SU winners: 22 OT record: 7-2 Record on the open: 32-26-1 Winners because of the Open: 4 Losers because of the Open: 1 Pushes because of the Open: 1
Notes: -One of the toughest losses I've had this season, would still make that Iowa State play with my last dime -Now the 2nd OT loss of the season, first one with a dog, but #2 with ISU when they had leads in the final seconds. -Officiating was horrendous both ways even causing Bill Self to get a T in the first few minutes. I feel like they stole the game from the Cyclones late in calling a foul on the wrong player allowing Withey to stay in the game to tip a rebound to Elijah Johnson who ended up getting fouled and sending the game to OT where the 'Clones were without their top rebounder (as KU should have been) -The 3pt shots were there and up 5 with :47 left is a tough beat to stomach, especially when holding a +1.5 ticket, but ISU has really struggled closing games as they lost both to KU and another I previously mentioned in Austin against my alma-mater -Nova is a joke that shouldn't even be on the bubble, but the UL and Cuse wins are enough to maybe get them in the tournament even with the disastrous collapse at The Rock tonight. Another good win (they will have opportunities at MSG as well) will probably get them in because the bubble is 30-deep -Nova's win over the 'Cuse win looks worse as they collapsed in Milwaukee, but now Nova's win over MU on Saturday looks that much more impressive
Guesses: Bama 11 IND 2 MEM 2.5 UF 9 WIS 16 FSU 6 AFA 5.5
leans: MINN +6
on the radar: FSU -5.5 (won't play anything more than 3)
...likely a day off, hopefully sleep will let me forget this one
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SU winners: 22 OT record: 7-2 Record on the open: 32-26-1 Winners because of the Open: 4 Losers because of the Open: 1 Pushes because of the Open: 1
Notes: -One of the toughest losses I've had this season, would still make that Iowa State play with my last dime -Now the 2nd OT loss of the season, first one with a dog, but #2 with ISU when they had leads in the final seconds. -Officiating was horrendous both ways even causing Bill Self to get a T in the first few minutes. I feel like they stole the game from the Cyclones late in calling a foul on the wrong player allowing Withey to stay in the game to tip a rebound to Elijah Johnson who ended up getting fouled and sending the game to OT where the 'Clones were without their top rebounder (as KU should have been) -The 3pt shots were there and up 5 with :47 left is a tough beat to stomach, especially when holding a +1.5 ticket, but ISU has really struggled closing games as they lost both to KU and another I previously mentioned in Austin against my alma-mater -Nova is a joke that shouldn't even be on the bubble, but the UL and Cuse wins are enough to maybe get them in the tournament even with the disastrous collapse at The Rock tonight. Another good win (they will have opportunities at MSG as well) will probably get them in because the bubble is 30-deep -Nova's win over the 'Cuse win looks worse as they collapsed in Milwaukee, but now Nova's win over MU on Saturday looks that much more impressive
Guesses: Bama 11 IND 2 MEM 2.5 UF 9 WIS 16 FSU 6 AFA 5.5
leans: MINN +6
on the radar: FSU -5.5 (won't play anything more than 3)
...likely a day off, hopefully sleep will let me forget this one
That no call on an obv charging foul by Kansas completely destroyed the ISU momentum and lost the game.
You could show that charging no-call foul to trainee refs as a classic definition of a charge.
No refs had the balls to call what has to be called. If it wasn't a charge..then it must be a blocking foul...right? It has to be something.
Why even have refs then?
Right. To not call the charge then call the bs foul on the ground was just ridiculous.
I would have loved Tharpe trying the game-winner from beyond the arc with either +1.5 bound to hit or a SU win when it clanked off the back rim (more likely). Just sucks because that was a winner and it should have gotten me on my late-February-into-March tear
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Quote Originally Posted by Vituperate:
That no call on an obv charging foul by Kansas completely destroyed the ISU momentum and lost the game.
You could show that charging no-call foul to trainee refs as a classic definition of a charge.
No refs had the balls to call what has to be called. If it wasn't a charge..then it must be a blocking foul...right? It has to be something.
Why even have refs then?
Right. To not call the charge then call the bs foul on the ground was just ridiculous.
I would have loved Tharpe trying the game-winner from beyond the arc with either +1.5 bound to hit or a SU win when it clanked off the back rim (more likely). Just sucks because that was a winner and it should have gotten me on my late-February-into-March tear
Can you believe Florida is favored at Tennessee, the way McRae and Golden shot the ball recently?
Is the line basically saying that Young is going to own Stokes inside?
Was wondering where you went Muggsy, but you're legitimately crazy if you though Tennessee should be favored. Hope you played it cuz they may win this one, but I'm rooting for UF to escape for my future and their #1 seed cause. Can't afford another damn road loss to an inferior team
Aay, docter-- sorry I had nothing today as Minnesota not only covered but won SU. Think I'll have more than just Ohio tomorrow...
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Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:
Can you believe Florida is favored at Tennessee, the way McRae and Golden shot the ball recently?
Is the line basically saying that Young is going to own Stokes inside?
Was wondering where you went Muggsy, but you're legitimately crazy if you though Tennessee should be favored. Hope you played it cuz they may win this one, but I'm rooting for UF to escape for my future and their #1 seed cause. Can't afford another damn road loss to an inferior team
Aay, docter-- sorry I had nothing today as Minnesota not only covered but won SU. Think I'll have more than just Ohio tomorrow...
SU winners: 22 OT record: 7-2 Record on the open: 32-26-1 Winners because of the Open: 4 Losers because of the Open: 1 Pushes because of the Open: 1
Notes: -The top teams are starting to embarrass themselves with all the road losses. Gonzaga hitting #1 would be great because they are overrated as garbage, but still a quality team. Gonna look hard at BYU on Thursday -Not happy Florida lost, even with such a small rotation they just settle for too many damn 3s and that sucks on the road. They could have been the #1 overall seed and instead with the bad losses (albeit tough environments) are setting themselves up to be in Indiana's bracket in Indianapolis and that will be a disaster even with 14/1 -If you haven't seen Ryan Evans from Wisconsin jumpshooting FTs, you need to check out some highlights from tonight -Add Memphis to the list of teams who don't deserve to get in the tournament, even though they won 18 straight heading into tonight and look like an easy winner in the C-USA
Guesses: MICH 14.5 Ohio 2 GTown 3.5 OkSt 13 Pitt 17 MIAfl 21 UNCC 2 ARK 1 WVU 0 NCSU 13 WICH 14 UMD 1 UK 24 SLU 11 Iowa 7 CSU 18 Vandy 5 LOU 15 OU 1 Ole Miss 8.5 ARI 8.5 UNM 7 STAN 4 Ucla 9
leans: WVU +1.5
on the radar: GT pk
locked in: Ohio -2 (-110) vs. Akron
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SU winners: 22 OT record: 7-2 Record on the open: 32-26-1 Winners because of the Open: 4 Losers because of the Open: 1 Pushes because of the Open: 1
Notes: -The top teams are starting to embarrass themselves with all the road losses. Gonzaga hitting #1 would be great because they are overrated as garbage, but still a quality team. Gonna look hard at BYU on Thursday -Not happy Florida lost, even with such a small rotation they just settle for too many damn 3s and that sucks on the road. They could have been the #1 overall seed and instead with the bad losses (albeit tough environments) are setting themselves up to be in Indiana's bracket in Indianapolis and that will be a disaster even with 14/1 -If you haven't seen Ryan Evans from Wisconsin jumpshooting FTs, you need to check out some highlights from tonight -Add Memphis to the list of teams who don't deserve to get in the tournament, even though they won 18 straight heading into tonight and look like an easy winner in the C-USA
Guesses: MICH 14.5 Ohio 2 GTown 3.5 OkSt 13 Pitt 17 MIAfl 21 UNCC 2 ARK 1 WVU 0 NCSU 13 WICH 14 UMD 1 UK 24 SLU 11 Iowa 7 CSU 18 Vandy 5 LOU 15 OU 1 Ole Miss 8.5 ARI 8.5 UNM 7 STAN 4 Ucla 9
Love following your threads, good info.... stupid question: can you define the difference between "leans" and "on the radar" ?
Im def liking Ohio tonight. I hope it can drop to -3 or -2.5 by gametime.... The only worry I have is the first game there was such a huge rebounding disparity which lead to many 2nd chance oppurtuniities for Akron.... I'm not sure Ohio improved their rebounding, but hopefully homecourt can at least cause those Akron players to see the rim just a little bit smaller than normal....
Good Luck!
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GWarner,
Love following your threads, good info.... stupid question: can you define the difference between "leans" and "on the radar" ?
Im def liking Ohio tonight. I hope it can drop to -3 or -2.5 by gametime.... The only worry I have is the first game there was such a huge rebounding disparity which lead to many 2nd chance oppurtuniities for Akron.... I'm not sure Ohio improved their rebounding, but hopefully homecourt can at least cause those Akron players to see the rim just a little bit smaller than normal....
Was wondering where you went Muggsy, but you're legitimately crazy if you though Tennessee should be favored. Hope you played it cuz they may win this one, but I'm rooting for UF to escape for my future and their #1 seed cause. Can't afford another damn road loss to an inferior team
Aay, docter-- sorry I had nothing today as Minnesota not only covered but won SU. Think I'll have more than just Ohio tomorrow...
Yes, I'm dazed from a concussion - just like Will Yguette two of the last three times Florida lost to Tennessee - consecutive games too.
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Quote Originally Posted by GWarner27:
Was wondering where you went Muggsy, but you're legitimately crazy if you though Tennessee should be favored. Hope you played it cuz they may win this one, but I'm rooting for UF to escape for my future and their #1 seed cause. Can't afford another damn road loss to an inferior team
Aay, docter-- sorry I had nothing today as Minnesota not only covered but won SU. Think I'll have more than just Ohio tomorrow...
Yes, I'm dazed from a concussion - just like Will Yguette two of the last three times Florida lost to Tennessee - consecutive games too.
Love following your threads, good info.... stupid question: can you define the difference between "leans" and "on the radar" ?
Im def liking Ohio tonight. I hope it can drop to -3 or -2.5 by gametime.... The only worry I have is the first game there was such a huge rebounding disparity which lead to many 2nd chance oppurtuniities for Akron.... I'm not sure Ohio improved their rebounding, but hopefully homecourt can at least cause those Akron players to see the rim just a little bit smaller than normal....
Good Luck!
Thanks for the kudos and the well-wishes, leans are the closest to being plays while "on the radar" means I likely need some movement to get them on the lean level for a potential play.
Updated leans:
Wvu +1
Vt +16.5
Ohio reasoning:
-Faded the Bobcats after I had them @Memphis when they got smashed. They are similar to Iowa State in that they have a versatile lineup that depends upon the jumpshot. I don't like those types of teams on the road because distance shots are unreliable away, but the Bobcats are at home and this is a huge game for them. The first meeting @Akron was a loss and I'm not sure it was undeserved as rebounding may be the most important stat in the game, but I would expect a few more OU shots to drop here while a few more of Akron's should rim out. The Cats should be better on the boards, but I don't expect them to fix the problem as they have a lineup full of perimeter players. This will either put 7-footer Zeke Marshall on the bench, or force him into tough matchups away from the basket. Basically Akron's biggest asset is a disadvantage here and i think it'll lead to an OU win.
...I hate laying more than a possession so I would not play this higher than 3. Do not believe in buying points either, so if you can't get 3 let it go
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Quote Originally Posted by Fools_Gold:
GWarner,
Love following your threads, good info.... stupid question: can you define the difference between "leans" and "on the radar" ?
Im def liking Ohio tonight. I hope it can drop to -3 or -2.5 by gametime.... The only worry I have is the first game there was such a huge rebounding disparity which lead to many 2nd chance oppurtuniities for Akron.... I'm not sure Ohio improved their rebounding, but hopefully homecourt can at least cause those Akron players to see the rim just a little bit smaller than normal....
Good Luck!
Thanks for the kudos and the well-wishes, leans are the closest to being plays while "on the radar" means I likely need some movement to get them on the lean level for a potential play.
Updated leans:
Wvu +1
Vt +16.5
Ohio reasoning:
-Faded the Bobcats after I had them @Memphis when they got smashed. They are similar to Iowa State in that they have a versatile lineup that depends upon the jumpshot. I don't like those types of teams on the road because distance shots are unreliable away, but the Bobcats are at home and this is a huge game for them. The first meeting @Akron was a loss and I'm not sure it was undeserved as rebounding may be the most important stat in the game, but I would expect a few more OU shots to drop here while a few more of Akron's should rim out. The Cats should be better on the boards, but I don't expect them to fix the problem as they have a lineup full of perimeter players. This will either put 7-footer Zeke Marshall on the bench, or force him into tough matchups away from the basket. Basically Akron's biggest asset is a disadvantage here and i think it'll lead to an OU win.
...I hate laying more than a possession so I would not play this higher than 3. Do not believe in buying points either, so if you can't get 3 let it go
-It's that time of year where bad teams beat ones who need W's to get in the tournament and this is one here. WVU has been bad offensively all year long and just never seemed to find a rhythm. I'm not sure they do it tonight, but Baylor has been one of the worst road teams in the Big XII since I was at a member school and it continues tonight. The Bears clearly are better and clearly are the only team in this matchup that has a chance to dance, but they don't defend well and their coach isn't an in-game talent. Huggins on the other side gets a lot out of his kids and most of that comes on the defensive end. The Bears will struggle on the glass with a Huggy-bear team and Isaiah Austin's normal mismatch won't be there tonight when he matches up with Aaric Murray. Murray has been in doghouses for his entire career at La Salle and this year in Morgantown, but it's because of his talent and versatility. I think he can defend Austin on the outside while Kilicli can use his strength with bulky F Cory Jefferson and Gathers off the bench. On the perimeter I worry about Pierre Jackson and Brady Heslip, but the 'Neers have a ton of depth to throw at them. The HCA in Morgantown is always good, plus this Baylor squad has never been there before and it's a very long trip. Funny to note that these were my 2nd and 3rd place finishers preseason. Oops
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West Virginia +1.5 (-110) vs. Baylor
-It's that time of year where bad teams beat ones who need W's to get in the tournament and this is one here. WVU has been bad offensively all year long and just never seemed to find a rhythm. I'm not sure they do it tonight, but Baylor has been one of the worst road teams in the Big XII since I was at a member school and it continues tonight. The Bears clearly are better and clearly are the only team in this matchup that has a chance to dance, but they don't defend well and their coach isn't an in-game talent. Huggins on the other side gets a lot out of his kids and most of that comes on the defensive end. The Bears will struggle on the glass with a Huggy-bear team and Isaiah Austin's normal mismatch won't be there tonight when he matches up with Aaric Murray. Murray has been in doghouses for his entire career at La Salle and this year in Morgantown, but it's because of his talent and versatility. I think he can defend Austin on the outside while Kilicli can use his strength with bulky F Cory Jefferson and Gathers off the bench. On the perimeter I worry about Pierre Jackson and Brady Heslip, but the 'Neers have a ton of depth to throw at them. The HCA in Morgantown is always good, plus this Baylor squad has never been there before and it's a very long trip. Funny to note that these were my 2nd and 3rd place finishers preseason. Oops
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