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Posted: 11/9/2008 3:51:29 AM

Away:  Cincinnati [4-4 ATS]
Home:  Louisville [4-4 ATS]

Game Time: 8:00 PM
Stadium: Papa John's Cardinal Stadium

Recent Meetings:
10/13/07 - LOU 28 vs. CIN 24
10/14/06 - CIN 17 vs. LOU 23
10/22/05 - LOU 46 vs. CIN 22

Team Leaders:

Cincinnati:
Passing: Tony Pike (1229)
Rushing: Jacob Ramsey (520)
Receiving: Marshwan Gilyard (685)

Louisville:
Passing: Hunter Cantwell (1743)
Rushing: Victor Anderson (914)
Receiving: Doug Beaumont (508)

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Posted: 11/9/2008 3:10:43 PM

Cinci has been playing better with a 4th string,gimp QB than most teams do with their starters.Louisville is....Hell who knows what Louisville is doing anymore.

 

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Posted: 11/9/2008 6:13:34 PM
Cincinnati is - 3.5 wow thats not alot of points vs the Cards that just got blown out at Pitt.
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Posted: 11/9/2008 7:45:40 PM
Cincy can now take the Big East title by beating Louisville and then Pitt (at Cincy). Look for the Bearcats to get ahead early and take down the first step to the championship.

Despite being only 2-for-13 on 3rd down conversions vs West Virginia, Cincy was able to put 20 1st-half points against West Virginia's "acclaimed" defense.

Cincy 1st half (-2.5?)
Probably will hit -4 full game as well.


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Posted: 11/9/2008 8:18:34 PM
I like Louisville big in this game. The reason why  Louisville is coming off a bad lose, they are going to be ready to play Cincy a rank team and they are tough to beat at home especially when they are the underdogs. Also I am going to bet the moneyline on Louisville big. I see this game as upset alert. Plus you are giving me points at home taking Louisville all the way to the bank. GL to all on this game.
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Posted: 11/9/2008 8:37:10 PM
Cincinnati - 23                    Louisville - 17
Bearcats -4            
Cincy not the type of team you like to take as a road fav.
But in this spot you just can't pass it up the way they are playing.
Louisville coming off loses to Syracuse & Pitt. It's the Bearcats for me.
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Posted: 11/10/2008 4:36:31 AM
UL has, at times, played ok at home this year, but after the humiliating defeat atSyracuse then Pitt, they will be hard pressed to get it together against a tough Cincy team that winning with a 4th string QB.  I am leaning heavily on UC at -4 and will for the half as well.  UL playing for bowl eligibility and UC playing for shot at league title=advantage Cincy.
 
Funny how UL has to go to games during the week to get on TV. 
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Posted: 11/11/2008 10:14:58 AM
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Posted: 11/11/2008 11:16:18 PM

Cincy

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Posted: 11/12/2008 12:56:06 PM
 Louisville sucks right? they just lost to Cuse and got killed by Pitt...and Cincy just beat WVU on the road and whooped South Florida recently in primetime! my play is too obvious...Louisville + 3
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Posted: 11/12/2008 2:29:42 PM
I'm gonna go Cincy.  I don't like them, but can't let that get in the way.
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Posted: 11/12/2008 3:03:41 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SCOOPYDEW:

Cincinnati is - 3.5 wow thats not alot of points vs the Cards that just got blown out at Pitt.

shed some more light before game time scoop

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Posted: 11/12/2008 10:02:44 PM
I graduated from UC and we haven't won at Louisville in a while, we playing good and I'm driving down to the game with 3 buddy's.
 
gotta go with my heart here... and I do not like doing that
 
 
we are due to win the KEG OF NAILS!
 
and the big east championship
 
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Posted: 11/13/2008 12:18:48 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tokin33:

shed some more light before game time scoop

What's up Tokin33! This was taken from Phil Steele's website : TURNOVERS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE - The final score shows a 41-7 Pitt win. They benefitted from 5 UL TO’s. The Cardinals actually had a 17-14 FD edge and Pitt only had a 320-299 yd edge. Louisville fmbl’d 2 punts in the 1H. Pitt led 27-7 in the 2H when they got a 3 yd FR for a TD and :50 later an 18 yd IR for a TD to blow it open, 41-7. UL was also SOD twice. Pitt RB LeSean McCoy who had 5 straight games of 142 yards rushing or more actually had negative yardage at one point in the 2H and finished with a career low 39 yds rushing..

I think that I'll be on UL this Friday. As Phil said, the score was misleading...

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Posted: 11/13/2008 11:21:16 AM
thanks xtra, that's some good info as i couldn't watch the game...i suspected the final score was misleading, that's what i'm banking on friday
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Posted: 11/13/2008 1:06:20 PM
Tokin you probably think I always steal your picks lol.  I don't, but it sure isn't a bad idea.

Already dreaming of this one! 

Gonna take Louisville +3.5 for a LARGE sized play
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Posted: 11/13/2008 3:03:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Imprezive97:

Tokin you probably think I always steal your picks lol.  I don't, but it sure isn't a bad idea.

Already dreaming of this one! 

Gonna take Louisville +3.5 for a LARGE sized play
nope, i just understand that we have the same approach...love when you back me up 
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Posted: 11/13/2008 9:57:23 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Imprezive97:

Tokin you probably think I always steal your picks lol.  I don't, but it sure isn't a bad idea.

Already dreaming of this one! 

Gonna take Louisville +3.5 for a LARGE sized play

How large??
$200 -300??
What should I do??
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Posted: 11/13/2008 11:02:59 PM
NO  Cincy will cover... they hungary for a big east title... Last year UL beat us... we not going to let that happen again??
 
UL qb sucks!  Cincy Defense is awesome!!!!
 
TAKE CINCY!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I went big! Cincy -3.5 990 to win 900!!!!!
 
 
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Posted: 11/13/2008 11:58:10 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Xtragr8t:

What's up Tokin33! This was taken from Phil Steele's website : TURNOVERS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE - The final score shows a 41-7 Pitt win. They benefitted from 5 UL TO’s. The Cardinals actually had a 17-14 FD edge and Pitt only had a 320-299 yd edge. Louisville fmbl’d 2 punts in the 1H. Pitt led 27-7 in the 2H when they got a 3 yd FR for a TD and :50 later an 18 yd IR for a TD to blow it open, 41-7. UL was also SOD twice. Pitt RB LeSean McCoy who had 5 straight games of 142 yards rushing or more actually had negative yardage at one point in the 2H and finished with a career low 39 yds rushing..

I think that I'll be on UL this Friday. As Phil said, the score was misleading...



That's some great analysis by Phil, but Cincinnati is good at creating turnovers. So he's basically describing the Bearcats.


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Posted: 11/14/2008 12:43:20 AM
Rain in the forecast?.
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Posted: 11/14/2008 1:39:50 AM
Public seems to be favoring Cincy 65%, gotta roll the other way:

LOU +4.0

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Posted: 11/14/2008 1:56:43 AM

Cincinnati Team Report

Cincinnati has flown beneath the national radar for much of this season. But, following two consecutive victories over top-25 teams, the Bearcats are ranked in both major polls. The endgame is known—win out, and the reward in a BCS bid.

After using four quarterbacks this season, including two redshirt freshmen, the Bearcats are nearly at full strength.

Senior starter Dustin Grutza, out since fracturing his fibula Sept. 6 at Oklahoma, is physically ready to play.

But junior Tony Pike, who returned three weeks ago after missing time with a broken non-throwing arm, will start at Louisville.

The Bearcats are back to business following their euphoric victory in Morgantown, and focusing on the Cardinals.

Kelly doesn’t need to remind the Bearcats that, if they don’t progress one step at a time, someone will trip them up along the way.

“Everybody understands what it takes to win,” said Kelly. “But what it takes to win a championship is mental toughness. Now that we’re into November and we’re a contender, we’ll be able to test our team to see if we have what it takes.”

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Scouting The Offense:  

The Bearcats were shut out in the second half at West Virginia, but did score the winning touchdown on their first possession in overtime on a two-yard touchdown pass from Tony Pike to Kazeem Alli.

Head coach Brian Kelly gave credit to WVU’s defense for taking the air out of the Bearcats’ offense.

But their struggles on third downs continue, ranking last in the Big East in converting just 30 percent.

Penalties continue to haunt them, but UC still leads the conference in passing offense and ranks fourth in total offense.

Scouting The Defense:  

Cincinnati’s defense has found its swagger in recent weeks.

The Bearcats held WVU to just 98 yards rushing, becoming the first team since Virginia Tech in 2001 to limit the Mountaineers to fewer than 100 yards.

The Bearcats also sacked Pat White four times, giving them 13 sacks in the past five games after having just four in the first three games this season.

Cincinnati ranks third in the Big East in rushing defense.

Quote To Note:   “If you could’ve told me we were going to let them score three times and get an onside kick, probably not. At the time, you’re making decisions based on what you’re trying to eliminate. We were trying to eliminate the worst-case scenario, which was a blocked punt. We didn’t have the benefit of hindsight.”—Head coach Brian Kelly on having punter Kevin Huber take an intentional safety, which preceded West Virginia’s 11-point rally in the final 1:11 to tie the score.

Strategy And Personnel

None of UC’s seniors have experienced a victory over Louisville.

Despite leading the all-time series 26-20-1, the Bearcats have dropped five straight to the Cardinals.

“It’s not much of a rivalry if you don’t beat the other team,” said UC head coach Brian Kelly.

“Our seniors know that. This is a rivalry game, but more importantly it’s for the Big East championship.” Louisville won 28-24 last year at Nippert Stadium.

Players To Watch:  

Junior SS Aaron Webster—Earned Big East Defensive Player of the Week honors after recording a career-high 13 tackles, including two tackles for loss at West Virginia.

Junior WR Mardy Gilyard—Ran the opening kickoff at WVU back 100 yards for a touchdown, tying him for the longest in school history. It was Gilyard’s second kickoff return for a touchdown this season, setting a UC record. He is the eighth player in Big East history to return two kicks for touchdowns in a season.

Sophomore K Jake Rogers—A semifinalist for the Lou Groza Award, Rogers missed a 29-yard field-goal attempt, ending a streak of 13 consecutive made dating back to last season. After being benched earlier this season, the much-maligned kicker has reinvented himself in recent weeks. He’s 11-of-12 this season, tied for first in the Big East.

Roster Report:  

• Junior C Chris Jurek, who sprained his ankle Oct. 30 against South Florida, did not start at West Virginia. Sophomore Jason Kelce was at center, and redshirt freshman Alex Hoffman moved to left guard.

• Sophomore WR Armon Binns made his first career start against the Mountaineers.

• If healthy, senior QB Dustin Grutza will move to No. 2 behind Tony Pike on the depth chart this week at Louisville.

Grutza hasn’t played since Sept. 6 at Oklahoma, when he fractured his fibula and suffered a residual high-ankle sprain.

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Posted: 11/14/2008 2:04:16 AM
cincy for sure:-)
 
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Posted: 11/14/2008 2:06:20 AM

Louisville Team Report

 

In the last two weeks, the Louisville offense hasn’t clicked at all.

Though it scored 21 points against Syracuse, it slogged down the field and couldn’t hit a big play.

That continued against Pittsburgh, with the added handicap of more turnovers, dropped passes and killer penalties.

Cincinnati has legitimate BCS dreams, and for Louisville to derail that, the offense will need to do more than spark.

The Cardinals’ bowl hopes rest on Cantwell and crew catching fire down the stretch.

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Scouting The Offense:  

 

Louisville’s offense has turned the ball over 21 times this season, with 12 interceptions and nine lost fumbles.

Five of those turnovers came in last week’s loss to Pittsburgh.

If Hunter Cantwell wants to keep Mike Simms on the bench, he needs to do a better job of valuing the football.

 

Scouting The Defense:  

 

The Cardinals’ defense has been a strength this season, and it stopped the Panthers’ running game for the most part last week.

But the secondary hasn’t been as consistent, and Cincinnati will definitely put that unit to the test.

 

Quote To Note:  

 

“I’m not going to put anybody in for next year, because next year isn’t here. We’re playing in the present. We’re playing to beat Cincinnati this week.”—Louisville coach Steve Kragthorpe told the Louisville Courier-Journal.

 

Strategy And Personnel

 

Louisville has won its last five meetings with its rival from across the Kentucky-Ohio border, but the Bearcats enter this one with a lot of momentum and the Cardinals with none.

A big key to this one will be turnovers; Louisville has had good luck making the Bearcats play sloppy and will need to keep that trend alive while cleaning up its own act to pull off the upset.

Players To Watch:  

WR/PR Doug Beaumont—There’s no way to sugarcoat how bad Beaumont looked last week, as he returned punts like it was his first time playing special teams.

He symbolized a Cardinals attack that looked dazed and confused by the Panthers. If he doesn’t look better this week, he’ll start losing snaps.

QB Hunter Cantwell—He might not lose his job, but Cantwell hasn’t been good enough under center to get the Cardinals where they need to go.

His receivers haven’t done him many favors this season either, but he hasn’t been making it easier on himself in recent weeks by missing open targets.

If he doesn’t step up his level of play, any possibility of a bowl game could soon slip away.

CB Johnny Patrick—Patrick has made some big plays on defense this season, but he gave up a 44-yard touchdown against the Panthers.

Louisville’s secondary sometimes plays like it doesn’t respect the deep ball, and it does so at its peril.

Roster Report:  

• C Eric Woods enters the week in position to set the school record for consecutive games started. His streak is at 46 with three games to play, and the Louisville mark is 48 games.

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