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Posted: 3/18/2012 1:38:29 AM
I  can use some advice from my fellow degenerates....Things havent been good.. I have a $5,000 balance for the week. Lately I have not been doing good and have been guilty of trying to chase money with no luck.. My bets started at $50  and after a little they were at 1OO, Then after another two losses i would bet 200.. All athe way up to $500 on  two or three large plays  which allll lost Seems my record i'snt bad overall but EVERY big play i made was a looser and totally screwed me over..
How much does everybody recommend I use so i dont  get carried away again.. Should I stay at no more that 50 per play and the ocassional $100 on something i really feel strongly about and never ever try and chase a bad week with bigger bets again??? Im sure we have all done it.. But any comments or advice is welcome and really appreciated.   Thanks.. hope your weeks goin better than mine haha...
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Posted: 3/18/2012 1:56:22 AM
bro.. first you look at the odd/spread yourself. choose the best ones that you like for the day.. do your own research.. see what people have to say at the covers forum.. follow the good cappers and see what their input is.. then place your bet..

honestly, scared money dont make any money and thats true... you also have to have the patience and control to not chase.. that's when you lose the most.. and if you are worried about money.. make smart hedging decisions.. bc you would rather be up by a small amount rather than lose everything.. best of luck to you
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Posted: 3/18/2012 2:02:12 AM
Thanks for the advice bing.. patience really is key.. and something i need to work on.
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Posted: 3/18/2012 2:06:32 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by smokebugsy:

I  can use some advice from my fellow degenerates....Things havent been good.. I have a $5,000 balance for the week. Lately I have not been doing good and have been guilty of trying to chase money with no luck.. My bets started at $50  and after a little they were at 1OO, Then after another two losses i would bet 200.. All athe way up to $500 on  two or three large plays  which allll lost Seems my record i'snt bad overall but EVERY big play i made was a looser and totally screwed me over..
How much does everybody recommend I use so i dont  get carried away again.. Should I stay at no more that 50 per play and the ocassional $100 on something i really feel strongly about and never ever try and chase a bad week with bigger bets again??? Im sure we have all done it.. But any comments or advice is welcome and really appreciated.   Thanks.. hope your weeks goin better than mine haha...


1 piece of advice that will pay off for you.  Look at your bets when you chase.  If you really look at it, I bet you bet less money on games you like then you do chasing.  That right there is a huge thing you need to realize.  If you would bet 100 or 200 on a chase bet.  How about make that kind of bet on a game that you really love?

Just remember that desperate feeling you have when you have just lost, and use that feeling of free willing when your actually winning and up to really cash in.  Seems like people free will when they are down and desperate.  But when people are winning they bet small amounts.  Just a few thoughts.


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Posted: 3/18/2012 2:19:07 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ATLGettinPaper:



1 piece of advice that will pay off for you.  Look at your bets when you chase.  If you really look at it, I bet you bet less money on games you like then you do chasing.  That right there is a huge thing you need to realize.  If you would bet 100 or 200 on a chase bet.  How about make that kind of bet on a game that you really love?

Just remember that desperate feeling you have when you have just lost, and use that feeling of free willing when your actually winning and up to really cash in.  Seems like people free will when they are down and desperate.  But when people are winning they bet small amounts.  Just a few thoughts.






Completely Agree with you. ATL.. Thanks... I caught myself doing exactly this yesterday.. I felt very confident with that nc state game but only pulled the trigger for 200  and it won.. I took my winning and tried to double up on the next game which i really didnt know much about and that confident bet was for no reason,, Very good point atl.
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Sports Betting Money Management
Bankroll Management - How to keep yourself in the game

IN THIS ARTICLE...
  • Why the house usually wins (it's not what you think!)
  • Wunderdog's law of sports betting
  • How to avoid going broke
  • How to manage your sports betting bankroll to win

You are betting too much on each game! How can I say that without even knowing you? Because I've been doing this for a long time and have spent a lot of time understanding money management. 99% of sports bettors are betting too much. Think not? Think again.

Would you "bet" 25% of your entire retirement account on a single stock that had a 40% chance of going to $0 tomorrow? Of course not. The reason is that variance can wipe you out. Then why are so many sports bettors willing to risk 20%+ of their bankroll on a single game? It's easy to risk too much without knowing it. Please read on to see why...

"I've been a member for about two months. I started off with an investment of $700. I subscribe to the NHL, CBB and Parlay services. Right off the bat, I read your money management advice and stuck to your guidelines. My account grew from $700 to $2800 in that short period of time! Now here is the point of my e-mail. Two days ago I decided to get greedy and bet more than the suggested 5% of my bank roll. Guess what? Within one day my investment dropped to $1400. Then I went back to your investment stradegy and I'm back to $1800 plus. Your advice is dead on and I appreciate the fact that you all took the time to even have this on your website. Keep on the great work buddy." Chris H. Homewood, CA

A Simple Proposition - Would you take it?
If I offered you a 10% advantage in a game of chance (55% for you vs. 45%) for 500 bets, would you take that bet? Of course you would. Over the long haul (500 bets), the law of large numbers dictates that you would end up very close to 55% winners (275 winners vs. 225 losers). If we were betting $100 per bet, you'd be up about $5,000 in the end. Easy money.

Now let's say that I had one constraint. I told you you could start with no more than $500 (your bankroll) and if you ran out of money, you couldn't re-load. In essence, I was forcing you to bet 20% of your bankroll on each bet. Would you still take it? Think you could still take me for $5,000?

You had better not! You are virtually guaranteed to go bankrupt in this situation. Over the long haul, you will come close to 55% winners - it's a mathematical certainty. But, over the short term, you are guaranteed nothing. Strange streaks will happen. They always do. Over 500 bets, you could easily go 5 or 10 bets in a row (or even more) without winning. You could go 2-18 during a 500 bet session. If I forced you to bet 20% of your bankroll, you'd be crazy to do it because I would take your money like taking candy from a baby.

Yet, in sports betting, most bettors routinely do the equivalent of taking this bet! Almost every sports bettor bets too much per game relative to the size of their bankroll. They don't think twice about laying half of their entire remaining bankroll on one week's NFL games. The conclusion is this...

Why The House Wins
Based on my nearly two decades of sports betting experience, I view this as the most valuable "secret" there is:

THE HOUSE WINS BECAUSE YOU BET TOO MUCH PER GAME.

You run out of money before you have a chance to let the law of large numbers work for you. They are banking on your lack of discipline. That's the main reason (not bad picking) that most sports bettors lose and why The House laughs to the bank.

Check out this story as an illustration...

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A Tale of Two Sports Bettors

Risky John and Conservative Bob each started the season with $1000 - their bankroll. They both decided to play the same games throughout the season but they couldn't agree on how much to place on each game. John was more of a risk taker than Bob so John decided to bet about $200 per game (20% of his bankroll). Bob was more conservative and decided to risk about $50 per game (5% of his bankroll). Risky John figured that if he bet more, he could win more. And he was right. In week one, their picks went 4-2. John was up $360 while Conservative Bob only won $90. John was very pleased with himself.

Week 2 produced the exact same result. Risky John now had a $1720 bankroll while Conservative Bob was up to just $1180. John was very happy. He encouraged Bob to bet more but Bob wasn't so sure about that strategy. What if their luck started to turn? Risky John preferred to think positively. Besides, they were 8-4 and they knew what they were doing! The first two weeks had proved that.

But then came weeks 3 and 4 in which they went 2-4, 1-3. A bad run for sure, but not uncommon during a 16-week season. In fact, losing streaks are inevitable and guaranteed during a season. Conservative Bob lost $235 while Risky John gave back $940. John now had a lower bankroll than Bob! John was now down to $780. Risky John felt the losing couldn't possibly continue so he stuck with his bet size of $200 per game. The next two weeks they went 2-2 and 1-3.

Guess what? Risky John was now virtually wiped out - down to $280. Bob, meanwhile lost $360 on the terrible four week run but still had $820 left over. One of them was virtually out of money, the other had over 80% of his original bankroll left.

What happened next? Well, John quit. And, the unfortunate four-week run was followed by a great 3-week run where Conservative Bob went 10-3 and another 8 weeks of hitting a very respectable 56% on average. Bob ended up the season at over $1300 - an increase of 30% on his initial bankroll.

The morale of this story is obvious but very few sports bettors practice it. Don't overextend yourself:

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It is very tempting to put down a lot on each game, especially when you are winning. It is relatively boring to put down a little. But, you need to work within your bankroll, whatever that is. There will be bad streaks and good streaks in sports betting. It is inevitable if you do it for any extended period of time. Do yourself the favor of allowing yourself to "stay in the game." Don't miss out on that late-season run of luck because you are out of the game too early.

If your bankroll (amount you have set aside to bet with) is $10,000 and your average bet is more than $300, you are betting too much. If you have $1,000 to bet with and your average bet size is $30, you are betting too much. If your bankroll is $500 and you bet more than $15 per game, you are betting too much.

The silver lining in all of this is that YOU CONTROL THE SINGLE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO LOSING. Let me say that again - regardless of how you pick games or whether someone helps you, you have the ability to erase the single biggest reason you may lose. All you need to do is practice safe money management.

So, how much you should you lay per game?
It depends, of course, on your bankroll (how much you are willing and able to lose over the course of the season). But there is a simple rule that applies regardless of whether you are a ten-dollar per game bettor or a one-thousand-dollar per game bettor: Bet around 2% of your bankroll on average and don't ever bet more than 5% of your bankroll on any given game on which you have even or close to even odds. On rare occassions where you are sure your chance of winning the game is extremely high (i.e. moneyline favorites), a higher % of bankroll is very occassionally warranted. But, for most bets in which you have even odds, 5% is your upper max, and your average needs to stay around 2%. There are no locks. Let me repeat that - there is no such thing as a sure thing. Any bet can lose. Losing streaks can and do happen. Even in a season where you hit 60% overall, you'll have weeks where you hit 40%. It's an absolute certainty.

Can you make money with this strategy? Absolutely. In fact, its required to make money. Without this strategy, you will consistently lose regardless of how well you pick games. If you hit 54-58% (what you should expect), you will lose a lot of money (and maybe even deplete your entire bakroll) if you are betting more than 2% (on average) of your bankroll per game!

If you are winning and on a great roll, your bets can increase and you can win even more. How? You can simply use a percentage of your remaining bankroll. As your bankroll increases, your bet size increases. As your bankroll decreases, your bets decrease. A nice side benefit of this is that, by definition, you can never get wiped out. It is mathematically impossible to lose your entire bankroll if you are always betting a small percentage of it.

The bottom line: Remember, bet around 2% of your bankroll on average per game game. If you aren't as sure on a game, drop it to 1% and if you feel very good about a game, take it up to 3%. For those rare games that you absolutely love, you might go a tad higher but never risk more than 5% under any circumstances.

I rate my picks as 1 to 5 units and I recommend you risk the following:

1 unit - 1% of bankroll
2 units - 2% of bankroll
3 units - 3% of bankroll
4 units - 4% of bankroll
5 units - 5% of bankroll

So, you are always risking between 1% and 5% of your bankroll, and about 2% on average.

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Theirs really only one key to money management and its two words:
                               DONT CHASE!!!
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QUOTE Originally Posted by aznboi711s:

It is very tempting to put down a lot on each game, especially when you are winning. It is relatively boring to put down a little. But, you need to work within your bankroll, whatever that is. There will be bad streaks and good streaks in sports betting. It is inevitable if you do it for any extended period of time. Do yourself the favor of allowing yourself to "stay in the game." Don't miss out on that late-season run of luck because you are out of the game too early.

If your bankroll (amount you have set aside to bet with) is $10,000 and your average bet is more than $300, you are betting too much. If you have $1,000 to bet with and your average bet size is $30, you are betting too much. If your bankroll is $500 and you bet more than $15 per game, you are betting too much.

The silver lining in all of this is that YOU CONTROL THE SINGLE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO LOSING. Let me say that again - regardless of how you pick games or whether someone helps you, you have the ability to erase the single biggest reason you may lose. All you need to do is practice safe money management.

So, how much you should you lay per game?
It depends, of course, on your bankroll (how much you are willing and able to lose over the course of the season). But there is a simple rule that applies regardless of whether you are a ten-dollar per game bettor or a one-thousand-dollar per game bettor: Bet around 2% of your bankroll on average and don't ever bet more than 5% of your bankroll on any given game on which you have even or close to even odds. On rare occassions where you are sure your chance of winning the game is extremely high (i.e. moneyline favorites), a higher % of bankroll is very occassionally warranted. But, for most bets in which you have even odds, 5% is your upper max, and your average needs to stay around 2%. There are no locks. Let me repeat that - there is no such thing as a sure thing. Any bet can lose. Losing streaks can and do happen. Even in a season where you hit 60% overall, you'll have weeks where you hit 40%. It's an absolute certainty.

Can you make money with this strategy? Absolutely. In fact, its required to make money. Without this strategy, you will consistently lose regardless of how well you pick games. If you hit 54-58% (what you should expect), you will lose a lot of money (and maybe even deplete your entire bakroll) if you are betting more than 2% (on average) of your bankroll per game!

If you are winning and on a great roll, your bets can increase and you can win even more. How? You can simply use a percentage of your remaining bankroll. As your bankroll increases, your bet size increases. As your bankroll decreases, your bets decrease. A nice side benefit of this is that, by definition, you can never get wiped out. It is mathematically impossible to lose your entire bankroll if you are always betting a small percentage of it.

The bottom line: Remember, bet around 2% of your bankroll on average per game game. If you aren't as sure on a game, drop it to 1% and if you feel very good about a game, take it up to 3%. For those rare games that you absolutely love, you might go a tad higher but never risk more than 5% under any circumstances.

I rate my picks as 1 to 5 units and I recommend you risk the following:

1 unit - 1% of bankroll
2 units - 2% of bankroll
3 units - 3% of bankroll
4 units - 4% of bankroll
5 units - 5% of bankroll

So, you are always risking between 1% and 5% of your bankroll, and about 2% on average.


 
This is real helpful.. Thank you
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lift up your skirt and find your balls and make a real bet!

$50-$100 is for the sunday school girls. You want to win big then you need to man up and bet big
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