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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:34:47 AM

Away: Houston [6-1 ATS]
Home: Tulsa [4-3-1 ATS]

Game Time: 7:30 PM
Stadium: Skelly Stadium

Recent Meetings:
11/15/08 - TULSA 30 vs. HOU 70
11/10/07 - HOU 7 vs. TULSA 56
11/04/06 - TULSA 10 vs. HOU 27

Team Leaders:

Houston:
Passing: Case Keenum (3293)
Rushing: Bryce Beall (515)
Receiving: James Cleveland (686)

Tulsa:
Passing: G.J. Kinne (1498)
Rushing: Jamad Williams (271)
Receiving: Damaris Johnson (567)

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Warblade

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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:04:54 AM

Something is definitely wrong with this line. Not sure if the lines-maker miss all of Tulsa's game this year or not, but Houston should be favored by at least 14 in this game.

Tulsa's defense sucks, and they are more of a dink-and-dunk team this year.

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Posted: 11/2/2009 2:38:53 PM

Very fishy line

Does Houston have any major injuries? They should be able to outscore Tulsa by at least 10 points, but -2.5 seems too easy. More research needed .

CollegeSharp

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Posted: 11/2/2009 6:55:21 PM

Trap game? Same as last year, remember Tulsa -2 ? Final Score Houston 70 Tulsa 35.. Tulsa had 7 turnovers! Almost makes me think this series is fixed.... This will be a huge public play on Houston and the line is already falling instead of rising.... Sharp

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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:11:44 PM

Trap? Sandwich? Call it whatever.....Lightning will have to strike Case Keenum dead for Tulsa to have a chance to have a chance...

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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:45:23 AM

Oh my... All you guys going to take Houston I would be very careful of this game. You will not be happy after the game taking Houston. Wow can't believe my eyes, Houston only opened at -3 and now down to -1.5 with over 95% on them. All I can say is WOW!

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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:03:47 AM

I know, this line if fishy, but I don't want to make a decision base on fishy lines. I need some sort of logical explanations, to take a team like Tulsa.

Tulsa's QB Kinne cannot stretch the field, their coach is not good, they lost their OC from the past few years(I believe he's at Auburn now), they use alot of screen passes that just doesn't work, their gadget plays are just as ridiculous, they have no sense of urgency when they're losing, bad clock management, their defense is not good, they are capable of burning all their timeouts in the 1st quarter

.

Only thing I can see positive for this team, is that they're playing at home, which doesn't mean much this season and they have alot of talented WR on the team, but Kinne is not great at getting them the ball.

In the past, Tulsa was known for their explosive offense, lead by a very good QB, capable of striking from anywhere on the field. This year, most of their plays are less then 20yds.

I'm gonna have to follow the logical path here, and take Houston. If this is a sucka bet, then so be it.

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Posted: 11/3/2009 3:40:10 PM

This is not the Tulsa of years gone by.This is the Tulsa that just lost to SMU,favored to beat UTEP by 9 and lost by 7,kept it close with Boise st. after recovering 2 fumbles and pushed the line against Rice.Cougs are 4-0 ATS after the wakeup loss against UTEP.No major position injuries to report on either side and looks like perfect football weather.Take the Cougs and keep going.

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Posted: 11/3/2009 3:51:06 PM

This may be a sucker's bet, but I'm taking the bait! I capped it at Houston -9.5, so I'll lay the 2 against an inferior Tulsa squad.

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Posted: 11/3/2009 5:17:31 PM

Now Tulsa -1.5....a 4.5 point swing....

..I love Case Keenum and the Cougars been on them every game...

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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:10:14 PM

I have the same feeling about Houston in this matchup as I did last year when I took Tulsa. I learned my lesson.

Lay off.

There are three really strange lines this week:
Oklahoma, Oregon, and Houston.

Lay off all three and find better elsewhere.

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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:53:36 PM

Let me give out a few stats and it's not that crazy now that I've looked at it... Talking Conference USA: Houston #1 Offense... Tulsa #1 Defense Houston Defense (between 10-last in conference) Tulsa #2 Offense... Conference Rival.... revenge game for a 70-30 thumping... So publics view might be skewed until you look at these #'s..... and I haven't made a decision either way... Sharp

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Posted: 11/3/2009 9:19:27 PM

Why the hell would Tulsa be favored by 1 in this game...Someone please tell me?

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Posted: 11/3/2009 9:23:50 PM

Is it because of the pereived home field advantage over the last two years when these two sans defensive squads meet?

11/15/08	TULSA 30 - HOU 70	HOU 3.5	O 80.5	-140	-152
11/10/07	HOU 7 - TULSA 56

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Posted: 11/3/2009 9:26:33 PM

The game is 2007 did not involve Sumlin. I lost on the UH v. UTEP game.

Do the Vegas handicappers believe this game is going to be such a shootout that it is impossble to differentiate one team from the other.

I have not made a decision here, but I advise everyone not to overthink this matchup.

I will go with logic and my gut. Sucka Bet it may be, but I have UH +1...

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:00:15 PM

Tulsa mite have the worst pass defense that i have watched all year so for the line to swing from a dog to a favorite vs maybe the most pass proficient offense in the land is yes fishy. You can throw any stat you want at me i had Tulsa plus the points vs boise and i won but i felt boise could score through the air as long as there was no penalties nor drops at will. Tulsa has to cover this game it makes absolutely no sense. Tulsa will be able to move the ball with ease but something is wrong tulsa has to be the right side....has to be LIP

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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:02:56 AM

Umm...am I missing something here? Do you guys not see that Houston has a worse defense (by far) than Tulsa? Houston gives up 461 yards per game, good for 114th in the country! lip, you say Tulsa might have the worst pass defense that you have watched all year...you must not have watched a Houston game because their pass D actually ranks lower than Tulsa's. That, and they give up 222 rushing yards a friggin game! I mean come on. Tulsa offense runs for 154 a game. Put 2 and 2 together, and Tulsa should be running all over Houston, which keeps Keenum off the field.

I'm not touching this game now that Tulsa is the fav, but all you have to do is look at the stats and you can see why this line only opened at -3 for Houston.

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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:56:15 AM

This post has some of the most intelligent, thought out comments i have read for any game, both sides make excellent points! I wish every game thread could have such justified points instead of peoples asanine opinions with no foundation whatsoever!....I;m thinking its probably best to lay off this one..GL

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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:19:29 AM

Well Sharp are you touching this game bro? Houston is at a pk em now. let me know bud.

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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:43:16 PM

Cougs +1 now.

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Posted: 11/4/2009 4:50:30 PM

With this line movement, Im loving Tulsa. Crazy crazy crazy

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Posted: 11/4/2009 5:22:10 PM

couldnt be more confused by this line. the numbers simply point to the fact that this is going to be a track meet, and in the end houston will be ahead. i will be stunned if its not something like 45-35 houston

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Posted: 11/4/2009 6:13:48 PM

Tulsa is a mess. I don't get this line. Tulsa's QB got a concussion last week yet is slated to start this game. SMU had a freshman QB make his 1st start vs Tulsa and threw for 350 + yards last week. They have O-line issues. Their Guru OC left in the off season which has seriously hurt their offensive creativity. Other than a very lucky back door cover against Boise, Tulsa has been awful lately losing SU while they were favored against SMU & UTEP. I'm not buying the revenge angle. I can understand Oregon feeling all gitty and losing to Stanford. However Tulsa Stinks. HOUSTON WINS BIG!

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Posted: 11/4/2009 8:16:04 PM

Look at it this way: Last year Tulsa was -3.5 @ Houston.
Heavy action on Tulsa (lost 70-30). Now handicap that line, based on the results below:

This year it's the same spot only with Houston.

Lay off.

Nov 15, 2008	Houston, Texas	Houston 70 Tulsa 30	Box score
Nov 8, 2008	Houston, Texas	Houston 42, Tulane 14	Box score
Oct 28, 2008	Huntington, WV	Marshall 37, Houston 23	Box score
Oct 18, 2008	Dallas, Texas	Houston 44, SMU 38	Box score
Oct 8, 2008	Houston, Texas	Houston 45, UAB 20	Box score
Sep 27, 2008	Greenville, N.C.	Houston 41, East Carolina 24	Box score
Sep 20, 2008	Fort Collins, Colo.	Colorado State 28, Houston 25	Box score
Sep 13, 2008	Dallas, Texas	Air Force 31, Houston 28	Box score
Sep 6, 2008	Stillwater, Okla.	Oklahoma State 56, Houston 37	Box score
Aug 30, 2008	Houston, Texas	Houston 55, Southern 3	Box score

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Posted: 11/4/2009 8:16:25 PM

at UAB	W 45-22	1-0 (1-0)
at North Texas	W 56-26	2-0 (1-0)
New Mexico	W 56-14	3-0 (1-0)
Central Arkansas	W 62-34	4-0 (1-0)
Rice	W 63-28	5-0 (2-0)
at Southern Methodist	W 37-31	6-0 (3-0)
UTEP	W 77-35	7-0 (4-0)
UCF	W 49-19	8-0 (5-0)
at Arkansas	L 30-23