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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:09:21 PM
I posted a video of them... but you dismiss it because you are an idiot and a tool, and claim "all videos are the same".

You're a friggin joke dude. This video has nothing to do with the rest. It is all educated people with masters degrees in their fields of demolition, engineering, architecture etc.

Ill post it one more friggin time.

These are all experts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:10:08 PM
These morons are so dumb you could post absolute proof and they would sit there and shake their head like a donkey.


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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:11:12 PM
You cant fix stupid. Im done.

When the truth has been hopefully revealed someday remember me.

That is all.
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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:12:12 PM
"Finally, an unexplained cascade of molten metal from the northeast corner of the south tower just before it collapsed might have started when a floor carrying pieces of one of the jetliners began to sag and fail. The metal was probably molten aluminum from the plane and could have come through the top of an 80th floor window as the floor above gave way, Dr. Pitts said."

From this article

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/nyregion/03TOWE.html?ei=5007&en=a2c62eb2b42cf30c&ex=1385874000&adxnnl=1

But what does NIST know, how cutie pie?  Any reason you dont respond to what I post?  Hmmmmmmm I dont even believe that you believe what you're saying.


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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:13:33 PM
And for God's sake Dogunder, here is Firefighter talking about building 7 before it even collapsed.

"It's definitely coming down, there's no way to stop it"

Was he in on it too?


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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:14:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dogunder:

I posted a video of them... but you dismiss it because you are an idiot and a tool, and claim "all videos are the same".

You're a friggin joke dude. This video has nothing to do with the rest. It is all educated people with masters degrees in their fields of demolition, engineering, architecture etc.

Ill post it one more friggin time.

These are all experts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4


Richard Gage stage left at 0:10.  He is an architect.  He is one of 1500 that do not agree with the official story.  Do you know that 1500 represents less that one percent of one percent of all the architects and engineers in the world?  99.99% of EXPERTS are wrong?  I don't suppose you will respond to this.  If you do I bet there is a cuss involved sweetheart.
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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:15:03 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dogunder:

These morons are so dumb you could post absolute proof and they would sit there and shake their head like a donkey.




That's just it doofus. You haven't done that. In fact, you haven't been close.
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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:21:08 PM
I'm retiring from this thread.  I get geared up every so often to try to explain things, but it's clearly a waste of time.  Why do I care what this guy thinks about 09/11? You win!  Yayyyyyyy!!!!  Adios boys
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Posted: 6/17/2012 7:22:58 PM
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That's just it doofus. You haven't done that. In fact, you haven't been close.

LOL! Dog posted videos from an Islamic group and said it was proof. Dog posted videos of Harry Saive and when I brought his name up, he did not have a clue who he was. Dog said any American who did not agree with him should be jailed while saying the government was evil. Dog is easily swayed. Just post a video on youtube and it is gospel. Dog is about the most cluesless darn around

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Posted: 6/17/2012 10:48:12 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tpjw44:

I'm retiring from this thread.  I get geared up every so often to try to explain things, but it's clearly a waste of time.  Why do I care what this guy thinks about 09/11? You win!  Yayyyyyyy!!!!  Adios boys
The idea the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag operation by the US government to go to war is an example of what the government will do. It killed it’s own soldiers based on a false flag operation. Operation northwoods is just another cluster darn to you, I’m guessing. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency , or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane. The JCS proposed that a real plane containing American passengers would be hijacked by friendly forces disguised as Cuban agents. The plane would drop down off the radar screen and be replaced by a pilotless aircraft, which would crash, purportedly killing all the passengers. Under the plan, the real passenger plane would be secretly flown back to the United States. The fact that the US government even considered this is a red flag. I guess everything on this post is just unbelievable coincidences and misunderstandings.

FEMA assembled a team of volunteers from the American Society of Civil Engineers

This is misleading for several reasons: It implies that the Building Performance Assessment Team conducted an on-site investigation of the collapses, when in fact they were only allowed a walk-through of Ground Zero, derided by an investigator as a "tourist trip." Their only hands-on study of the debris was in salvage yards, and included an examination of far less than 1% of the steel. Investigators were not provided with the blueprints of the buildings. The 9/11 Commission Report failed to even mention the destruction of Building 7. The 9/11 Commission Report denied the existence of the Twin Towers' core structures. When presented with evidence of explosives, NIST has done the opposite of investigating: It has denied, evaded, changed the subject, and produced straw-man arguments.

American Society of Civil Engineers disclosures of Steel Sulfidation… The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified. ... A detailed study into the mechanisms of this phenomenon is needed to determine what risk, if any, is presented to existing steel structures exposed to severe and long-burning fires.

The authors don't speculate on whether the findings are evidence of explosives, but the New York Times called them "perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation."

Despite the ASCE's call for further investigation, NIST's Report ignores the findings.

Unfortunately NIST does not share its visual database with the public. Are there any videos in NIST's archive that show the alleged column bowing? They would immediately show whether the effect was due to refraction or to column distortion.

The Report boasts about the computer models it used to simulate the crashes and fires, but it does not make its models available for download, nor does it publish any of the data sets generated by the models.

The Report does not contain footnotes. It is filled with claims, the basis for which the reader can only guess. It leaves the public with no way to compare its conclusions with the evidence on which it was purportedly based.

I believe the NIST worked behind backwards. It started from the end and worked it’s way to fit a story line. It’s not that they deliberately did it that way…it’s because they don’t want to except the idea that the government was involved. It’s impossible to not have emotions attached to the investigation. If you passionately believe in the governments story…it won’t matter how much evidence there is if you are not willing to even except it. Most of the firefighters, police officers, a most of the family members have just blindly excepted the governments account. It’s a combination of painful emotion, naive ignorance and denial.

NIST encounters resistance, pretends to investigate

The surpression of video evidence of the pentagon

Simulator recreation demonstrates pentagon attack impossibility

I stand with Bob McIlvaine and his experts because Mr. McIlvaine has dedicated his life to finding the truth about why the government killed his son. The man has studied every single piece of evidence and is extremely well educated. Bob Mcllvaine video

Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Military commanders all repeatedly say it was a surprise attack. Bush put the Bin Laden Family on the first flight out of the country after 9/11, Bush was warned Bin Laden determined to strike in US, 36 days before 91, Bush told officials to back off before 911, Bush was warned Bin Laden wanted to hijack planes, NORAD had drills of planes as weapons, US intelligence officials had several warnings, Federal agency planned plane crash into building drill a year before 911, A plane crash is simulated inside the cardboard courtyard of the pentagon. The exercise was designed to help emergency personnel before 91, FBI knew terrorists were using flight schools, The US was told in 1998 that Arab terrorists were planing to fly a bomb-laden plane into the World Trade Center, Two years before 911 an analysis prepared for US intelligence warned that Osama Bin Laden's terrorists could hijack an airliner and fly it into government buildings etc…. this is beyond ridiculous already.

I guess everything on this post is just unbelievable coincidences and misunderstandings.

People are so gullible and naive..i feel like i'm wasting my time also Gizmo
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Posted: 6/17/2012 10:58:20 PM
Cut and paste. Cut and paste. Cut and paste. People who don't have the ability to think on their own
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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:03:53 PM
Oh yeah and the lack of a response by the military and NORAD is just a bunch of denial and excuses. If it was a surprise attack then I could except their excuses but since I know they were on alert since 1998, I find your excuses laughable. The North Koreans, Iranians, Russians, and Chinese should just use planes. I have no idea why they spend billion on weapons... when planes is the US weakness
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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:09:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wmi799:

Cut and paste. Cut and paste. Cut and paste. People who don't have the ability to think on their own
I have no problem with you, Kapono, Gizmo, or Slovak and we clearly respectfully disagree but what exactly do you want me to say?
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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:33:31 PM
MoneySRH from what I've seen, you are at least acknowledging that there were in fact Hijackers right?

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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:47:39 PM
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MoneySRH from what I've seen, you are at least acknowledging that there were in fact Hijackers right?

Of course, I believe that there were hijackers. They partied at topless bars and drank alcohol in my city (Las Vegas), despite being portrayed as fundamentalist radical Muslims.
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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:52:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

Oh yeah and the lack of a response by the military and NORAD is just a bunch of denial and excuses. If it was a surprise attack then I could except their excuses but since I know they were on alert since 1998, I find your excuses laughable. The North Koreans, Iranians, Russians, and Chinese should just use planes. I have no idea why they spend billion on weapons... when planes is the US weakness


planes were never a weakness

On the morning of 9/11, the existing protocol was unsuited in every respect for what was about to happen.


the protocols in place on 9/11 for the FAA and NORAD to respond to a hijacking presumed that
  • the hijacked aircraft would be readily identifiable and would not attempt to disappear;
  • there would be time to address the problem through the appropriate FAA and NORAD chains of command; and
  • hijacking would take the traditional form: that is, it would not be a suicide hijacking designed to convert the aircraft into a guided missile
The hijacking did not follow the protocols that existed prior to 9/11.




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Posted: 6/18/2012 12:03:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

Oh yeah and the lack of a response by the military and NORAD is just a bunch of denial and excuses. If it was a surprise attack then I could except their excuses but since I know they were on alert since 1998, I find your excuses laughable. The North Koreans, Iranians, Russians, and Chinese should just use planes. I have no idea why they spend billion on weapons... when planes is the US weakness


The protocols did not contemplate an intercept. They assumed the fighter escort would be discreet, "vectored to a position five miles directly behind the hijacked aircraft," where it could perform its mission to monitor the aircraft's flight path.

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Posted: 6/18/2012 12:08:27 AM
NEADS air defenders had nine minutes' notice on the first hijacked plane, no advance notice on the second, no advance notice on the third, and no advance notice on the fourth.
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Posted: 6/18/2012 12:18:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

Oh yeah and the lack of a response by the military and NORAD is just a bunch of denial and excuses. If it was a surprise attack then I could except their excuses but since I know they were on alert since 1998, I find your excuses laughable. The North Koreans, Iranians, Russians, and Chinese should just use planes. I have no idea why they spend billion on weapons... when planes is the US weakness


No lack of response
No denial
No excuses
They were never on alert for this type of event
Those Countries could never conduct a overwhelming attack on the US by planes,that's why they have ICBM. That is not Astro physics.



No mater how hard you try you will not be able to distort historical fact. Propaganda and deception will never distort  the historical facts.


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Posted: 6/18/2012 12:42:28 AM
BMA you are so wrong.

So very wrong. 

So sad you are so misinformed and keep misinforming people.

Im sorry to say this but you are very gullible and ignorant. That is the truth.
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Posted: 6/18/2012 2:00:56 AM
wow this is crazy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFHcOw9INj4&feature=related
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Posted: 6/18/2012 2:22:21 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dogunder:

BMA you are so wrong.

So very wrong. 

So sad you are so misinformed and keep misinforming people.

Im sorry to say this but you are very gullible and ignorant. That is the truth.
Notice 911 believers continue to say it was a surprise and that they were never on alert for this type of event, when in fact they were completely aware of an attack like this since 1998. The 700 billion dollar supremely advanced, most powerful and sophisticated military couldn't stop terrorists with 3 years notice and couldn't stop airliners with the most advanced military but are prepared for world war 3...

The United States intelligence community was told in 1998 (3 years before 911) that Arab terrorists were planning to fly bomb-laden planes into the World Trade Center

In the TWO years before the September 11th attacks, NORAD conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: Hijacked Airliners used as weapons to crash into targets

USA today reports the TWO YEARS before the September 11th attacks, an analysis prepared for US intelligence warned that Osama Bin Laden's terrorists could hijack an airliner and fly it into government buildings

Washington (CNN) US intelligence officials had several warings that terrorists might attack the United States on it's home soil, even using airplanes as weapons, well before the September 11th attacks, two congressional committees said in a report

No mater how hard you try you will not be able to distort historical fact. Propaganda and deception will never distort  the historical facts.

I don't even think 911 believers know how to read sometimes and it seems they're inept at putting things together and critical thinking.

Gullible, ignorant and naive to common sense and facts

It's becoming quite painful to see
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Posted: 6/18/2012 2:37:38 AM
what is painful is that people dont understand the laws of physics and are unable to see a story that is clearly full of a million holes
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Posted: 6/18/2012 12:25:17 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dogunder:

what is painful is that people dont understand the laws of physics and are unable to see a story that is clearly full of a million holes


Like you do.
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Posted: 6/18/2012 12:36:01 PM
When using YouTube videos to "prove" your right...

How specifically... do you determine which YouTubes are fact and which ones are totally bullshit. And which ones are half truth meant to mislead and confuse the gullible?


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