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Posted: 3/31/2012 6:42:44 PM
my baseball league with my boys I was team BOOTS to fools... wore the T-Shirt and all.


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Posted: 4/1/2012 3:43:38 AM
The only bet I made was Rock +225. I have a hard time seeing him lose in his hometown.

Also I don't get the Cena hate. I personally like the guy. He's a guy who legit loves what he does. Like him or not, he's never leaving wrestling for acting or anything else like that (not a shot at the Rock).
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Posted: 4/1/2012 3:46:50 AM
 Are thier any prop bets?  Such as who will bleed first or which match might end in a disqualification. I'd love to see Ed McMahan get slapped down by one of the hot lady grapplers.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 10:34:03 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PennStateMan077:

BOOTS TO fools!!!

I HATE CENA with a passion by far the most stale and boring guy out there

I actually like Cena, I don't like the super Cena that happens too often.  When they let him have a real match he is really really good.  But they book him in get beat up and super Cena th win too often. 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 10:42:24 AM
POwerade,

exactly my thoughts.. its always the same thing cena getting his behind kicked all match then its like he turns on super human strength and wins the match cleanly every single time. To me Cena is stale is the same song and dance. 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 12:25:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

OK so here's my initial thoughts:

1. I have no idea really why they split up the Rock/Cena odds -- do they have inside information? is Tony scared of a repeat of last year? Dogs haven't hit that much over the past 3 years of my involvement of Wrestlemania betting although there has been one here and there. Not only that, but if Tony has inside info or is scared of a scenario like last year, why is Cena favored on both legs? If they knew that it was going to be a Rock win that changes to Cena by the end of the show or vice versa, wouldn't the odds suggest that? Either way, I think that this match should end with Cena winning, although I do get worried about these claims that the two are going to do a best of 3 series because of Miz interference chicanery which would set up a re-match of some kind. Not a ton of value here on either side IMO, although I'd lean Rocky at the plus juice just because a Rock win would help set up the rematch or some sort of triple threat at a future PPV with Miz. You have to imagine at Mania that the fans will boo Cena out of the building because (a) they are in Rock's hometown and (b) the people who travel from out of town to go to Wrestlemania are not in the wheelhouse of Cena fans.

2. Taker at -600 is a lock, and I don't use that phrase lightly. No way HHH (or anyone) beats the streak. I'd be adding in Taker to every single parlay I made.

3. I think there is extreme value in Punk at -130, I don't believe Jericho came back with the promise of a title run and quite frankly, I think he recognizes talent and wanted to put over a guy like Punk to help cement his stardom. Jericho is too old and wise in the ways of the business to be selfish and demand a title run in exchange for returning. Plus with Fozzy's touring schedule in the summer, I think Punk should be much closer to a -250 favorite.

4. Sheamus should be the favorite here but I wouldn't be shocked to see Bryan retain, I think he has been fantastic in his heel persona and his abusive relationship with AJ is really only starting to develop. The best way I think for his star to continue to rise is for him to beat Sheamus at Mania, although you wonder if they would give Sheamus the monster Rumble win and subsequent push if they didn't want to put the title on him. Add in the history of favorites cashing at Mania and the love that Sheamus has from the company as one of the new stars, and I think Sheamus probably picks up the win (although it is not what I would do from a booking perspective).

5. Rhodes and Big Show is very interesting. Rhodes has gotten the better of Show throughout the build to this I feel and logic would dictate that Show should put Rhodes over, but the one-sided nature of this makes me wonder if Show won't finally get his "Wrestlemania moment" by beating down Rhodes. Rhodes did get a big win last year at Mania against Mysterio so I could see the company thinking that it is time for him to give a win back to a veteran in Big Show, especially when the whole story line is based around the fact that Big Show has had nothing but blunders at past Manias.

I agree with the fact that the arc of the storyline is pointing to Show's own Wrestlemania moment. Therefore, if they truly want to pull a swerve on the fans, they would put Rhodes over here.

But given the bold, Show has been so utterly embarrassed during this run (the WWE restaurant clip with the 'Woooo!' from Show has even ME embarrassed when I watch it), I can't imagine Vince/writers coming to him and saying, "You will have a featured match at WM, but we are going to the archives to pull the worst footage ever of you from past WM's and on top of that, when all is said and done you will lay down for Cody."

How can someone agree to that even though they need to continue to push Rhodes as a young star? 

Still, the belt on Show doesn't appear to work but Rhodes has held the belt since August 9, 2011, almost 8 months (the longest running champ since the Rock in 1997 ), a lifetime in modern-day wrestling.

This match is very confounding and maybe the most interesting of the night in terms of a result.

 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:13:05 PM
Does the rumored Brock Lesnar signing and potential appearance today change anyone's thoughts as to potential results? Only matches I could see him getting involved in are Cena/Rock or HHH/Taker... then again, it could be just an announcement of his signing? Or maybe they re-introduce him similar to how they did his first time around -- maybe he just comes in to a throw-away match and destroys everyone in sight?
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:26:59 PM
Kapono,

I was thinking Lesnar and Batista find something today.

or as crazy as it sounds Lesnar and Big Show or Mark Henry
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:12:55 PM
Get the HHH bets in, it's happening.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:15:56 PM
if someone finds a link for this will they please post it
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nvm gonna order it instead
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:25:32 PM
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what positives would come from HHH winning? I really cant see a single one
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:27:11 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

Does the rumored Brock Lesnar signing and potential appearance today change anyone's thoughts as to potential results? Only matches I could see him getting involved in are Cena/Rock or HHH/Taker... then again, it could be just an announcement of his signing? Or maybe they re-introduce him similar to how they did his first time around -- maybe he just comes in to a throw-away match and destroys everyone in sight?


I've completely stayed away from any Cena/Rock play because of the talks about Miz and because of the talks about a trilogy finishing at next year's Wrestlemania.

Would they bring in Lesnar to be a heel? Who knows. But remember late last year when they had the plan to set up a Taker v Lesnar match at Wrestlemania but because of Lesnar losing his fight, he wasn't in the position to really talk to Taker to set up a storyline, nor would he have been given the heads up by Dana White. I think the "Big Announcement" for tomorrow will be him. I'm not sure if he will be involved tonight. But if he is, and it's not like a whole "Hey, I'm back" thing...I think Taker beats Triple H and Brock comes in, F-5's Taker and sets up for Wrestlemania next year. Either way...I don't think he'll mess up any outcome of a match.

But also like PSM said...Batista's name has popped up too. So who knows where that may go either. 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:28:29 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PennStateMan077:

WalktheLine,

what positives would come from HHH winning? I really cant see a single one

Initial ruling...MAYBE. Have a mess up by HBK and then starting the match again. The end of broadcast ruling is a lock. We all know that "the streak" will never die. So that's all I have to say about that. 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:28:51 PM
how do i view the odds on 5dimes

do i need to have an account
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:31:37 PM
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exactly my thoughts on the match.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:09:10 PM
What gets me nervous is that it looks like a lot of fan favorites should win. The arguments go to Taker, Punk, Sheamus, Big Show, Orton and Maria and Kelly with the "heels" being Team Johnny and John Cena.

I guess if Sheamus wins and Bryan keeps the title that helps but still. I'm slightly nervous about a few of my sides.

Taker down to -600/-825 now. Making me a bit nervous about the initial ruling thing again. 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:10:01 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

What gets me nervous is that it looks like a lot of fan favorites should win. The arguments go to Taker, Punk, Sheamus, Big Show, Orton and Maria and Kelly with the "heels" being Team Johnny and John Cena.

I guess if Sheamus wins and Bryan keeps the title that helps but still. I'm slightly nervous about a few of my sides.

Taker down to -600/-825 now. Making me a bit nervous about the initial ruling thing again. 

I'm just nervous...alright!!! 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:49:51 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


I'm just nervous...alright!!! 

I stated fact, not opinion. I told you HHH is going to win. Why would you question it? 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 5:41:04 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by walktheline:


I stated fact, not opinion. I told you HHH is going to win. Why would you question it? 


I grabbed some of him at +450 when it was still out there, but I will be pissed if it happens....
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Posted: 4/1/2012 5:45:35 PM

WTF?????

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Posted: 4/1/2012 5:52:17 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by walktheline:


I stated fact, not opinion. I told you HHH is going to win. Why would you question it? 

Because I don't know you nor did you give any reason as to why he's gonna win. I didn't question it...because I ignored it. 
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QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


Because I don't know you nor did you give any reason as to why he's gonna win. I didn't question it...because I ignored it. 



remember, we are talking about scripted matches here
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i see at another book the rock is -105
cena -133
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