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Posted: 3/24/2012 12:47:02 AM
No haters please. Many of us know what happened last year and then people betting on this got hairy and then people who like WWE are "losers" and apparently that's supposed to hurt us in some way? Anyway...here are the lines. 

The Rock (initial ruling) +115
John Cena (initial ruling) -155

The Rock (end of broadcast ruling) +180
John Cena (end of broadcast ruling) -260

Everything is "end of broadcast ruling" from now on.

Triple H +400
Undertaker -600

CM Punk -130
Chris Jericho -110

Daniel Bryan +145
Sheamus -185

Cody Rhodes -120
Big Show -120

So here are my takes on this...

Rock v Cena
The first thought is that Cena is going to win just like when The Rock beat Hogan in a "passing of the torch" type of situation. But now there are talks about this being a 3-part series with the final match at next year's Wrestlemania (The Rock is confirmed to be a part of that). And then it seems like a sure thing that The Miz will get involved in this match in some capacity, which would lead to them saying it wasn't fair and make them have a second match which would be won by the loser of this match and then, next year, have Cena win. So I could really see Cena win this because of the interference by The Miz so it seems like The Rock didn't lose anything and got screwed, keeping his cred. But that's my view on in.

Triple H v Undertaker
Taker is going 20-0 at Wrestlemania...there's no doubt who will win this one.

CM Punk v Chris Jericho
Jericho will be going on tour with Fozzy this Summer so he won't be a good champ to have around. And it doesn't make sense for him to win to be honest. CM Punk is the "big guy" right now also so I can't see them friggin with that.

Daniel Bryan v Sheamus
Well...if CM Punk wins the title...Daniel Bryan, the heel, should still be the champ, right? Something tells me that Sheamus should be the champ, though, so this one is tough for me to call. Shouldn't this Daniel Bryan experiment over with already? I hear they plan on doing a storyline between him, AJ and the Bellas. Can he do that as the champ? Is it easier to do it as the champ as opposed to looking to become the champ? Or does he just fall out of the title picture? Tough one.

Cody Rhodes v Big Show
The Big Show as an intercontinental champ just doesn't make sense. But I can't read into this one.


I can't wait to get this discussion started. Hope to see Kapono and Shango around as well as others who were involved in this last year (in a positive way).

Keep it cool, fellas. 
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Posted: 3/24/2012 12:49:07 AM
Lines are from 5dimes, btw.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 12:53:54 AM
Good Luck 
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Posted: 3/24/2012 1:33:56 AM
can you parlay with taker?
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Posted: 3/24/2012 1:50:28 AM
I'd take the rock without thinking twice
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Posted: 3/24/2012 3:23:06 AM
Betting on fixed garbage 
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Posted: 3/24/2012 3:24:41 AM
I'm thinking Rock/Cena goes 3 matches. Rock winning WM, Cena winning Summerslam, Cena winning next yr's WM.

Taker wins no question.

I like Punk. Now that Jericho is talking about getting Punk to drink and do drugs and all that garbage I'm thinking Punk retains. I also think they need him to be the 'guy' right now.

Sheamus beats Bryan. Sheamus is on a monster run right now. No way he loses, plus he's a main eventer, Bryan not so much imo.

Show/Rhodes tough to say. I'd lean towards Rhodes right now.


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Posted: 3/24/2012 3:27:39 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MakeSumCake:

Betting on fixed garbage 


If Undertaker loses fans will be pissed, especially if he loses to HHH. WWE can't alienate their audience like that. Betting on Undertaker is basically winning free money.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 6:07:40 AM
5dimes.

CM Punk -130
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Posted: 3/24/2012 7:09:48 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Brewcrewfan:

I'm thinking Rock/Cena goes 3 matches. Rock winning WM, Cena winning Summerslam, Cena winning next yr's WM.

Taker wins no question.

I like Punk. Now that Jericho is talking about getting Punk to drink and do drugs and all that garbage I'm thinking Punk retains. I also think they need him to be the 'guy' right now.

Sheamus beats Bryan. Sheamus is on a monster run right now. No way he loses, plus he's a main eventer, Bryan not so much imo.

Show/Rhodes tough to say. I'd lean towards Rhodes right now.



Bryan is The Miz right now. Shouldn't be champ...but is. The thing is...you never see 2 babyfaces or 2 heels as champs at the same time. Which pretty much throws out the option of both Punk and Sheamus winning. I think Sheamus will be champ...but those situations never happen. Probably something just to stay away from.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 7:13:29 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by boberts427:

can you parlay with taker?

Yea. But there's a $50 max win on all favorites.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 7:14:47 AM
Maria Menounos/Kelly Kelly -120
Beth/Eve -120

Would Menounos really do this if she were going to lose? Doubt it.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 10:51:58 AM
I gotta go play in a 3 on 3 tournament but rest assured I will be back to this thread with my opinions.


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Posted: 3/24/2012 11:15:16 AM
undertaker is a lock
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Posted: 3/24/2012 11:25:49 AM
I can't believe they have odds on this, especially since the wrestlers plan out the whole performance in backstage before the match.  A lot of winners are predetermined way before the date of the match for story purposes.  
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Posted: 3/24/2012 11:42:25 AM
The Rock (initial ruling) +115
John Cena (initial ruling) -155

The Rock (end of broadcast ruling) +180
John Cena (end of broadcast ruling) –260

This is a tough one to call for me. I keep going back & fourth.
I expect the Miz to get involved and John Laurinaitis for sure.
I would bet Cena wins the first match & Rock walks out champ.

Triple H +400
Undertaker -600

I agree that the Undertaker should win. I don’t think WWE is ready
to let Undertaker retire just yet. Undertaker makes them a ton of money.

CM Punk -130
Chris Jericho -110

I think Y2J wins with his cheating ways as always. CM punk has been a champion for a long time now.

Daniel Bryan +145
Sheamus -185

I think Sheamus wins because it’s time for him to be in the spot light again.

Cody Rhodes -120
Big Show -120

Cody cheats and wins somehow like he always does.

Maria Menounos/Kelly Kelly -120
Beth/Eve –120

The two bikini models win to make the fans happy.

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Posted: 3/24/2012 12:18:57 PM
Undertaker will NEVER lose at Mania.  Easiest money you can make if you're willing to lay the juice.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 12:33:13 PM

Sucks they only let ya bet $50 bucks on so Taker at -600 is kindof a waste as are most of the bets since you can only bet $50.

How much can you bet on an underdog????

 

Punk at -130 is crazy, if you could bet more I would play that.

 

I think Rhodes loses to Big Show.

Rhodes vs Shaemus for the title at Summerslam

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Posted: 3/24/2012 1:20:41 PM

Taker will win of course but with the juice its useless to bet.

I agree that Punk is great value, I also heard Chris is going on tour soon so he wont be around. Makes no sense to give him the title here, along with Punk being the main man right now in the WWE.

I just dont think they will let Show win the belt. Couldnt tell you how Cody is going to do it but somehow, someway, Show will not win that belt.

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Posted: 3/24/2012 1:40:34 PM
Show winning will be a huge mistake. 

This will be a big stepping stone for Rhodes and he needs it.

I am so sick and tired of Big Show. Wrestling has largely 'graduated' in the minds of fans beyond the lumbering oaf who only headbutts guys and chokeslams them. That is why the Great Khali has so few appearances. That is why they took the belt off Mark Henry.

Then when a guy like Brodus Clay comes along, one who is very big and light on his feet, people get excited. It's because they want more than what Show offers. Remember when he used to dropkick guys 1:40 ? Not anymore...

I BEG the WWE to have the Big Show lose this match. 
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Posted: 3/24/2012 1:48:14 PM

Speaking of Brodus Clay, that may be the single worst gimmick of all time (and they have had alot of them). This guy was suppose to be a complete monster, so much so they were afraid to let him into the ring. They put him on the shelf for months and next thing you know he comes back as a dancing goof?  Total waste of talent.

Worst blunder in wrestling since Doink The Clown. Let bad guys stay bad...............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE0CAFySImQ

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Posted: 3/24/2012 2:50:06 PM
OK so here's my initial thoughts:

1. I have no idea really why they split up the Rock/Cena odds -- do they have inside information? is Tony scared of a repeat of last year? Dogs haven't hit that much over the past 3 years of my involvement of Wrestlemania betting although there has been one here and there. Not only that, but if Tony has inside info or is scared of a scenario like last year, why is Cena favored on both legs? If they knew that it was going to be a Rock win that changes to Cena by the end of the show or vice versa, wouldn't the odds suggest that? Either way, I think that this match should end with Cena winning, although I do get worried about these claims that the two are going to do a best of 3 series because of Miz interference chicanery which would set up a re-match of some kind. Not a ton of value here on either side IMO, although I'd lean Rocky at the plus juice just because a Rock win would help set up the rematch or some sort of triple threat at a future PPV with Miz. You have to imagine at Mania that the fans will boo Cena out of the building because (a) they are in Rock's hometown and (b) the people who travel from out of town to go to Wrestlemania are not in the wheelhouse of Cena fans.

2. Taker at -600 is a lock, and I don't use that phrase lightly. No way HHH (or anyone) beats the streak. I'd be adding in Taker to every single parlay I made.

3. I think there is extreme value in Punk at -130, I don't believe Jericho came back with the promise of a title run and quite frankly, I think he recognizes talent and wanted to put over a guy like Punk to help cement his stardom. Jericho is too old and wise in the ways of the business to be selfish and demand a title run in exchange for returning. Plus with Fozzy's touring schedule in the summer, I think Punk should be much closer to a -250 favorite.

4. Sheamus should be the favorite here but I wouldn't be shocked to see Bryan retain, I think he has been fantastic in his heel persona and his abusive relationship with AJ is really only starting to develop. The best way I think for his star to continue to rise is for him to beat Sheamus at Mania, although you wonder if they would give Sheamus the monster Rumble win and subsequent push if they didn't want to put the title on him. Add in the history of favorites cashing at Mania and the love that Sheamus has from the company as one of the new stars, and I think Sheamus probably picks up the win (although it is not what I would do from a booking perspective).

5. Rhodes and Big Show is very interesting. Rhodes has gotten the better of Show throughout the build to this I feel and logic would dictate that Show should put Rhodes over, but the one-sided nature of this makes me wonder if Show won't finally get his "Wrestlemania moment" by beating down Rhodes. Rhodes did get a big win last year at Mania against Mysterio so I could see the company thinking that it is time for him to give a win back to a veteran in Big Show, especially when the whole story line is based around the fact that Big Show has had nothing but blunders at past Manias.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 3:10:25 PM
i want in on the action.  What's the bet, fellas?
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Posted: 3/24/2012 3:22:50 PM
I am almost certain that the Undertaker has a "no losses at Wrestlemania" clause in his contract. I believe that would be the bet for those that were looking for "free money." 
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Posted: 3/24/2012 4:37:21 PM
how do they book bets on a scripted TV show? Its a performance and entertainment. How low are the limits?

Do people still like the Undertaker? They should have him lose one

BTW idiots that come in here and say "its fixed" are friggin clueless. It cant be fixed if its never meant to be a legitimate sports competition. It is entertainment
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