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#1 Posted: 5/4/2009 5:57:23 PM was anyone at west palm beach dog track this afternnon ? race #13 photo finish for win, between the 3 and the 7 dog
photo clearly showed the 3 dog on the outside with muzzle on the line , the 7 dog on the inside , muzzle a nose from the line
they put the 7 dog up as the winner
i have no bias , just handicapping the pick 3 on the comp , with no money bet on the race , i had actually picked both of these dogs ,
in the pick three so if i had real money on it wouldnt have made a difference they were both 6 to 1 , and i had both dogs
called the racing commision in florida they will be investigating , ive seen thousands of photos in my years , this one wasnt close , was the judge drunk or are my eyes playing tricks on me as someone who does bet this track , i like to see things on the up and up
curious if anyone was at the track today
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#2 Posted: 5/4/2009 6:42:02 PM I wasn't there today, but I love the West Palm Beach Kennel Club. My sister used to live 15 mins from there, I still go down there to my dad's timeshare on Singer Island every March to see the Cardinals in Spring Training in Jupiter and ALWAYs go to the WPBKC. |
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#3 Posted: 5/5/2009 10:52:32 AM
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#4 Posted: 5/5/2009 1:30:38 PM I watched a replay of this race on the web. It didn't have a photo though. To be honest with you, I thought the 7 dog hung on. The dog on the inside. I didn't think the 3 dog got there in time. It was very close though. And that's just eyeballing it on the replay. No photo.
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#5 Posted: 5/5/2009 4:14:07 PM
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#6 Posted: 5/7/2009 7:42:16 AM i thought the 3 got it live ,and on replay but couldnt tell really it was close , it was i saw the photo , i said wow , the 7 dog head down muzzle not on line ,
florida ...the commision of pari mutual , got back to me an investigator who called me , requested the photo for the race he should get the photo today ,thursday , he told me he would let me know what he sees , and send me the photo e mail
i think i saw, what i think i saw , im saying it like this because all the years i watched racing , never see them blow a photo ,ill post it here when i get it |
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#7 Posted: 5/7/2009 10:50:03 AM
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#8 Posted: 5/9/2009 11:53:54 AM here is the link for the replay , havent heard back from the investergator , here is the link for replay with no photo , as you know because of the angle sometimes watching it live and on replay , it looks like the inside dog won , but photo shows that the outside actually won ,
here it does look like the 7 dog maybe just hung on , like i said before , i never questioned the race till i saw the photo , i saw the 7 with head down not touching the line , and the 3 dog flying threw the air with head up ,, the key to my mind was the 7 dog muzzle was not touching the finish line , and i could clearly see a space
lol i probably wrong since they dont blow photos , i still want to see the photo , to prove myself wrong
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#9 Posted: 5/9/2009 12:06:21 PM i just played the reply 10 times trying to pause it right at the finish line , its hard but i got a better look now , and it kinda makes me think i could be right |
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#10 Posted: 5/9/2009 6:23:26 PM
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#11 Posted: 5/9/2009 7:14:02 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by craigchenalpga: I think the 7 got it. I paused it right at the line and looks like the outside dog won.
THE OUTSIDE DOGS THE 3 , YOU MADE MY POINT LOL ...... |
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#12 Posted: 5/9/2009 7:49:22 PM its really hard to stop it at the finish line its at 38 + second not quite 39 , its not frame by frame but i did get it a few times ,and i saw what i saw quickly when they showed the photo ....
unfortunatly when i tryed making a print it came up blank ,........i have stoped it just before the finish and the 3 and 7 was even , as we see the 3 is flying and pases the 7 after the line ,
but if someone has the capabilty to print photo at line like to see it , ....otherwise i guess , we will have to wait for official photo .......i glad i didnt have any money on it , otherwise it would really drive me nuts |
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#13 Posted: 5/9/2009 8:55:10 PM i found the perfect frame , but not able to save picture , its almost at 39 ,
but the key is that there are three lights at the finish line , that are triggered by the dogs , i stoped it perfectly , the top yellow light has come on but the other two are not on yet , thats the best shot at the finish line the pictures is taken at that point , it shows the 3 dog on the outside nipped the 7
.......just like i saw when i did see the photo , cant wait to see official photo |
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#14 Posted: 5/9/2009 9:08:01 PM i think im wrong about the lights they all look on now , try stoping it at the point where their muzzle is paralel to the lights , thats the line ,,,,,,,,if you can stop it at that precise moment , it looks exactly like what i saw when they put up the photo |
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#15 Posted: 5/22/2009 7:02:48 PM
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#17 Posted: 5/22/2009 9:56:33 PM i think so too , salvero , the muzzle on the three dog is not visable ,but knowing how the muzzles extend from the dogs nose , you can assume the 3 dogs was touching the finish line , the think is you can positively see the 7 dogs not touching the line
but you can clearly see the 7 dog was not touching the line , i think the judge blew it , i havent talked to the investagator to see what his take on the photo was ,
but i must say they didnt try to cover anything up , they sent me a photo , then they mailed me a cd of the photo , nothing to gain here the tickets were cashed on the 7 and thrown away on the 3 dog , no way to correct this , just bad publicity , what gain to come out and say this ? ,none really
im sure they either replaced the judge , or are taking their time with looking at photos
i will ask the gentleman from the state of florida buisness and professional regulations , who looked into this , and sent me the photo , what his take on this was , when i first contacted him he told me he would tell me what he saw , he has followed threw on sending me the CD , but no response as of yet what he thought after he saw the photo
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#18 Posted: 5/22/2009 11:31:07 PM not knocking YOU
mysticrich, (you say) that you can positively see the 7 dogs not touching the line and (you say) you can clearly see the 7 dog was not touching the line, that might be true,
look at it again, maybe the white muzzle blended in?
But the kicker IS believe it or not 3 is NOT touching the line at ALL, way shorter than the 7
It’s the feet of the 7 in FRONT of 3’s nose,
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#19 Posted: 5/23/2009 12:03:04 AM
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#20 Posted: 5/23/2009 12:52:59 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Master_Po:
not knocking YOU
mysticrich, (you say) that you can positively see the 7 dogs not touching the line and (you say) you can clearly see the 7 dog was not touching the line, that might be true,
look at it again, maybe the white muzzle blended in?
But the kicker IS believe it or not 3 is NOT touching the line at ALL, way shorter than the 7
It’s the feet of the 7 in FRONT of 3’s nose,
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"Never assume that because a man has no eyes, he cannot see."
i disagree i see the 7 dogs head down and muzzle not touching the line , i owned raced and train dogs years ago , put lots of racing muzzles on them , i know what you are seeing on the three dog, is the image of the muzzle missing , if you watch the replays look for both dogs shadow , you will see the the three dog at the finish is ahead
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#21 Posted: 5/23/2009 1:01:14 AM also master po forget about the feet of the 7
photos are determined by the muzzle of the dog , i hear what your saying about the white blending in . and thats what happened with the 3 dog , i know what the extension of what the muzzle should be on the three , thats whats being blended in white , and we are not seeing , i know the extension of the muzzle we should be seeing , with the 3 dogs head flying up |
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#22 Posted: 5/23/2009 8:20:57 AM I love this...CSI Dog Track! |
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#23 Posted: 5/23/2009 10:07:35 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:
also master po forget about the feet of the 7
photos are determined by the muzzle of the dog ,
oh, now i know the meaning of when they say give me $20 on the NOSE
(i disagree i see the 7 dogs head down and muzzle not touching the line) this could be true
i still think the 3 is way short, just look at the photo from the link you gave, put your or anybodys else's(in forum) nose on the line and sit back in chair
Who said a picture is worth a Thousand words
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#24 Posted: 5/23/2009 10:13:27 AM the 7's feet are thru the line at 3's nose  |
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#25 Posted: 5/23/2009 6:29:03 PM to say this photo is ambigious is an understatement , i dont understand why we dont have better contrast in this photo finish, to see the muzzles , , but you have to agree its the 3 dogs muzzle that is missing ,i tryed blowing the photo up between 300% and 400% what becomes clearer is the space between the finish line and the 7 dogs muzzle , you can see a mass of black or white on where the 3 dogs muzzle should be and this is touching the line and beyond
ps ,,,po you know that the 7 dogs legs are irrelevant , lol
i wish we could see the shadow of the 3 dog
im glad i didnt have money on the race , because its driving me crazy enough without having anything on it , lol  |
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