Yesterday: 0-1 (Refs had Syracuse and Sparty didn't play well so it's hard to win when that happens)
Need to research (feel free to add thoughts on any of the below): UVM St. Joe's Evansville TCU Colorado State Boise State
Wednesday thoughts: nova
high teens, bc 1-4 (tough to set), Ville 17-21, st. joe's 8-11, ark 3
1/2-5, evansville 12-16, NE 2-6, ttu 5-7, tulsa 5-7, duke 28-35, mizzou
6-8, uk 6-9, col 5-7, unlv 12-16, cal 6-9, wazzu 1-2 (dogged)
leans: URI -1 ARK +4-- key injury?? Ok St -1 Mizzou -4 UK -5 SDSU -4 Gonzaga +4
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Dogs winning SU: 11
Meaningless 3-pt at the buzzer: 2 OT screwjobs: 1
Yesterday: 0-1 (Refs had Syracuse and Sparty didn't play well so it's hard to win when that happens)
Need to research (feel free to add thoughts on any of the below): UVM St. Joe's Evansville TCU Colorado State Boise State
Wednesday thoughts: nova
high teens, bc 1-4 (tough to set), Ville 17-21, st. joe's 8-11, ark 3
1/2-5, evansville 12-16, NE 2-6, ttu 5-7, tulsa 5-7, duke 28-35, mizzou
6-8, uk 6-9, col 5-7, unlv 12-16, cal 6-9, wazzu 1-2 (dogged)
leans: URI -1 ARK +4-- key injury?? Ok St -1 Mizzou -4 UK -5 SDSU -4 Gonzaga +4
Yesterday: 0-1 (Refs had Syracuse and Sparty didn't play well so it's hard to win when that happens)
Mich St turns the ball over too much, that is why Wash came was close and they have 3 Ls this year. MSU will be in the final 4 again this year, they have a great team. Seems that teams just cant figure out how to break the 2-3 zone outside of the Big East. Cuse was too long for them last night, they played good D.
Good Luck today G
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Yesterday: 0-1 (Refs had Syracuse and Sparty didn't play well so it's hard to win when that happens)
Mich St turns the ball over too much, that is why Wash came was close and they have 3 Ls this year. MSU will be in the final 4 again this year, they have a great team. Seems that teams just cant figure out how to break the 2-3 zone outside of the Big East. Cuse was too long for them last night, they played good D.
No injuries for the Hogs tonight. Michael Sanchez hasn't played all season. Delvon Johnson has been an absolute force. I will gladly take the 4 point offering and play the Pigs.
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No injuries for the Hogs tonight. Michael Sanchez hasn't played all season. Delvon Johnson has been an absolute force. I will gladly take the 4 point offering and play the Pigs.
Yesterday: 0-1 (Refs had Syracuse and Sparty didn't play well so it's hard to win when that happens)
Need to research (feel free to add thoughts on any of the below): UVM St. Joe's Evansville TCU Colorado State Boise State
Wednesday thoughts: nova
high teens, bc 1-4 (tough to set), Ville 17-21, st. joe's 8-11, ark 3
1/2-5, evansville 12-16, NE 2-6, ttu 5-7, tulsa 5-7, duke 28-35, mizzou
6-8, uk 6-9, col 5-7, unlv 12-16, cal 6-9, wazzu 1-2 (dogged)
leans: URI -1 ARK +4-- key injury?? Ok St -1 Mizzou -4 UK -5 SDSU -4 Gonzaga +4
Yeah Jeremy Hazell has been out the last 3 games due to a broken wrist late on that game against Alabama. The Pirates last 3 games without his services they have went 1-2su and 1-2ats with the win against the Peacocks. This line reeks of trap, that being said it's either a Hog play or no play...
No Hog injuries to report...
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Quote Originally Posted by GWarner27:
Dogs winning SU: 11
Meaningless 3-pt at the buzzer: 2 OT screwjobs: 1
Yesterday: 0-1 (Refs had Syracuse and Sparty didn't play well so it's hard to win when that happens)
Need to research (feel free to add thoughts on any of the below): UVM St. Joe's Evansville TCU Colorado State Boise State
Wednesday thoughts: nova
high teens, bc 1-4 (tough to set), Ville 17-21, st. joe's 8-11, ark 3
1/2-5, evansville 12-16, NE 2-6, ttu 5-7, tulsa 5-7, duke 28-35, mizzou
6-8, uk 6-9, col 5-7, unlv 12-16, cal 6-9, wazzu 1-2 (dogged)
leans: URI -1 ARK +4-- key injury?? Ok St -1 Mizzou -4 UK -5 SDSU -4 Gonzaga +4
Yeah Jeremy Hazell has been out the last 3 games due to a broken wrist late on that game against Alabama. The Pirates last 3 games without his services they have went 1-2su and 1-2ats with the win against the Peacocks. This line reeks of trap, that being said it's either a Hog play or no play...
No injuries for the Hogs tonight. Michael Sanchez hasn't played all season. Delvon Johnson has been an absolute force. I will gladly take the 4 point offering and play the Pigs.
PS - The game is in Louisville, KY
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Quote Originally Posted by Hogboy08:
No injuries for the Hogs tonight. Michael Sanchez hasn't played all season. Delvon Johnson has been an absolute force. I will gladly take the 4 point offering and play the Pigs.
I figured you already knew about Hazell. GL if you choose to play
It seems though the books only slipped up on that first game Hazell missed as they were Favs of -2 vs Xavier on a neutral court as Xavier proceeded to handle their business vs the Pirates holding them to just 52 pts even though they only won by 5 having the Pirates favored in that game was a mistake. The books went with the quick fix the very next game against Clemson this time making the Pirates a 3 pt dog in which they failed to cover OT losing by 6 pts yet agian only scoring in the 50's. And the most recent game against @ home aginst the Peacocks they were 10 pt favs covering that spread by 10 pts as the won by 20. I would have to think that catching another under here against a decent opponent without the likes of Hazell is more than capable....
Just my thoughts not trying to high jack your thread Warner...GL
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Quote Originally Posted by Hogboy08:
I figured you already knew about Hazell. GL if you choose to play
It seems though the books only slipped up on that first game Hazell missed as they were Favs of -2 vs Xavier on a neutral court as Xavier proceeded to handle their business vs the Pirates holding them to just 52 pts even though they only won by 5 having the Pirates favored in that game was a mistake. The books went with the quick fix the very next game against Clemson this time making the Pirates a 3 pt dog in which they failed to cover OT losing by 6 pts yet agian only scoring in the 50's. And the most recent game against @ home aginst the Peacocks they were 10 pt favs covering that spread by 10 pts as the won by 20. I would have to think that catching another under here against a decent opponent without the likes of Hazell is more than capable....
Just my thoughts not trying to high jack your thread Warner...GL
add Missouri -4 (-110) vs. Vanderbilt
-I really like this Vandy team, but they are weak at point guard and
that will be a major problem for them against the Missouri pressure. The
Tigers lost a heartbreaker to Georgetown before jumping out to a huge
lead against Oregon until their legs became the issue and they let the
Ducks back into the game. The six days of rest after that close win in
Eugene should get this team healthy and ready to play a full 40 minutes
at their tempo. The tempo should make it very hard for Vandy’s
sharp-shooting duo of Jeffery Taylor and John Jenkins to get in a
rhythm, although they should get their fair share of open shots. The
open shots may come, but the scoring opportunities should come at a
premium because Vandy has a major hole at the point. Brad Tinsley and
Kyle Fuller have been competing for minutes, but they will both have
real problems with the all-out pressure and the big guys should
struggle, too. Festus Ezeli and Steve Tchiengang are scary on the
interior with their shot-blocking ability, but they will be forced to
move a lot tonight and I’m not sure they will be able to sit down low
considering the versatility of Justin Safford and Laurence Bowers.
Safford and Bowers will force the Vandy bigs outside, which will allow
for easy buckets on the interior until the ‘Dores switch to the 2-3
zone. From that point on, Mizzou will use the friendly home rims to make
some perimeter shots. Kim English, Michael Dixon and Marcus Denmon can
all stroke it from deep while the Pressey brothers add an element I
haven’t yet quantified for this team. Basically the Tigers depth will be
a major factor, and the HCA should make this line much higher than
where it currently sits.
San Diego State -4 (-110) @ California
-Cal is one of my “play against” teams, while the Aztecs are one of
my “play on” teams and I will do that whenever I can. The Golden Bears
lost all of their scoring threats and have replaced their studs with
JUCO players that can’t play well against this quality opponent. The
home court should help, but SDSU has the length to make it tough on the
Bears to score and they have the experience not to let the road game in a
tough environment fool them. I prefer SDSU at every position on the
floor, and it’s a mistake to not buy this team when they’re laying a
short number against a team they are so much better than. Coach
Montgomery knows what he’s doing, but Steve Fisher on the other sideline
will have his boys ready for a fight. SDSU is playing for seeding in
the NCAA tournament at this point in the season trying to improve their
non-conference record as much as they can before they compete for a MWC
title (which is a more impressive feat this year than winning the Pac
10), while Cal is trying to learn how to play as a unit. I hate road
chalk, but these teams are in two very different classes and if the
Aztecs bring it tonight they will win handily. If they only play okay
they should win this game by DDs, and even if they play badly they
should still cover this number.
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add Missouri -4 (-110) vs. Vanderbilt
-I really like this Vandy team, but they are weak at point guard and
that will be a major problem for them against the Missouri pressure. The
Tigers lost a heartbreaker to Georgetown before jumping out to a huge
lead against Oregon until their legs became the issue and they let the
Ducks back into the game. The six days of rest after that close win in
Eugene should get this team healthy and ready to play a full 40 minutes
at their tempo. The tempo should make it very hard for Vandy’s
sharp-shooting duo of Jeffery Taylor and John Jenkins to get in a
rhythm, although they should get their fair share of open shots. The
open shots may come, but the scoring opportunities should come at a
premium because Vandy has a major hole at the point. Brad Tinsley and
Kyle Fuller have been competing for minutes, but they will both have
real problems with the all-out pressure and the big guys should
struggle, too. Festus Ezeli and Steve Tchiengang are scary on the
interior with their shot-blocking ability, but they will be forced to
move a lot tonight and I’m not sure they will be able to sit down low
considering the versatility of Justin Safford and Laurence Bowers.
Safford and Bowers will force the Vandy bigs outside, which will allow
for easy buckets on the interior until the ‘Dores switch to the 2-3
zone. From that point on, Mizzou will use the friendly home rims to make
some perimeter shots. Kim English, Michael Dixon and Marcus Denmon can
all stroke it from deep while the Pressey brothers add an element I
haven’t yet quantified for this team. Basically the Tigers depth will be
a major factor, and the HCA should make this line much higher than
where it currently sits.
San Diego State -4 (-110) @ California
-Cal is one of my “play against” teams, while the Aztecs are one of
my “play on” teams and I will do that whenever I can. The Golden Bears
lost all of their scoring threats and have replaced their studs with
JUCO players that can’t play well against this quality opponent. The
home court should help, but SDSU has the length to make it tough on the
Bears to score and they have the experience not to let the road game in a
tough environment fool them. I prefer SDSU at every position on the
floor, and it’s a mistake to not buy this team when they’re laying a
short number against a team they are so much better than. Coach
Montgomery knows what he’s doing, but Steve Fisher on the other sideline
will have his boys ready for a fight. SDSU is playing for seeding in
the NCAA tournament at this point in the season trying to improve their
non-conference record as much as they can before they compete for a MWC
title (which is a more impressive feat this year than winning the Pac
10), while Cal is trying to learn how to play as a unit. I hate road
chalk, but these teams are in two very different classes and if the
Aztecs bring it tonight they will win handily. If they only play okay
they should win this game by DDs, and even if they play badly they
should still cover this number.
Yesterday: 0-1 (Refs had Syracuse and Sparty didn't play well so it's hard to win when that happens)
Mich St turns the ball over too much, that is why Wash came was close and they have 3 Ls this year. MSU will be in the final 4 again this year, they have a great team. Seems that teams just cant figure out how to break the 2-3 zone outside of the Big East. Cuse was too long for them last night, they played good D.
Good Luck today G
They do need to rectify their ball-handling problems, but it's going to be impossible to play well against Syracuse's zone if they can hand-check and rough up the smaller perimeter players that MSU relies upon to succeed. The ticky-tack foul calls on Sparty compared to the egregious stuff that the 'Cuse got away with last night was really unfortunate, but the worst part about the bet was thinking that MSU could shoot well from the perimeter in an NBA gym. That is a mistake I will not make again, but congrats on the win as your boys made their FT and they did whatever they wanted in the paint
shining, Dtown, heat
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Quote Originally Posted by Orangemen44:
Yesterday: 0-1 (Refs had Syracuse and Sparty didn't play well so it's hard to win when that happens)
Mich St turns the ball over too much, that is why Wash came was close and they have 3 Ls this year. MSU will be in the final 4 again this year, they have a great team. Seems that teams just cant figure out how to break the 2-3 zone outside of the Big East. Cuse was too long for them last night, they played good D.
Good Luck today G
They do need to rectify their ball-handling problems, but it's going to be impossible to play well against Syracuse's zone if they can hand-check and rough up the smaller perimeter players that MSU relies upon to succeed. The ticky-tack foul calls on Sparty compared to the egregious stuff that the 'Cuse got away with last night was really unfortunate, but the worst part about the bet was thinking that MSU could shoot well from the perimeter in an NBA gym. That is a mistake I will not make again, but congrats on the win as your boys made their FT and they did whatever they wanted in the paint
How is GW a 7.5 fav???? This game should be a PK.....
Unfortunately, I don't know much about the Towson-GW game, but I do know that it's a pace conflict and a lot of times the home team does whatever they want. I could be way off, but GW has a ton of athletes and a lot of depth so they will push it while Towson will try to slow it down. I imagine the line is higher than you expected because the oddsmakers expect the game will be played at GW's pace and Towson doesn't look like they'll be able to keep up
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Quote Originally Posted by beatthelocal:
How is GW a 7.5 fav???? This game should be a PK.....
Unfortunately, I don't know much about the Towson-GW game, but I do know that it's a pace conflict and a lot of times the home team does whatever they want. I could be way off, but GW has a ton of athletes and a lot of depth so they will push it while Towson will try to slow it down. I imagine the line is higher than you expected because the oddsmakers expect the game will be played at GW's pace and Towson doesn't look like they'll be able to keep up
It seems though the books only slipped up on that first game Hazell missed as they were Favs of -2 vs Xavier on a neutral court as Xavier proceeded to handle their business vs the Pirates holding them to just 52 pts even though they only won by 5 having the Pirates favored in that game was a mistake. The books went with the quick fix the very next game against Clemson this time making the Pirates a 3 pt dog in which they failed to cover OT losing by 6 pts yet agian only scoring in the 50's. And the most recent game against @ home aginst the Peacocks they were 10 pt favs covering that spread by 10 pts as the won by 20. I would have to think that catching another under here against a decent opponent without the likes of Hazell is more than capable....
Just my thoughts not trying to high jack your thread Warner...GL
feel free to post whatever you want in here, especially if it pertains to something I'm looking at for my card...
My read on a Hazell-less Hall is that they can't shoot the basketball. He stretches defenses out and allows for undersized guys like Pope and Robinson to get easy baskets inside. The rest of the team is defensive guards, which won't help them here in a game that probably sees a few points considering how well Arkansas can shoot the ball on the perimeter. Relying on deep shooting away from home is scary, but Rotnei Clarke may be one of those guys that I can trust to put it in the basket. Strongly considering Arkansas even though I lost 1.5 points already...
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Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:
It seems though the books only slipped up on that first game Hazell missed as they were Favs of -2 vs Xavier on a neutral court as Xavier proceeded to handle their business vs the Pirates holding them to just 52 pts even though they only won by 5 having the Pirates favored in that game was a mistake. The books went with the quick fix the very next game against Clemson this time making the Pirates a 3 pt dog in which they failed to cover OT losing by 6 pts yet agian only scoring in the 50's. And the most recent game against @ home aginst the Peacocks they were 10 pt favs covering that spread by 10 pts as the won by 20. I would have to think that catching another under here against a decent opponent without the likes of Hazell is more than capable....
Just my thoughts not trying to high jack your thread Warner...GL
feel free to post whatever you want in here, especially if it pertains to something I'm looking at for my card...
My read on a Hazell-less Hall is that they can't shoot the basketball. He stretches defenses out and allows for undersized guys like Pope and Robinson to get easy baskets inside. The rest of the team is defensive guards, which won't help them here in a game that probably sees a few points considering how well Arkansas can shoot the ball on the perimeter. Relying on deep shooting away from home is scary, but Rotnei Clarke may be one of those guys that I can trust to put it in the basket. Strongly considering Arkansas even though I lost 1.5 points already...
feel free to post whatever you want in here, especially if it pertains to something I'm looking at for my card...
My read on a Hazell-less Hall is that they can't shoot the basketball. He stretches defenses out and allows for undersized guys like Pope and Robinson to get easy baskets inside. The rest of the team is defensive guards, which won't help them here in a game that probably sees a few points considering how well Arkansas can shoot the ball on the perimeter. Relying on deep shooting away from home is scary, but Rotnei Clarke may be one of those guys that I can trust to put it in the basket. Strongly considering Arkansas even though I lost 1.5 points already...
I think the under is the correct play as the since their has been no Hazell the Hall has shot just 37.7% in 3 games with a 3 game total combined average of just 116ppg between them and their opponents. Todays neutral court setting should favor the under again IMO and im quite shocked to see it set in the high 130's...
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Quote Originally Posted by GWarner27:
feel free to post whatever you want in here, especially if it pertains to something I'm looking at for my card...
My read on a Hazell-less Hall is that they can't shoot the basketball. He stretches defenses out and allows for undersized guys like Pope and Robinson to get easy baskets inside. The rest of the team is defensive guards, which won't help them here in a game that probably sees a few points considering how well Arkansas can shoot the ball on the perimeter. Relying on deep shooting away from home is scary, but Rotnei Clarke may be one of those guys that I can trust to put it in the basket. Strongly considering Arkansas even though I lost 1.5 points already...
I think the under is the correct play as the since their has been no Hazell the Hall has shot just 37.7% in 3 games with a 3 game total combined average of just 116ppg between them and their opponents. Todays neutral court setting should favor the under again IMO and im quite shocked to see it set in the high 130's...
I think the under is the correct play as the since their has been no Hazell the Hall has shot just 37.7% in 3 games with a 3 game total combined average of just 116ppg between them and their opponents. Todays neutral court setting should favor the under again IMO and im quite shocked to see it set in the high 130's...
I think that's based off of Arkansas wanting to get out and run at every opportunity, but the neutral court thing usually favors the under when the game's being played at a pro venue instead of a college gym. This doesn't apply here, and I'm not counting it for much other than the fact that it's not a home game for either team
wiz
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Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:
I think the under is the correct play as the since their has been no Hazell the Hall has shot just 37.7% in 3 games with a 3 game total combined average of just 116ppg between them and their opponents. Todays neutral court setting should favor the under again IMO and im quite shocked to see it set in the high 130's...
I think that's based off of Arkansas wanting to get out and run at every opportunity, but the neutral court thing usually favors the under when the game's being played at a pro venue instead of a college gym. This doesn't apply here, and I'm not counting it for much other than the fact that it's not a home game for either team
add Arkansas +2.5 (-103) vs. Seton Hall
-Made Arkansas the favorite here and I really don’t understand the 4
that was thrown out to the point where I didn’t play it wondering if it
would go higher. It didn’t, and I missed the 3 (which is bad on my
part), but I still think the Hogs are the better team here. The game
being in Louisville doesn’t do much for travel from each side, but my
main focus is on Seton Hall’s inability to score points. Senior SG
Jeremy Hazell’s injury is a major problem for the Pirates because their
offense can’t sustain itself without him. He was their clutch shooter
from the perimeter and he was used at the end of games to convert late
leads into victories. Without him, the Hall is left with
defensive-minded guards and undersized forwards. While Arkansas isn’t
the strongest team in the world, they have a deadly shooter in G Rotnei
Clarke who can put the Pirates in big holes quickly if he gets off to a
good start. Head Coach John Pelfrey knows a bit about offense playing
for Eddie Sutton and coaching on his staff along with Billy Donovan’s,
and the screen game he uses for Clarke allows his shooter to get open
looks. On the interior, I’m excited to see what WIU transfer Delvon
Johnson can do tonight against an undersized frontcourt after posting
two double-doubles in his last three games. Johnson, along with Marshawn
Powell, should be able to have some success on the interior against the
Hall and that should keep SHU from getting second chances. The Hogs
should win this game, but I can’t see them getting blown out by a team
that struggles to score. New coach Kevin Willard should realize that
it’s a bad idea to run with Arkansas because that will lead to open
shots for Rotnei Clarke. With a slower-paced game with less
possessions, we will be able to see SHU’s offensive struggles because
they won’t be getting the easy buckets they would in transition. A good
game from Clarke will put the Pirates in a huge hole that I don’t think
they escape. If Clarke doesn’t play well, then the score will be low and
it will make it tough for SHU to close it out considering their poor FT
shooting. Every way I think this game will be competitive with only
Arkansas having the chance to win this game in a blowout, so I’ll ride
the dog that in my mind should be favored by more than a possession.
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doc, oiler
add Arkansas +2.5 (-103) vs. Seton Hall
-Made Arkansas the favorite here and I really don’t understand the 4
that was thrown out to the point where I didn’t play it wondering if it
would go higher. It didn’t, and I missed the 3 (which is bad on my
part), but I still think the Hogs are the better team here. The game
being in Louisville doesn’t do much for travel from each side, but my
main focus is on Seton Hall’s inability to score points. Senior SG
Jeremy Hazell’s injury is a major problem for the Pirates because their
offense can’t sustain itself without him. He was their clutch shooter
from the perimeter and he was used at the end of games to convert late
leads into victories. Without him, the Hall is left with
defensive-minded guards and undersized forwards. While Arkansas isn’t
the strongest team in the world, they have a deadly shooter in G Rotnei
Clarke who can put the Pirates in big holes quickly if he gets off to a
good start. Head Coach John Pelfrey knows a bit about offense playing
for Eddie Sutton and coaching on his staff along with Billy Donovan’s,
and the screen game he uses for Clarke allows his shooter to get open
looks. On the interior, I’m excited to see what WIU transfer Delvon
Johnson can do tonight against an undersized frontcourt after posting
two double-doubles in his last three games. Johnson, along with Marshawn
Powell, should be able to have some success on the interior against the
Hall and that should keep SHU from getting second chances. The Hogs
should win this game, but I can’t see them getting blown out by a team
that struggles to score. New coach Kevin Willard should realize that
it’s a bad idea to run with Arkansas because that will lead to open
shots for Rotnei Clarke. With a slower-paced game with less
possessions, we will be able to see SHU’s offensive struggles because
they won’t be getting the easy buckets they would in transition. A good
game from Clarke will put the Pirates in a huge hole that I don’t think
they escape. If Clarke doesn’t play well, then the score will be low and
it will make it tough for SHU to close it out considering their poor FT
shooting. Every way I think this game will be competitive with only
Arkansas having the chance to win this game in a blowout, so I’ll ride
the dog that in my mind should be favored by more than a possession.
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