

Brees will pass for over 350+ yards in this game.

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Posted: 1/12/2012 8:52:09 PM
Look at gores yardage the last 8 games.Not much there.He had better step it up if the niners are going to win.Still leaning on the saints heavy.Gl All
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Posted: 1/12/2012 10:14:31 PM

N.O.

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Posted: 1/13/2012 12:18:22 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vue21849:

   Any team (the Saints) that loses on the road to the St. Louis Rams, is hardly SB material. Just saying....

SAN FRANCISCO  + 3.5



to add to your point...

I look at the Rams game and the Seattle playoff game and the common denomenator is definitely the nfc west, but also good run games.... and good running backs..... Jackson, Lynch, Gore....

I feel like the Saints are outmatched in the trenches on the road....I know how good Brees is, but I gotta go with the defense in this matchup....

Alex Smith is a mobile qb and can move the sticks.... NO defense isn't impressive on the road.... just at home when they have that 12th man working for them.....

12th and 13th man will be in SF for the first playoff game since...... (I don't feel like looking it up but definintely a long time)


 I feel strongly about this pick, I made it before the Saints/Lions game.....

49ers ML
49ers +3.5

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