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#1 Posted: 12/2/2011 6:03:31 AM Long story short-
I want a large dog that is good with children but would be a major deterrent for people wanting to break into my house.
Please advise.
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#2 Posted: 12/2/2011 6:21:22 AM german shep |
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#3 Posted: 12/2/2011 6:34:01 AM That's what I was thinking too. I like black labs a lot but are they too friendly to be a serious threat to a would-be intruder? |
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#4 Posted: 12/2/2011 6:45:55 AM rotty |
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#5 Posted: 12/2/2011 7:15:59 AM German Sheppard Hands down. But be careful with breeder. My friend has one Ive seen this Dog get His ears pulled, his paws stepped on you name it by my kids and my friends kids and not bat an eyelash. I have laid my head on him when watching games.He could not be more gentile. Dude this dog is so friggin smart my friend literally talks to him not just with command words but in friggin sentences!! However he is so protective of PEOPLE HE KNOWS that if someone so much as steps one foot on there property he will rip them a new fool. Thats the rub. they are great dogs and have great intentions. but if your not around and maybe he gets out or a meter reader comes by or god forbid a little kid gets in your yard their fucked. |
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#6 Posted: 12/2/2011 7:25:23 AM My #1 concern is that there is always children and NEW children coming in and out of my house/yard. Can't help it, we live in an extremely child-friendly neighborhood and my kid is 5. We also have problems in the neighborhood with break-ins and I think our police force is severely underfunded. |
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#7 Posted: 12/2/2011 8:42:32 AM Bullmastiff...........simply the best. |
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#8 Posted: 12/2/2011 8:48:24 AM Jason, thats a tough one because like you said you live in a child friendly neighborhood, so if you get the good guard dog like a german shephard, rot, etc etc you run the risk of those dogs attacking one of your kids own friends, because they might misread play fighting for real fighting and attack your childs friend. Sometimes these type of dogs become so protective of kids others cant even get near them.
Listen any friendly big dog like a lab, golden, boxer are still going to scare off people trying to break into your house.
Like i said your in a tough spot here. First thing i would try to do if i was in your shoes, is try to move to a better neighborhood if at all possible Good luck and do alot of research before just jumping in with any dog.
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#9 Posted: 12/2/2011 8:53:57 AM one other thing Jason, any type of dog can be defeated. It all depends on how determined the person breaking into your house is.
get out of the neighborhood if you can
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#10 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:14:23 AM Australian Shepherd dog,
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#11 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:18:50 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by BMA:
Australian Shepherd dog,
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#12 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:19:27 AM BMA, you are obsessed with celebrities
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#13 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:26:26 AM thought i was gonna see a pic of gayhounds avatar. if i was a burglar and saw that i would run away screaming.
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#14 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:28:41 AM I have a neo mastiff i rescued two years ago. They are incredibly smart, very loyal, good with kids, and you better believe "we must protect this house. They supposedly dont require much activity, so maybe mine is exception to the rule, but the breed was designed to protect your castle. Diesel has always been around so many people and other dogs, so he is good with them. If an intruder sees the 150 lb pile with his massive head/mouth, they are immediately deterred, and even if you hear the bark, you know its coming from something huge and bad behind
He also listens incredibly well. They are expensive, 1500+ for a puppy, and then food for a giant breed isnt cheap (unless you find a butcher to sell you the scrap ends for .75 cents per lb, then its like stealing and your pup will be so much healthier eating a natural diet of raw meats instead of the chix and rice the dog food companies sell you that makes dogs sick)
You could find one for adoption, i'd imagine
They are funny as hell, i cant ever stay mad or sad when i see my pup. Hes the best security system money can buy, and now hes my best friend. Hell, he even saved my life
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#15 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:28:45 AM german shep would be my pick though. a great protection dog would be an 80% wolf pup, but they only bond to one person
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#16 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:28:48 AM
The Australian shepherd is a breed of herding dog that was developed on ranches in the Western United States. Despite its name, the breed, commonly known as an Aussie, did not originate in Australia They acquired their name because some of the Australian sheepdogs arrived in the United States with boatloads of Australian sheep. The breed rose gradually in popularity with the boom of western riding after World War I. They became known to the general public through rodeos, horse shows, and through Disney movies made for television.
For many years, Aussies have been valued by stockmen for their inherent versatility and trainability. While they continue to work as stockdogs and compete in herding trials, the breed has earned recognition in other roles due to their trainability and eagerness to please, and are highly regarded for their skills in obedience. Like all working breeds, the Aussie has considerable energy and drive, and usually needs a job to do. It often excels at dog sports such as dog agility, flyball, and frisbee. They are also highly successful search and rescue dogs, disaster dogs, detection dogs, guide, service, and therapy dogs.
Dogs may show reserved and cautious guarding behaviors. They are kind, loving, and devoted to those they know. They are very loyal to their owners, and are rewarding dogs if treated well
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#17 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:32:21 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by misfits:
german shep would be my pick though. a great protection dog would be an 80% wolf pup, but they only bond to one person
these dogs can be fun
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#18 Posted: 12/2/2011 9:51:03 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by jasonwhitesknee:
My #1 concern is that there is always children and NEW children coming in and out of my house/yard. Can't help it, we live in an extremely child-friendly neighborhood and my kid is 5. We also have problems in the neighborhood with break-ins and I think our police force is severely underfunded.
First, the dog should be on a leash. I know, it's my yard...
If your back or front yard is enclosed... Great, but if they are not and the dog bites someone and you get sued the Judge is not going to be sympathetic to "they teased my dog, so it's their fault they were attacked"... Bottom line is your dog, your responsibility...
Second, limit the people who pet and get to know the dog. If everybody and his brother get to pet and play with the dog it is not going to deter anyone from taking their share of your property and the dog will never alert you if someone breaks in.
Figure out what you want the dog for and train the dog for that role. Don't be afraid to tell people not to touch the dog. You want the dog to know without question who it's master is.
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#19 Posted: 12/2/2011 10:10:31 AM the mastiff is a great dog for a family but beware , the dog is huge and slobbers alot . I have a male and he is awesome . He has been a best friend to my son for 8 years. he is loyal, loving and i love him but he is 180 pound slobber machine |
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#20 Posted: 12/2/2011 10:15:16 AM I have had several Rottweilers over the years. They are great with kids and become part of the family. To say they will protect your family and your property cannot be overstated. The Rottweiler in my avatar is Lilly. She was a member of our family and was gentle with kids and very friendly to invited guests. However, any strangers, solicitors, or even the mailman would garbage their pants at the demon like unwelcome she would give them the second they stepped on the property. Lilly died last year, but I still have Henry. Henry is 140 pounds of brute strength and intimidation. I also have a 2 year old little boy and Henry is as gentle as can be with him. I never worry about a break in with Henry around. Work with a Rottweiler when they are a pup and you will have the ultimate guard dog and a loyal family friend.
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#21 Posted: 12/2/2011 10:47:08 AM We have had three attempted break ins in the last 6 years and my dobeys have foiled them all.Twice holding the theives for over 4 hours untill I returned home to rescue them and them turn them over to the cops.
Any guard breed will require training and the method you use will have alot to do with how the dog reacts to kids and strangers,My dogs are taught to guard on command and when in that mode their overall personality changes quite a bit. They get to know the family as pups and are very protective of my kids when away from the yard but when not onguard they will let neighborhood kids come and go without any reaction at all on property.
Kids that act like bullys and put off attitude the dogs will not allow on property or near my kids they seem to be atune to threats.The mailman can come and go from the mailbox but will not approach the house unless we are home same for fedx and UPS or police officers for that matter.
One advantage of a dobey is they fit in most spaces like the car and with their naturally slim build food costs are not off the charts.With hackles up and teeth bared no one comes close enough to cause any trouble. |
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#22 Posted: 12/2/2011 10:58:33 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by jasonwhitesknee:
My #1 concern is that there is always children and NEW children coming in and out of my house/yard. .
what, do you live at the neverland ranch?
we went to the pound and got a dog that is part boxer, part lab and part ridgeback. she is everything you mentioned. obviously, that's not an easy combination to find but i always want to encourage people to get one from the pound.
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#23 Posted: 12/2/2011 11:14:00 AM you can train any dog to be protective.
i have a golden retriever and have my whole life. its all about how you train them. all dogs in some way are naturally protective of owners. now will a german be more likely to attack someone, yes. but if a guy has a gun or something it really does not matter.
most intruders will not break in a house no matter what kind of dog is barking simply because they are alert barking.
my golden alert barks at any pounding, noise especially at night. cannot tell you how many times i have woken up at 3am to him going nuts barking. so i just grab my gun and head downstairs. nobody with a sense of mind is going to walk into someones house and think there will not be confrontation with a dog barking like that.
and most intruders are scared of dogs i saw a study on so they wont even bother.
if you have a kid and have kids at the house you run a slight risk with a german, bigger risk with a rot, and no risk with a golden. but it serves the same purpose almost and you get a much better dog demeanor.
my dad has two american terriers. my wife and most wont even go to his house cause they hate the dogs and their demeanor. and no one wants to bring their little kids around there. i would say the dogs are just as protective as mine if someone actually broke in.
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#24 Posted: 12/2/2011 11:14:05 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
what, do you live at the neverland ranch?
we went to the pound and got a dog that is part boxer, part lab and part ridgeback. she is everything you mentioned. obviously, that's not an easy combination to find but i always want to encourage people to get one from the pound.
Good advice, CD. After Lilly died we rescued a mix from the SPCA that only has 3 legs and spent her first (estimated) 18 months on the streets. We had to work with her for about 6 months and now she is a loyal friend and member of the family. She runs like a deer, loves kids, and gets along well with Henry.
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#25 Posted: 12/2/2011 11:24:35 AM it's funny, when our pound describes the dogs, every one of them is part lab, none of them are part pit bull. i actually think our dog has some pit bull. i'm skeptical of the lab part. but it has worked out fine. i think you can send a hair sample to some company and they will tell you about your dog's family history. sounds like a gimmick but i may do it because we are curious.
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