Should thier be a gun ownership database?

Question

Right now there is no single database for the United States that lists every registered gun.

Should there be a single federal electronic database that lists every registered gun owned in the United States? Name of owner, date of acquisition, serial number, make, model, caliber, address.

While I am not in favor of Big Brother... I do think that a single electronic database is a good idea.

I do not think President Obama will declare himself King of America and try to disarm the populous.

I do not think North Korea is going to invade America and use gun purchase records to disarm the populous.

I do not think race wars will break out with anarchy taking over and martial law to be declared.

Randisist · Answer

Right now there is no single database for the United States that lists every registered gun.

Should there be a single federal electronic database that lists every registered gun owned in the United States? Name of owner, date of acquisition, serial number, make, model, caliber, address.

While I am not in favor of Big Brother... I do think that a single electronic database is a good idea.

I do not think President Obama will declare himself King of America and try to disarm the populous.

I do not think North Korea is going to invade America and use gun purchase records to disarm the populous.

I do not think race wars will break out with anarchy taking over and martial law to be declared.

HutchEmAll · Answer

I don&#x27;t think the database would add much value.  Someone&#x27;s gun is used for a crime and all they do is say it was stolen or something. It would never even come close to being enough evidence to hold someone accountable.  It would be a small piece of evidence.  I have ZERO problem with background checks.  People cry about invasion of privacy....well, much of everything is a matter of public record.  Most employers require them and no one complains about that.  I know the constitution says we have the right to bare arms.  I personally think it&#x27;s a privilege.

searchwarrant · Answer

The state database barely works in keeping track of firearms. Can't imagine a Federal database being a success.

All for universal background checks but revised checks that include medical history questions are ridiculous. Complete invasion of privacy. Obama is and will fall flat on his face in that dept.

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azrhodes · Answer

No there should not

searchwarrant · Answer

Does Obama realize what he&#x27;s doing to honor those childeren? I respect very much the fact that something needs to be done but what in sh*t is he thinking? The man is creating an entirely new war. Law abiding citizens vs Govt regulation. &#xD;&#xA;Right now I&#x27;m looking at M-4 carbines being sold in the state of California (the hotest gun market in the world) with HC mag conversion kits. People are using FFL licenses to faciiltate the private transfer of guns out of friggin garages. All of this legislation failure is creating a whole new illegal black market, especially on the streets. If you own a basic 380 or 9mm - you surely could sell it off the books for 2.5 x it&#x27;s worth to the wrong person.&#xD;&#xA;Great plan Mr President. Focus on mental health and parental awareness programs ya idiot.

dl36 · Answer

if youre not breaking the law, then you should have nothing to hide

depeche2 · Answer

Do we have databases for automobiles?  Sure.

hotdamn85 · Answer

back in the day before i&#x27;d say all of us were born the gov&#x27;t confiscated everyone&#x27;s gold, unless u were a specific occupation.who says its not going to happen again? this time maybe something else?in other news we have spent over a trillion dollars on the war on public enemy #1. drugs.

captjohn67 · Answer

not no, but hell no

tjohnsont · Answer

Great idea.  Just like there should be a national database for fingerprints.  &#xD;&#xA;Nothing to be paranoid about.

14daroad · Answer

&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;Please list the federal database for automobiles.&#xD;&#xA;And, while you&#x27;re busy not doing that since no such thing exists, please point us to the section in the US constitution articulating your right to drive.&#xD;&#xA;Can&#x27;t wait to read all about this.

14daroad · Answer

I do think that a single electronic database is a good idea. &#xD;&#xA;Why?&#xD;&#xA;What would a database accomplish?

Bluefin · Answer

Lists of citizens the government creates often start out for one purpose and end up being used for another, this is my only fear here.

searchwarrant · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by 14daroad] &#xD;&#xA;I do think that a single electronic database is a good idea. &#xD;&#xA;Why?&#xD;&#xA;What would a database accomplish?&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;It would stop the mentally disturbed lunatics from committing mass murder?

14daroad · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by searchwarrant]  &#xD;&#xA;It would stop the mentally disturbed lunatics from committing mass murder?  [/Quote]Really?How so?

14daroad · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by searchwarrant]  &#xD;&#xA;It would stop the mentally disturbed lunatics from committing mass murder?  [/Quote]Oh, and so to be clear: You support changing HIPPA to ensure that medical records are sent to the ATF and or/FBI, right?I&#x27;d also point out that the incidences of "mentally disturbed lunatics" purchasing firearms and killing people are statistically insignificant, they are so exceedingly rare (people with an extremely complicated mental illness are more likely to harm themselves) So why would we want to send what are currently private medical records to the Federal government?

14daroad · Answer

Here is an article on mental illness and gun purchases:

https://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/why-improving-mental-health-would-do-little-to-end-gun-violence-20130124

Also this article:

"Gun violence is a mental health issue only to a very small extent and to a much smaller extent than most people assume," said Paul Appelbaum, a psychiatrist and the director of the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons' Division of Law, Ethics and Psychiatry.

"Most gun violence is just not committed by people with mental illness," he said. “Were we somehow to stop violence by anyone with a mental illness -- as unlikely as that outcome might be -- we would be safer, but only a teeny bit safer. As much as these incidents attract everybody's attention and concern, they are a tiny fraction of the people who get killed in this country every year."

I'd also note that there already is a database, the NCIS.

I don't think there is a clear understanding about how gun background checks work based on some of the comments here.

14daroad · Answer

Another article for consideration:One reason even experienced psychiatrists are often wrong is that there are only a few clear signs that a person with a mental illness is likely to act violently, says Steven Hoge, a professor of psychiatry at Columbia University. These include a history of violence and a current threat to commit violence.Without either of these, Hoge says, "an accurate assessment of the likelihood of future violence is virtually impossible.""The biggest risk for gun violence is possession of a gun," says Hoge. "And there&#x27;s no evidence that the mentally ill possess guns or commit gun violence at any greater rate than the normal population."https://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/17/169529792/mental-health-gun-laws-unlikely-to-reduce-shootings

searchwarrant · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by 14daroad] &#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;Really?&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;How so?&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Sarcasm. &#xD;&#xA;Nothing the administration is trying to accomplish will have any effect on mass shootings. (That&#x27;s a statistical fact) Upgrading prehistoric mental health awareness and treatment will. Allowing law abiding citizens (nationally) the right to obtain CCL&#x27;s will. Providing firearm(s) to school officials that receive formal training will.........

searchwarrant · Answer

14, I&#x27;m strongly against all of it if you read my posts. You&#x27;re preaching to the choir.

14daroad · Answer

Oh, my mistake - and I had thought so, which is why I was kind of surprised at your reply.

searchwarrant · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by 14daroad] Another article for consideration:&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;One reason even experienced psychiatrists are often wrong is that there are only a few clear signs that a person with a mental illness is likely to act violently, says Steven Hoge, a professor of psychiatry at Columbia University. These include a history of violence and a current threat to commit violence.&#xD;&#xA;Without either of these, Hoge says, "an accurate assessment of the likelihood of future violence is virtually impossible."&#xD;&#xA;"The biggest risk for gun violence is possession of a gun," says Hoge. "And there&#x27;s no evidence that the mentally ill possess guns or commit gun violence at any greater rate than the normal population."&#xD;&#xA;https://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/17/169529792/mental-health-gun-laws-unlikely-to-reduce-shootings&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Gee, hadn&#x27;t thought of part one. That&#x27;s break through information Doc.&#xD;&#xA;I think shooting twenty 1st graders point blank in the face would be worthy of &#x27;significant rate&#x27; status.

searchwarrant · Answer

....not criticizing you 14 on presenting the article - it is interesting and factual but it does only skim the surface. As I said, hopefully the mentally ill that do have a propensity for gun vilence can be identified and treated. Know idea how but parents communicating with their children might be a good start.

dl36 · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by searchwarrant]  &#xD;&#xA;Sarcasm. &#xD;&#xA;Nothing the administration is trying to accomplish will have any effect on mass shootings. (That&#x27;s a statistical fact) Upgrading prehistoric mental health awareness and treatment will. Allowing law abiding citizens (nationally) the right to obtain CCL&#x27;s will. Providing firearm(s) to school officials that receive formal training will......... &#xD;&#xA;   [/Quote]sarcasm doesnt compute with the the current BMA/GBP cut/paste bot alias....nothing much to see here... bob just found a partisan lemming talking point that he could unload on...

Raisethis2 · Answer

Why not? Whattya afraid of?

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