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Posted: 6/10/2013 1:54:08 PM
who will b the favorite jj 5-1 or better   jr. and hamlin have won the most races here over the past 5 years with 2 each... jj has 0 but he hadn't won at pocono since 04 and look what he did yesterday!!!  i will b scared to play a toyota as they r cutting back on power again this week for durability   i would expect carl and biffle to b strong this weekend as they have the 1st and 3rd best average finish here and a win each over the past 5  years...  not sure of any1 i will b on for sure until #'s r posted..  1 sleeper pick could b ambrose both finishes last year were top10's and a top 5 and u know he is really getting pumped up 4 the race the following week at sonoma!!!  how about a call out to jeff burton yesterday almost a top 10 11th    as far as the n.wide can't wait 2 c what cup drivers r running it  will b on kyle and brad if they r both in it hope to get kyle at 3-1 or better...  bol 2 all
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Posted: 6/10/2013 6:01:36 PM
Be interesting to see if the oddsmakers adjust to the toyotas performance, because if kenseth opens at 10-1 or better ill have to play it. Brad will be another 1 ill be looking at.
I just watched or skimmed through last years race and the racing here sucks, after the repave, its not even the same track really. Stop repaving tracks nascar. 
Everyone talked bad about burton last week, then he has his best run in 2 years lol dont you love how that works. Lets see if i can help some other poor sap out...... Danica couldn't finish top 10 at Michigan if she ran her indycar 


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Posted: 6/10/2013 6:37:53 PM
Looks like Kyle,Joey and Menard will be running nationwide this week.
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Posted: 6/10/2013 6:45:42 PM
Will be on 2.  Hoping 20 odds are higher because of lack of HP?  Didnt hurt him too bad sunday.  22 if odds are right
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Posted: 6/10/2013 8:59:33 PM

88 is ready to go to victory lane this week.

As for Burton? Lol....He needs to retire!

 

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Posted: 6/11/2013 5:43:01 PM
I'm on the 88 and The Biff this week
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Posted: 6/11/2013 10:12:13 PM

I need some odds!

Kennseth at 10-1 would be a definite play for me as well cat.

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Posted: 6/11/2013 10:24:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TREE88:

I need some odds!

Kennseth at 10-1 would be a definite play for me as well cat.

        

sportsbook odds 2 follow dimes and thegreek r  as normal lately!!!!  jj 4-1  kk,mk,jr 7-1    kyle,denny 10-1  bk,ts,ce 12-1       kurt,biffle 15-1  (should b higher)        jg,kh 18-1   i will play gordon 4 sure.....    cb,truex 25-1     jl,rn,rs 40-1    jm,mm,juan 65-1     menard,ambrose,almirola 100-1      the 2 petty cars could b worth a quarter play.....      nothing jumps out at me except for gordon 1nce he reaches that 20,25-1 range u have 2 play him just like when stewart's odds got stupid....
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Posted: 6/12/2013 10:00:45 AM
know toyota is saying they r going 2 add some more power to there engines for michigan!!! if i was gibbs i would tell them 2 keep giving them what they were b4!!! i feel kenseth and kyle r n the chase 4 sure go for more wins and the only way hamlin will get in is with 2 wins he has to go 4 broke!!!!  the driver that should b a little worried is bowyer 3rd n points but no wins he cant afford blown engines!!!!
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Posted: 6/12/2013 10:03:33 AM
thegreek finally posted there odds 2 win and some match up's which all suck except for carl-denny even    the books must have known labonte was driving the 51 because we didn't get the match up with him against mears...
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Posted: 6/12/2013 10:18:16 AM
Yeah Im Kinda getting the feeling were making the toyota engine deal out to be a bigger deal than it should be.
I actual like 2 matchups Khane over Jr I will take that every week except plate tracks and Brad over Gordon. 
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Posted: 6/12/2013 7:44:03 PM

I'm all over Jr this week Cat.

I'll take him over the 5 this week as well.

I think Denny at 10-1 is a good play.

Think Gordon is a must play as well at 20-1 or better.

All the less than 10-1 guys I'm out on.

Jim at 4-1 is a joke.. He will not win this race!

 

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Posted: 6/12/2013 7:51:29 PM
Just took Harvick at +1950 for $25
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Posted: 6/12/2013 10:16:11 PM
Jj has never won at Michigan   It is the only track that NASCAR goes to twice a year that he hasn't won at yet!!!!!     Jeff has 1 track  left  tony has 2  and jimmy has 5   If Ambrose hadn't been a dumbasssss and shut his car off going up a hill jimmy probably would have never won a road course!!!!! 
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Posted: 6/12/2013 10:20:54 PM
Few early plays 4 me this weekend!!!  Sprint cup 2 win!!!
Kyle 12-1 
Tony/Carl 14-1
Gordon 18-1 no match ups yet they all suck!!!         N.wide plays 
Kyle 2 win +280
Vickers 2 win 14-1  1 match up vickers-Sadler -110 I would play this match up every week if giving the chance!!!! 
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Posted: 6/13/2013 7:53:09 AM
Decided to stay with the 2 and passing on 20, going with the 5.  hearing Kahne has a bad behind car

I agree about kyle and kenseth.  They are in.  Give them all the HP they want!
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Posted: 6/13/2013 9:12:47 PM
I like the Kyle pick Stats. We haven't heard from him in awhile, and anything 10/1 on Kyle is an auto play for me. Kenseth, Kahne, Kyle and Kes are my picks.
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Posted: 6/13/2013 10:56:40 PM
http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/nascar/2013-06-13/nascar-odds-michigan-sprint-cup-race-jimmie-johnson-carl-edwards-earnhardt-jr

Little pre race odds talk, but the main reason im posting this is look at what the mgm is offering on khane and carl compared to lvh or even dimes
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Posted: 6/13/2013 10:58:01 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

I like the Kyle pick Stats. We haven't heard from him in awhile, and anything 10/1 on Kyle is an auto play for me. Kenseth, Kahne, Kyle and Kes are my picks.
 damm u sure like the group boys this week!!!   Bol buddy 
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Posted: 6/14/2013 8:26:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TREE88:

I'm all over Jr this week Cat.

I'll take him over the 5 this week as well.

I think Denny at 10-1 is a good play.

Think Gordon is a must play as well at 20-1 or better.

All the less than 10-1 guys I'm out on.

Jim at 4-1 is a joke.. He will not win this race!

 

Agree JJ winning this race is not gonna happen

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Posted: 6/15/2013 1:00:19 AM
Carl on the pole!!!!   Couldn't  really tell who looked good in the early practice... Tomorrow should tell a lot about who is gong to b good in race trim!!! 
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Posted: 6/15/2013 4:03:18 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by stats1:

Few early plays 4 me this weekend!!!  Sprint cup 2 win!!!
Kyle 12-1 
Tony/Carl 14-1
Gordon 18-1 no match ups yet they all suck!!!         N.wide plays 
Kyle 2 win +280
Vickers 2 win 14-1  1 match up vickers-Sadler -110 I would play this match up every week if giving the chance!!!! 
 damm vickers needs 2 get wrecking!!!!    
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Posted: 6/15/2013 10:26:35 PM
The mears vs labonte matchup is up on greek. Im actually going with labonte  The 51 is a better car than the 47 plus he will be plenty  motivated after losing his ride
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Posted: 6/16/2013 12:10:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by catdaddy18:

The mears vs labonte matchup is up on greek. Im actually going with labonte  The 51 is a better car than the 47 plus he will be plenty  motivated after losing his ride


The 51 is better than the 47?  Labonte will be motivated? I don't know if I would put my hard earned on that statement.  Here's a little insight my "insider" gave me.

By the way, my insider is my girlfriends Dad.  He raced Sprint Cars for a living for 25 years.  He knows most of the drivers and crew chiefs on a first name basis, and has raced against some of them.  Here's what he told me about the older drivers:

When drivers get past a certain age, they don't lose ability, or vision, or instinct.  They lose the killer instinct.  Instead of fighting for a top 5, they settle for top 10.  Five years later they don't fight for a top 10, they settle for top 15, etc.  He said that is what is happening to Labonte, and its started to creep in for Mark Martin (the guy is in great shape, but like he said...you can't be a killer forever).  Guys get grandkids, more perspective on life, etc...and all of a sudden motivation goes away. 

His best guess is that Labonte has top 15 talent, but not top 35 motivation, and his team knows it.  The 51 is a temporary solution and he gets a paycheck.

I don't want to scare you away from a wager you feel great about, but that's his point of view.  He's not right all the time, but he's right a lot more than he is wrong.  I'm most likely going to be on Mears, but GL either way Catdaddy. 

Anyway, that's my 2 cents...
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Posted: 6/16/2013 7:35:54 AM
First off I really appreciate your imput, and I completely agree that drivers lose there killer instinct and start settling for spots when they get older. I think gordon even settles sometimes. 

However I do believe the 51 is better than 47 especially at fast race tracks, this is the match up I was really wanting 51 over 47.

This is not a matchup i would look to play every week, I just find hard to believe a human being can not be motivated after losing his ride and try extra hard too outrun his previous ride, and in the process the 13.
Ive looked at how the 51 and 13 compared on big tracks this year, and the 51 has performed better. I look for Bobby to continue that, atleast for week 
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