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Posted: 9/29/2013 3:06:34 AM

Away:  Texas [2-2 ATS]
Home:  Iowa State [1-2 ATS]

Game Time: 7:30 PM
Stadium: Jack Trice Stadium

Recent Meetings:
11/10/12 - ISU 7 vs. TEX 33
10/01/11 - TEX 37 vs. ISU 14
10/23/10 - ISU 28 vs. TEX 21

Team Leaders:

Texas:
Passing: David Ash (760)
Rushing: Johnathan Gray (350)
Receiving: Jaxon Shipley (259)

Iowa State:
Passing: Sam Richardson (757)
Rushing: Aaron Wimberly (185)
Receiving: Quenton Bundrage (186)

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Posted: 9/30/2013 10:53:01 PM
The line dropped but i like Texas. Idk what isu  just did. Texas should beat isu  plain and simple. Tacking  the horns here -7.5
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Posted: 10/1/2013 1:15:13 AM
if ash plays texas should win by 10+.........if Mccoy or Swoopes plays it might be less
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Posted: 10/1/2013 10:46:13 AM
Things to keep in mind for this game...

1)  Texas has success when they are able to grind the ball on the ground.  Once the backs get going it's bad news for opponents.  ISU has been vulnerable in the run and against poor football teams.  Doesn't bode well for them

2)  Texas is vulnerable to the run or had been much before last week had some technique adjustments.  Yet running the ball is not Iowa St.'s strong suit to take big advantage.

3)  Texas gets their two most dangerous weapons and quick strike receivers back on offense from injury...Mike Davis and Daje Johnson.  Daje Johnson is the one who changes the entire Texas offense when on the field, he's that explosive.

4)  If Ash is not in and Case starts, it will allow ISU to play tight against the run and make McCoy beat them with his arm.  And that's a crapshoot at best.  Giving 7.5 in that situation would scare me,

5)  If Ash plays, ISU will have to play Texas straight up and could be in for a long night.

6)  If Swoopes plays at QB, many think it will be a disadvantage to Texas.  Not with his insane running ability / elusivenss, and ISU's leaky run defense.  It would be bad news for the Cyclones.

7)  Ash or Swoopes, Texas is in business and should win by 10+.  McCoy, I'd be very wary of giving 7.5.

8)  One last thing, this game is a bad spot for Texas.  Not used to mid week games at all.  Leaving Austin Wednesday evening after classes, and playing very next day.  Had a must-win against nemesis Kansas St last week and triumphed.  Have another must-win next weekend against the hated Sooners who have owned them lately.  ISU could easily catch Texas napping and lacking intensity while Cyclones are pumped up and at home.

I still say it all depends on the QB.  Case McCoy will be tough to overcome for Texas and cover more than a TD.  He doesn't have the arm strength and the coaches don't trust him to make mid-level throws when they are needed.  Ole Miss rolled up the secondary in the 2nd half and coaches still wouldn't let him throw very far.  
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Posted: 10/1/2013 11:14:54 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by echelon1:

Things to keep in mind for this game...

1)  Texas has success when they are able to grind the ball on the ground.  Once the backs get going it's bad news for opponents.  ISU has been vulnerable in the run and against poor football teams.  Doesn't bode well for them

2)  Texas is vulnerable to the run or had been much before last week had some technique adjustments.  Yet running the ball is not Iowa St.'s strong suit to take big advantage.

3)  Texas gets their two most dangerous weapons and quick strike receivers back on offense from injury...Mike Davis and Daje Johnson.  Daje Johnson is the one who changes the entire Texas offense when on the field, he's that explosive.

4)  If Ash is not in and Case starts, it will allow ISU to play tight against the run and make McCoy beat them with his arm.  And that's a crapshoot at best.  Giving 7.5 in that situation would scare me,

5)  If Ash plays, ISU will have to play Texas straight up and could be in for a long night.

6)  If Swoopes plays at QB, many think it will be a disadvantage to Texas.  Not with his insane running ability / elusivenss, and ISU's leaky run defense.  It would be bad news for the Cyclones.

7)  Ash or Swoopes, Texas is in business and should win by 10+.  McCoy, I'd be very wary of giving 7.5.

8)  One last thing, this game is a bad spot for Texas.  Not used to mid week games at all.  Leaving Austin Wednesday evening after classes, and playing very next day.  Had a must-win against nemesis Kansas St last week and triumphed.  Have another must-win next weekend against the hated Sooners who have owned them lately.  ISU could easily catch Texas napping and lacking intensity while Cyclones are pumped up and at home.

I still say it all depends on the QB.  Case McCoy will be tough to overcome for Texas and cover more than a TD.  He doesn't have the arm strength and the coaches don't trust him to make mid-level throws when they are needed.  Ole Miss rolled up the secondary in the 2nd half and coaches still wouldn't let him throw very far.  

Very well said. I completely agree with your last points as it is a terrible spot for Texas. The Clones are good at getting up for these kind of games (Beating Okla st outright on Friday night as a nearly 4 TD dog 2 years ago)  and with a must win game sandwiched with OU -- NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND! 
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Posted: 10/1/2013 4:04:09 PM

there a lot of reasons to pass on this game for me..

Thursday night game

iowa st is a bad team

texas highly variable; could win this game by 20 or lose by 7; hard to predict

ash, hicks, and possibly digs out for game for texas

nationally televised; talented but vulnerable texas team; the home team trying to saver their season with an upset victory over big bad texas...

I thought about it, but I am staying away from this game...

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Posted: 10/1/2013 9:46:09 PM
Deloss Dodds stepping down as Texas AD.  He has been in that role since 1981.  Obviously Mack Brown's biggest supporter.  Yes, this does not go into effect until August of next year, but it will affect the program in some way.  Finally the end of Mack Brown? Red River Rivalry may end up sealing his fate if the 'horns lose next week. 'Should' win here, but may be distracted and looking ahead. With that said, early lean on an improving ISU team for the cover (although they have a long way to go).
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Posted: 10/2/2013 3:23:46 PM
Of course with Ash playing, he gives Texas a much better chance of winning. If the other scrubs have to play, Texas still should win if they don't commit any turnovers or make stupid plays. I would bet Texas ML and maybe put a little on the -8 points.
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Posted: 10/2/2013 3:28:29 PM
One other thing, Mack might get Kiffinized if he doesn't win this game. You know Kiffinized as in getting fired in the middle of the season.
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Posted: 10/2/2013 7:22:55 PM
QUOTE@ Eche, thanks for the insight, any Texas game I always look for your write ups.

running with Tex -8, staying away from the total. if I did lean towards the under with Mac and friends looking towards OK next week.

Originally Posted by echelon1:

Things to keep in mind for this game...

1)  Texas has success when they are able to grind the ball on the ground.  Once the backs get going it's bad news for opponents.  ISU has been vulnerable in the run and against poor football teams.  Doesn't bode well for them

2)  Texas is vulnerable to the run or had been much before last week had some technique adjustments.  Yet running the ball is not Iowa St.'s strong suit to take big advantage.

3)  Texas gets their two most dangerous weapons and quick strike receivers back on offense from injury...Mike Davis and Daje Johnson.  Daje Johnson is the one who changes the entire Texas offense when on the field, he's that explosive.

4)  If Ash is not in and Case starts, it will allow ISU to play tight against the run and make McCoy beat them with his arm.  And that's a crapshoot at best.  Giving 7.5 in that situation would scare me,

5)  If Ash plays, ISU will have to play Texas straight up and could be in for a long night.

6)  If Swoopes plays at QB, many think it will be a disadvantage to Texas.  Not with his insane running ability / elusivenss, and ISU's leaky run defense.  It would be bad news for the Cyclones.

7)  Ash or Swoopes, Texas is in business and should win by 10+.  McCoy, I'd be very wary of giving 7.5.

8)  One last thing, this game is a bad spot for Texas.  Not used to mid week games at all.  Leaving Austin Wednesday evening after classes, and playing very next day.  Had a must-win against nemesis Kansas St last week and triumphed.  Have another must-win next weekend against the hated Sooners who have owned them lately.  ISU could easily catch Texas napping and lacking intensity while Cyclones are pumped up and at home.

I still say it all depends on the QB.  Case McCoy will be tough to overcome for Texas and cover more than a TD.  He doesn't have the arm strength and the coaches don't trust him to make mid-level throws when they are needed.  Ole Miss rolled up the secondary in the 2nd half and coaches still wouldn't let him throw very far.  
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Posted: 10/2/2013 10:38:34 PM
Oh yeah very familiar with kiffin. Doc called his firing in the asu thread before it happened. The doc knows all. Mack goin down after Oklahoma game!!!! Tex all done. Even pchizo earl Campbell said f him!!! Cyclones cover
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Posted: 10/3/2013 8:48:15 AM
Fellas, Texas has to have some fortunate red zone turnovers to preserve the win against K-st ( a team that had previously lost at home to North Dakota State). That was a must win, night game at home. I was not impressed. Texas is not a very good football team regardless of who is playing QB. Now I concede the Cyclones aren't good either but iMO this line is too high and you have to take the points and for a sneaky play Clones ML
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Posted: 10/3/2013 10:19:30 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by DJNY:


Very well said. I completely agree with your last points as it is a terrible spot for Texas. The Clones are good at getting up for these kind of games (Beating Okla st outright on Friday night as a nearly 4 TD dog 2 years ago)  and with a must win game sandwiched with OU -- NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND! 

i disagree with all of your pts here... 

1) the entire osu community had a complete letdown when just the day before that game against ISU, their women's bball coach was killed in a plane crash. I have a lot of friends and family that are OSU alum, believe me, it impacted the players and made football a lot less meaningful that day. It was just a great spot for ISU with a much better team than they have now.

2) The OU game has not even begun getting prepped for. This is a team and coaching staff that knows they can't afford any slip ups. They aren't overlooking ISU. It being a Thursday game also gives them extra time to prepare for the following week... OU.

3) This is a great spot for Texas. They were fortunate to have a bye week coming into this game to finally get the defense completely lined out under new defensive coordinator greg robinson. losing hicks last game was enormous for the horns, but they have had extra time to prepare knowing he would be out so it shouldn't hurt them as much as it would have.

Ash is out for the game, but he is just a touch better than mccoy, mainly because Ash is mediocre at best. I'd rather see Ash in there, but this could be the game where Mack finally rolls the dice and gets Swoopes some playing time. Probably a pipe dream, but we'll see. Mack should have a nothing to lose mentality at this pt with Dodds leaving, so he might finally mix it up a bit. Either way, I expect the defense to be the unit that steps up and pulls out this victory and cover. Small wager here as I am too much of a homer to trust myself all the time on my team, but I do like this spot for them.
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Posted: 10/3/2013 10:58:35 AM

seriously, you guys...you need to look at this objectively...

which team has more talent...

which team is more motivated to perform...

which team has performed better from a relative perspective, season to date...

Texas has had two weeks to prepare...with the way that OU has spanked Texas the last two seasons, Texas must go into that game with momentum.   Texas knows that if it loses to a bad Iowa St team or barely covers, things will look bad for OU.  Mack can't afford to let that happen.   He still believes he can save his job.   Even if he did not think he could save his job, he would be working on his legacy...Texas has owned Iowa St since it joined the Big XII (exception 2010).  

I don't see this game being close...even without Hicks and with Case McCoy at QB....Texas by 2+ TDs...

 

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seriously, you guys...you need to look at this objectively...

which team has more talent...

which team is more motivated to perform...

which team has performed better from a relative perspective, season to date...

Texas has had two weeks to prepare...with the way that OU has spanked Texas the last two seasons, Texas must go into that game with momentum.   Texas knows that if it loses to a bad Iowa St team or barely covers, things will look bad for OU.  Mack can't afford to let that happen.   He still believes he can save his job.   Even if he did not think he could save his job, he would be working on his legacy...Texas has owned Iowa St since it joined the Big XII (exception 2010).  

I don't see this game being close...even without Hicks and with Case McCoy at QB....Texas by 2+ TDs...

 

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Put me down for the Longhorns minus the TD !   

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Posted: 10/3/2013 1:14:16 PM
Now that the line is down to a single TD, I'm leaning with Texas as the small play even with McCoy in.  Who btw, does have some scrambling ability and good improvisation skills against so-so defenses.  The arm strength lacks but not sure it will kill him in this one.

Should be close for a while as ISU will come in pumped, but the Texas ground game is in a good spot here to keep the chains moving and eventually get big gains later on.  Key is Texas has to throw the ball downfield some early to keep Clones from loading up the box.  

Might get to see Swoopes make his QB debut somewhere in this game.  Now that likely will be needed down the road since Ash is a real risk to miss much time with any more head injuries in the future.  Mark my words, Swoopes will shock some people if he gets in this one.  The guy is one of those players that is just a gamer and extremely hard to tackle.  He does remind you of an inexperienced, unpolished Vince Young in the way he plays.  

Would be a different story if ISU could pound the rock on the leaky Horns run D but they just haven't done so yet.  The extra week to prepare will help the Horns avoid too much of a mid-week nap.  And the defense is still out to prove they are making huge strides to be competitive.  Texas by 10 by taking over in the 4th.  Just hope ISU doesn't get a late backdoor cover.    
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Posted: 10/3/2013 1:25:02 PM
voldkoff,

I appreciate the compliment on the analysis.  I try to be as impartial as possible and breakdown into much detail the strengths and weaknesses on each side, as I'm very familiar with the specifics of Texas players and their past history.  Not always correct as players do buck trends, but I take all the info I've seen on the players over time and offer insight to help as best as possible.  I def hope Texas beats ISU, with a decent line next week OU is a juicy bet.  Texas matches up very poorly in the player details in that one.  Good luck this week everyone.
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Posted: 10/3/2013 1:39:39 PM
Being an Iowa Hawkeye fan I see and hear about ISU all the time.  This is their crappiest team in a few years and has been terrible at home.  That being said, the Cyclones still always seem to find a way to win one big they have no right winning.  Texas looks terrible this year and ISU will be all jacked up to play their butts off against Texas at home on national TV.

I don't think ISU wins this one but I'm leaning on them to cover.  They're always a scrappy team.
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Posted: 10/3/2013 2:18:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Hawkeye21:

Being an Iowa Hawkeye fan I see and hear about ISU all the time.  This is their crappiest team in a few years and has been terrible at home.  That being said, the Cyclones still always seem to find a way to win one big they have no right winning.  Texas looks terrible this year and ISU will be all jacked up to play their butts off against Texas at home on national TV.

I don't think ISU wins this one but I'm leaning on them to cover.  They're always a scrappy team.

Listen to the unbiased, gentleman! You Texas fans just keep making your points for what you want to happen. We're talking a Thursday night home game for a team that plays hard and finds ways to win / keep games close. I can get 8 points and will still probably take it. Thursday night is a DOG / UNDER kind of day...So I will be making a bigger play on the under... GL ALL 
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Posted: 10/3/2013 5:42:35 PM

Iowa State, pretty piss poor..Texas, well, a little better than piss poor. Have to be on the under here. GL

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Posted: 10/3/2013 6:45:33 PM
texas sucks,I st sucks= +7.5
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Posted: 10/3/2013 7:15:09 PM
Both teams aren't very impressive. I think the Longhorns have more of a sense of urgency to win. Small play on Texas ML.
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Posted: 10/3/2013 7:21:21 PM

Iowa St 27

Texas 17

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