Is this the best QB class ever?

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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:02:57 AM
I am not talking about the 2018 QB draft class, but the entire 2017 college football QB's, there is a ton of talent everywhere, and there will inevitably be a few freshman, and new starters who play well.  

The SEC usually has a weak group of QB's, but when you go down the list it's pretty impressive.  
Alabama- Jalen Hurts
Auburn- Jarrett Stidham
Ole Miss- Shea Patterson
Miss St- Nick Fitzgerald
LSU- Danny Etling
Arkansas- Antonio Allen
Vandy- Kyle Shurmer
Mizzou- Drew Lock
South Carolina- Jake Bently
Georgia- Jacob Eason
USC- Sam Darnold
Oregon- Justin Herbert
Washington st- Luke Falk
Washington- Jake Browning
UCLA- Josh Rosen
Wyoming- Josh Allen
Colorado- Steven Montez
Colorado State- Nick Stevens
Penn St- Trace McSorley
Northwestern- Clayton Thorson
Ohio St- JT Barrett
Michigan- Wilton Speight
Florida State- Deondre Francois
Louisville- Lamar Jackson
Oklahoma- Baker Mayfield
West Virginia- Will Grier
Ok State- Mason Rudolph
Texas- Shane Bouchele
Houston- Kyle Allen
Purdue- David Blough
Syracuse- Eric Dungey
K State- Jesse Ertz
Stanford- Keller Chryst
Memphis- Riley Ferguson
South Florida- Flowers
Navy- Will Worth
Duke- Daniel Jones
Texas Tech- Nik Shimiek

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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:04:54 AM
Looks like the SEC finally has some QB's 


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Posted: 4/9/2017 11:17:55 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

Looks like the SEC finally has some QB's 



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Posted: 4/11/2017 11:01:27 PM
As Double Trouble stated:

The SEC has a stable of good quarterbacks.

Two guys I really like are at Auburn and Ole Miss.

This is going to be a fun season in the Southeastern Conference.

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Posted: 4/12/2017 7:35:00 PM
 The Pac-12 is certainly loaded.
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Posted: 4/13/2017 10:28:52 AM
Agee Mugg, heck just look at Los Angeles alone.

USC has Sam Darnold and cross town UCLA has Josh Rosen.

I'm interested to see if Alabama transfer Blake Barnett can win the Arizona State job.  Kid can throw it.
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:11:25 PM
Alabama- Jalen Hurts        look for him to run more...maybe 1k yds. Looks to be a manchild.....

Auburn- Jarrett Stidham
Ole Miss- Shea Patterson
Miss St- Nick Fitzgerald

LSU- Danny Etling             Not buying this guy at all......

Arkansas- Antonio Allen
Vandy- Kyle Shurmer

Mizzou- Drew Lock           Name has a ring to it...but performance is spotty against good competition

South Carolina- Jake Bently

Georgia- Jacob Eason        He's big......

USC- Sam Darnold          This guy can play, IMO the best in the country.

Oregon- Justin Herbert     Oregon is a likely trainwreck again this season.

Washington st- Luke Falk   I like him...but if there ever was a system QB, he is it.

Washington- Jake Browning    Continued growth will make this guy elite.

UCLA- Josh Rosen          A few early INT's and the media will place "the Rosen one" in the BUST category.

Wyoming- Josh Allen
Colorado- Steven Montez
Colorado State- Nick Stevens

Penn St- Trace McSorley    He's an old school gunslinger. For gunslingers, the mistakes usually outweigh the big plays.
 
Northwestern- Clayton Thorson   Not sold at all on this guy

Ohio St- JT Barrett        He's a gamer.....but OSU has to get the passing game going from the outside in.

Michigan- Wilton Speight      Harbaugh makes QBs better....this guy will look like a pro in 2017.

Florida State- Deondre Francois     Great raw talent.

Louisville- Lamar Jackson      Heisman jinx. Running hurts...look for less of it this year.

Oklahoma- Baker Mayfield     Bunches of TDs and YDS...but will fold in the big one.

West Virginia- Will Grier         Holgerson's O is good.....if he can execute WVU will be way better than last year.

Ok State- Mason Rudolph      I have no opinion. Watched him a bunch, but cannot seem to get a read on what he is all about.

Texas- Shane Bouchele       If there ever was a spot for a sophomore jinx, this is it. Coaching and scheme change.

Houston- Kyle Allen

Purdue- David Blough        I like him, but way too many mistakes.

Syracuse- Eric Dungey

K State- Jesse Ertz           Good runner, will excel in ball control.

Stanford- Keller Chryst      Needs to stay healthy....lots of tools and a solid player.

Memphis- Riley Ferguson
South Florida- Flowers
Navy- Will Worth
Duke- Daniel Jones

Texas Tech- Nik Shimiek      The air apparent for Kingsbury's last season?

Not sure of the kid's name, but the young guy for Baylor has an absolute pipe bomb for an arm.....
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Posted: 4/15/2017 1:15:27 AM
Yea, early reports are Jalen Hurts might actually lose his starting job to Tua Tagovailioa at Alabama... If it happens, I imagine it will be a few games into the season.

Clemson is going to be a very good team if they can figure out who is going to be there QB.  Their freshman QB Hunter Johnson who was the #1 ranked QB in the country looks like he's going to be very good, but he probably needs a couple of years, to get bigger, more confident. The problem for Johnson is that the #1 ranked player in the 2018 class, is also a QB, but this kid looks like a day 1 heisman candidate..
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:27:13 PM
Most average fans have never heard of Wyoming's Josh Allen.  Allen is 6-5, 225 pound QB who accounted for 3,726 yards of total offense last year.  If he can get help from some new receivers, he should put up some big numbers again for the Cowboys.

Guarantee you NFL scouts know who he is. 
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:44:04 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by alopez14325:

Yea, early reports are Jalen Hurts might actually lose his starting job to Tua Tagovailioa at Alabama... If it happens, I imagine it will be a few games into the season.

Clemson is going to be a very good team if they can figure out who is going to be there QB.  Their freshman QB Hunter Johnson who was the #1 ranked QB in the country looks like he's going to be very good, but he probably needs a couple of years, to get bigger, more confident. The problem for Johnson is that the #1 ranked player in the 2018 class, is also a QB, but this kid looks like a day 1 heisman candidate..


No chance Hurts isn't starting the season for Bama, unless he suffers an injury.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 8:53:47 AM
Interesting tidbit.  Eleven of the twelve programs in the Mountain West Conference return starting quarterbacks from the 2016 season.

Not sure I have ever seen that many returning starting quarterbacks from the same conference.

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Posted: 5/3/2017 2:57:23 PM
Eric Dungey for syracuse will put up some big numbers If he stays healthy. Big If. He has had two concussions. He has a strong arm, he is big, fast and is in an offense that will put up numbers. If he stays healthy all year he will have some of the biggest numbers in college football. If I had to bet money on it he will be knocked out by the 6th game.
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Posted: 5/5/2017 1:11:30 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by fsutomahawk:



No chance Hurts isn't starting the season for Bama, unless he suffers an injury.

I agree that Hurts will almost definitely be the starter for the opener against Florida State, but I wouldnt be surprised if Tua was the starting QB by week 5-6... If Hurts is struggling at all, they will have a ton of pressure to put Tua in.  I dont really like that these 5 star QB's are commiting to schools where they have a returning starting QB, who was only a freshman and also a 5 star recruit when they left high school.  If Alabama is just saying that it's a competition but giving the job to Hurts, they could lose the best QB recruit they have ever landed.  The same can be said with Jacob Eason and Jake Fromm at Georgia.  Clemson landed Hunter Johnson, the #1 QB prospect in the 2017 class, and # 20 overall prospect.  Unfortunately for Hunter Johnson, Clemson just landed the #1 QB in the 2018 class, Trevor Lawrence, who is also the #1 overall prospect.  Either way, one of the #1 QB's in the country will never start in college because there's another #1 QB at the same school.
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Posted: 5/5/2017 1:22:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by WalterTibbs:

Most average fans have never heard of Wyoming's Josh Allen.  Allen is 6-5, 225 pound QB who accounted for 3,726 yards of total offense last year.  If he can get help from some new receivers, he should put up some big numbers again for the Cowboys.

Guarantee you NFL scouts know who he is. 

I really dont understand why Josh Allen is getting so much hype, he has elite measurables, a strong arm, and plays in a pro style offense, but I was pretty unimpressed by his actual play.  I agree he has upside, but scouts are suggesting he's a franchise QB, which is very premature imo.  He should improve in his 2nd season, but he only completed 56% of his passes for 3200 yards, 28 TD's and 15 Int's.  He's losing his best three pass catchers; WR Tanner Gentry, WR Jake Maulhardt and TE Jacob Hollister.  He will also be without the programs best RB Brian Hill, and best OLineman Chase Rouiller.  
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Posted: 5/5/2017 1:31:06 AM
When you actually look at Josh Allen's stats, it's almost laughable that he's being lauded at some type of cant miss QB prospect.  

Vs Nebraska 16/32 189 yards, 50%, 1 TD 5 Int's
@ E Michigan 19/29 234 yards 65% 0 TD 1 Int
@ Colorado St 7/19 165 yards 39% 1 TD 0 Int
UNLV 14/31 334 yards 45% 4 TD 2 Int
SDST 16/31 282 yards 50% 2 TD 1 INT
SDST 14/31 248 yards 45% 3 TD 2 Int's
BYU 17/32 207 yards 53% 2 TD 2 INT
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Posted: 5/5/2017 1:41:20 AM
I mean look at those stats and look at who they were playing,  I'm not saying he's bad, but he need's a lot of work.  He has to be the most overhyped player in college football.  I know he is 6'5 230lbs with a big arm, but he turns the ball over way too much, and lacks great accuracy.  A lot of people are suggesting he should be a top 5 pick, which is crazy.  At this point he's a poor mans Deshone Kizer, but fortunately for him, he's only going to be a junior and has some time to develop.
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Posted: 5/5/2017 2:52:49 AM
Mason Rudolph is a stud, guy can flat out zing it!
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Posted: 5/9/2017 3:04:00 PM
I can't wait for college foots. 


A little of this 

A little of this 

And a little of this   

Lets say you are a dead average bettor at a reduced odds on line book. You bet 20 bucks a game and you lose 5% a game. For one stinkin' dollar you are making a three hour game between the Toledo Turdballs and Kentucky Knobobbers worth hooting and hollering over. Ya can't beat it. 



Early in the year I love fading teams with rookie QB's versus experienced QB's. Don't overthink it gents, each year the passing game is  little more important,. 
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:33:47 AM
Lot's of veteran quarterbacks returning this season.  Take a look in the Power Five conferences.

SEC (11)
Big Ten (8)
Big 12  (7)
Pac 12  (10)
ACC  (7)


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Posted: 5/12/2017 8:12:54 AM
Of the four Independents, only Notre Dame doesn't have a starting quarterback returning.

Army, UMass and BYU are set to go.   
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Posted: 5/12/2017 8:17:22 PM
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Originally Posted by syracusejoe:

Eric Dungey for syracuse will put up some big numbers If he stays healthy. Big If. He has had two concussions. He has a strong arm, he is big, fast and is in an offense that will put up numbers. If he stays healthy all year he will have some of the biggest numbers in college football. If I had to bet money on it he will be knocked out by the 6th game.

Right on Joe...have some confidence in Dungey staying healthy.  He has 20 starters around him who will make sure he's around all season.  I have a hunch he will be a full timer this season.  GL
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Posted: 5/13/2017 1:48:45 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

 The Pac-12 is certainly loaded.
Pac-12 is always loaded at QB.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 3:03:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by alopez14325:

When you actually look at Josh Allen's stats, it's almost laughable that he's being lauded at some type of cant miss QB prospect.  Vs Nebraska 16/32 189 yards, 50%, 1 TD 5 Int's@ E Michigan 19/29 234 yards 65% 0 TD 1 Int@ Colorado St 7/19 165 yards 39% 1 TD 0 IntUNLV 14/31 334 yards 45% 4 TD 2 IntSDST 16/31 282 yards 50% 2 TD 1 INTSDST 14/31 248 yards 45% 3 TD 2 Int'sBYU 17/32 207 yards 53% 2 TD 2 INT

I don't get it either. Rudolph of the Oklahoma State Cowboys would be the one to watch.
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