based on the following premises, i support taxing sugar soft drinks but i'm interested to hear what the opponents say. who wants to argue it?
1.regardless of whatever nonsense is going on in washington with health care reform, our health care system needs serious help
2. regardless of just about anything, this country needs to raise money
3. one of the reasons for 1 and 2 above is that people generally take shit care of themselves, are overweight and destined to have various, very expensive medical conditions like heart disease, diabetes, etc.
4. refined sugars, are a major, if not the major, contributor to such chronic and very expensive medical conditions
5. there is no nutritional value whatsoever in sugar drinks like coke, mountain dew, etc.
6. there is precedent for taxing things that fall into category five, i.e. cigarettes.
so, who's with me?
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based on the following premises, i support taxing sugar soft drinks but i'm interested to hear what the opponents say. who wants to argue it?
1.regardless of whatever nonsense is going on in washington with health care reform, our health care system needs serious help
2. regardless of just about anything, this country needs to raise money
3. one of the reasons for 1 and 2 above is that people generally take shit care of themselves, are overweight and destined to have various, very expensive medical conditions like heart disease, diabetes, etc.
4. refined sugars, are a major, if not the major, contributor to such chronic and very expensive medical conditions
5. there is no nutritional value whatsoever in sugar drinks like coke, mountain dew, etc.
6. there is precedent for taxing things that fall into category five, i.e. cigarettes.
because if they tax it ........the money that they get from it would just go to Welfare-ticia, so she can stay home all day with her five kids from five differnt dadies and not work
no more taxes on anything
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because if they tax it ........the money that they get from it would just go to Welfare-ticia, so she can stay home all day with her five kids from five differnt dadies and not work
Because let's say a bottle of orange juice costs $1.50, and a Coke costs the same. Do you honestly believe that if they raise the price of the Coke, they won't raise the price of the OJ, too?
It's basically a free pass to raise the prices on EVERYTHING.
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Because let's say a bottle of orange juice costs $1.50, and a Coke costs the same. Do you honestly believe that if they raise the price of the Coke, they won't raise the price of the OJ, too?
It's basically a free pass to raise the prices on EVERYTHING.
no thank you...but i would not be shocked if such a tax were levied...i am of the mindset that we need to use more common sense and spend within our means, no matter how comical this sounds
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no thank you...but i would not be shocked if such a tax were levied...i am of the mindset that we need to use more common sense and spend within our means, no matter how comical this sounds
I'm completely against most taxes, but I really wouldn't mind this one.
People don't realize how bad that shit really is for you - and the problem is that if you buy say a 24-case of mountain dew cans (which have something like 10 million grams of sugar per sip), you drink one and it makes you crave more... if you are sitting around (lets say doing work all day for school) you can easily drink 10 cans. And its HORRIBLE for you. Take any person who is out of shape and just cut the soda from their diet and they will see a difference. IMO it is as bad as cigarettes, maybe even worse... cigarettes take decades to kill you, if they ever kill you at all. Sugar sludge is guaranteed to make you less healthy than you were before you drank it.
Tax it, ban it, whatever. Soda is bad.
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I'm completely against most taxes, but I really wouldn't mind this one.
People don't realize how bad that shit really is for you - and the problem is that if you buy say a 24-case of mountain dew cans (which have something like 10 million grams of sugar per sip), you drink one and it makes you crave more... if you are sitting around (lets say doing work all day for school) you can easily drink 10 cans. And its HORRIBLE for you. Take any person who is out of shape and just cut the soda from their diet and they will see a difference. IMO it is as bad as cigarettes, maybe even worse... cigarettes take decades to kill you, if they ever kill you at all. Sugar sludge is guaranteed to make you less healthy than you were before you drank it.
no thank you...but i would not be shocked if such a tax were levied...i am of the mindset that we need to use more common sense and spend within our means, no matter how comical this sounds
It sounds very comical because it's obvious that most people have absolutely no common sense at all and can't make any decisions for themselves. Spend within our means?!?!?! Are you crazy?!?! Why would we do that when we can go open 10 credit cards and buy whatever we want.
My point is people are fucking dopes! I'd love to think that people can be responsible for themselves but frankly THEY CAN'T. And it affects all of us, its another reason why Americans are so unhealthy - we engorge ourselves with sludge every day.
Unfortunately the big corp's make a killing on soda, so we won't see anything happen to slow it down.
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Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:
no thank you...but i would not be shocked if such a tax were levied...i am of the mindset that we need to use more common sense and spend within our means, no matter how comical this sounds
It sounds very comical because it's obvious that most people have absolutely no common sense at all and can't make any decisions for themselves. Spend within our means?!?!?! Are you crazy?!?! Why would we do that when we can go open 10 credit cards and buy whatever we want.
My point is people are fucking dopes! I'd love to think that people can be responsible for themselves but frankly THEY CAN'T. And it affects all of us, its another reason why Americans are so unhealthy - we engorge ourselves with sludge every day.
Unfortunately the big corp's make a killing on soda, so we won't see anything happen to slow it down.
Love this discussion because at first it does seem ridiculous to be so hard on soda. But the more you think about it the more obvious it is that 'pop' is horrible for us and has no benefit. It's a lot like cigarettes.
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Love this discussion because at first it does seem ridiculous to be so hard on soda. But the more you think about it the more obvious it is that 'pop' is horrible for us and has no benefit. It's a lot like cigarettes.
The threat of these types of taxes on sodas,chocolate and junk food is a pretty clever way to raise political donations & contributions from Coca Cola,Mc D's,Hershey's et al.
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The threat of these types of taxes on sodas,chocolate and junk food is a pretty clever way to raise political donations & contributions from Coca Cola,Mc D's,Hershey's et al.
right spitfire. why does no one objectively complain about taxes on cigarettes? because it's always been that way? because it's common knowledge that cigarettes are bad for you? neither reason would seem to imply a soda tax isn't as warranted, or more warranted, than a cigarette tax.
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right spitfire. why does no one objectively complain about taxes on cigarettes? because it's always been that way? because it's common knowledge that cigarettes are bad for you? neither reason would seem to imply a soda tax isn't as warranted, or more warranted, than a cigarette tax.
I think ultimately it just points out how ridiculous universal health care ultimately becomes. Take care of yourself, your finances, your health, you family. Let other people do the same. Keep your hands out of my fucking pockets.
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I think ultimately it just points out how ridiculous universal health care ultimately becomes. Take care of yourself, your finances, your health, you family. Let other people do the same. Keep your hands out of my fucking pockets.
I think ultimately it just points out how ridiculous universal health care ultimately becomes. Take care of yourself, your finances, your health, you family. Let other people do the same. Keep your hands out of my fucking pockets.
I like that thought.
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Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:
I think ultimately it just points out how ridiculous universal health care ultimately becomes. Take care of yourself, your finances, your health, you family. Let other people do the same. Keep your hands out of my fucking pockets.
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