Anyone betting on the Kentucky Derby?

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Posted: 5/6/2017 1:42:23 PM
WHEEL ON DERBY-DAY

This Derby will be thrown off track by inclement weather;
something ludicrous can transpire under the Twin Spires.

A sloppy track means there are no really "dominant"
horses one can count on — not in this year's field.

One can play $1 boxes, just cough up the nec. $1026.  
Hey man, it's only happening once a year, so eat it.
Then focus and observe open-mindedly each of the
ponies in the Post Parade => you'll see who looks
the fittest, most composed, relaxed, and happy to run.
Double-Check it's not 1st-time Lasix induced.

Then, you Wheel that horse with the entire field:
1st, 2nd, & 3rd place in a Trifecta-box costing $1026
with the rest of the field's post positions.  
That key horse need only "hit the board" to win —
and with so many entries and a sloppy track
the payout can very well be rather large at that.


One can also do the aforesaid in 50-cent Trifectas,
which cuts the initial outlay in half ($513).

20k yields are not uncommon; 3k's the min. pay.


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Posted: 5/6/2017 2:07:01 PM
my book offers h2h matchups, any good picks ?
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Posted: 5/6/2017 2:15:04 PM
QUOTE
Originally Posted by Pendo:



Rather than doing your Homework...
— Playing with your pud —

"Johnson" as you uniquely like to call it -
at least in the past got you some serious WINNERS:

Sunday Silence, and Real Quiet,
I'll Have Another
Genuine Risk, Go for Gin, and Super Saver



Now, while the thought of a group of women gabbing over mimosas at brunch and one of them shrieks out:
"Oh my GAWD! I was once with this guy in college! He had the tiniest little PENDO you've ever seen!!!" - followed by raucous laughter is hilarious, there's no horse named that. So, since you brought it up, let's look at some other derby winners:

American Pharoah - Yeah, given the right circumstance, I can see that
California Chrome - pretty strong Johnson alias.....
"Big Brown" - C'mon "Big Brown"!
Smarty Jones - implies pain in a pleasurable way.
War Emblem - Prepare for battle, ladies!!
Charismatic - Bond, James Bond.....
Grindstone - might be into some weird stuff....
Lil E. Tee - An alien version of "Pendo"
Unbridled - This guy can't be tamed!


Like I said - I'm going with Thunder Snow, Win/Place

See you all at the finish line with a mint julep!!

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Posted: 5/6/2017 3:29:25 PM
@GMN,

Suppose it could be worse
were the RONDO's square
and not deemed BIG COJONES.

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Posted: 5/6/2017 3:30:57 PM
There's some speed figure metrics out there to capp with:
Beyer, Bris, Equibase, and Timeform, to name but a few.
They each weight + evaluate differently, but in unison
are more productive for comparison intents & purposes.

Beyer, Bris, Equibase, and Timeform — Best #, Last #
Classic Empire:  102, 94;  108, 96;  116, 103;  123, 113.
Irap:  93, 93;  100, 100;  101, 101;  121, 121.
Always Dreaming:  97, 97;  102, 102;  101, 100;  118, 118.
Irish War Cry: 101, 101;  102, 102;  110, 111;  118, 118
Gunnevera:  97, 88;  102, 95;  108, 107;  117, 113.
McCracken:  95, 88;  99, 96;  105, 104;  116, 116.
Gormley: 94, 88;  102, 99;  116, 116;  116, 112.
Tapwrit: 96, 76;  101, 87;  107, 106;  112, 106
Hence:  97, 97;  103, 103;  97, 97;  108, 108.
Patch:  89, 89;  101, 98;  105, 105;  108, 108.
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Posted: 5/6/2017 3:33:41 PM
Graham Motion set up Animal Kingdom to win the Derby in '11,
and he's doing it again with Irish War Cry, the speedster, who won
both of his sprints as a juvenile, including a minor stakes at Laurel
before getting loose on the lead and going wire-to-wire in the
Grade II, Holy Bull held at Gulfstream, breezing over the juvenile
champ Classic Empire (this Derby's odds-on favorite).  Holy Bull
was his first start this year, wherein he controlled a moderate pace.
His Wood Memorial victory was even greater as he cruised early
and then went in the middle stages to take on a very strong pace.

Irish War Cry got the same 101 Beyer Speed Figure in the Wood
that he made in the Holy Bull; most noteworthy b/c the 20 horses
in this Derby-field combined for 129 career starts and yet earned
only four triple-digit Beyers — Irish War Cry's got two of them !!

Only four triple-digit Beyers to be found in last year’s Derby field.
Nyquist & Exaggerator had 1 each => they hit the board one-two.

8 horses in 2015's Derby field ran 16 triple-digit Beyers.
American Pharoah owned four of those himself, dominating that
Kentucky Derby. It stands to reason speed matters, but it isn't all.
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Posted: 5/6/2017 4:55:21 PM
Thunder Snow to beat Untrapped -182.
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Posted: 5/6/2017 7:30:23 PM
 Thunder snow


I wagered on on rodeo horse.
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Posted: 5/7/2017 2:55:27 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

 Thunder snow


I wagered on on rodeo horse.


Now that's funny .......he looked just like one.. having a bucking and bronking fit out there..
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Posted: 5/7/2017 8:52:45 AM
This thread is plush with losers.

Thanks for starting it, scal ... another fine contribution 
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Posted: 5/7/2017 9:09:35 AM
I got Thunder Snowblind in a blind draw..................ugh


"And coming out of chute #2, IT'S THUNDER SNOW!"

My only question is, did the rider stay on the mandatory 8 seconds?
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Posted: 5/7/2017 10:40:47 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:


Scal, you should bet the house on "Looking At Lee"

"WOKKA WOKKA!!!!!"

See Scal, should've listened to me. If you'd of had him to place, you were the big winner of the day. Paid $26.60, best payout on the board.....

Stupid Thunder Snow! 
Blew up on the launching pad....
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Posted: 5/7/2017 12:28:06 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by The Hawk:

I got Thunder Snowblind in a blind draw..................ugh


"And coming out of chute #2, IT'S THUNDER SNOW!"

My only question is, did the rider stay on the mandatory 8 seconds?


Yes but he failed to twirl his arm and shout yeeeehaaaaw

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