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Posted: 5/15/2017 7:28:39 AM
Big 12 Conference Starters 2017

(Total, Offense, QB Returns, Defense)

TCU  (17)...10...1...7
Texas  (17)...7...1...10
Oklahoma  (16)...9...1...7
Baylor  (14)...7...0...7
Kansas St.  (14)...8...1...6
Texas Tech  (14)...8...0...6
Iowa State  (12)...6...1...6
Kansas  (12)...8...1...4
Oklahoma St.  (12)...7...1...5
West Virginia  (8)...5...0...3

**Seventy percent of the league's starting quarterbacks return.
**Eight of the ten league teams return at least 7 starters on offense.

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Posted: 5/16/2017 12:31:32 PM
ARKANSAS - The Razorbacks expected Rawleigh Williams (1,326 yards, 10 touchdowns), the third leading running back in the SEC, back in 2017.  But after a neck injury in the spring, his second in two years, Williams announced he will retire from football.  That's only the latest setback for a heavily rebuilding Hog offense.  With Williams gone, five of the top six receiving options and two of the top three rushers are out.  The onus immediately shifts to true sophomore RB Devwah Whaley and an inexperienced group of receivers. 

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Posted: 5/17/2017 8:04:52 AM
LOUISVILLE - After heavy personnel losses, it's fair to wonder if Louisville is a playoff contender.  But among the "big three" in the ACC Atlantic, the Cards have the most manageable schedule.  Unlike Florida State and Clemson, Louisville won't face a truly elite non-conference foe and will avoid cross-divisional games with ACC Coastal heavyweights Miami and Virginia Tech.  Therefore the Cardinals entire season could come down to those matchups with Florida State and Clemson.  Louisville probably won't be favored in either game, but considering last season's results, it isn't inconceivable that they win both games.  Do that, and Louisville could be the surprise of the College Football Playoff.

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Posted: 5/18/2017 9:26:43 AM
Pac 12 Conference Starters 2017

(Total, Offense, QB Returning, Defense)

Oregon  (17)...8...1...9
Stanford  (16)...8...1...8
Wash St.  (16)...7...1...9
Arizona St.  (15)...7...1...8
Oregon St.  (15)...7...1...8
UCLA  (15)...9...1...6
Arizona  (14)...7...1...7
Cal  (14)...6...0...8
Wash  (13)...7...1...6
Colorado  (12)...9...0...3
USC  (12)...5...1...7
Utah  (11)...5...1...6

**Ten of the twelve teams will return a starting quarterback.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 7:37:58 AM
GEORGIA STATE - The Panthers will have a new head coach in Shawn Ellliott and 14 starters returning from a team that won only three games last year. Elliott served as South Carolina's interim head coach after Steve Spurrier retired during the season.  The Gamecock' hired Will Muschamp opening the door for Georgia State top hire a coach with experience in the SEC and also had previously worked at Appalachian State, a potent Sun Belt Conference team.  While he returns a wide range of players, Elliott has opened up all positions for competition and many starting jobs won't be settled until fall camp.  The team has the most work to do on offense after ranking 119th
 out of 128 FBS teams in total offense last year.  Another tough season for the rebuilding Sun Belt team.

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Posted: 5/20/2017 10:54:18 AM
GEORGIA - The Bulldogs are the textbook definition of a sleeping giant.  The state produces plenty of blue-chip talent each year, and the SEC East remains a division ripe for the taking.  The Dawgs' offense has two star running backs in Nick Chubb and Sony Michel, and quarterback Jacob Eason has a year of experience under his belt.  For all the hype East division foe Tennessee has received lately, Georgia is the program that feels like it's on the verge of exploding.  Seventeen starters return including ten on defense and second year coach Kirby Smart also has a year under his belt and that should prove huge this season.  He definitely made a lot of rookie mistakes last year.  Georgia should win the SEC East...the question is will they?

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Posted: 5/21/2017 7:40:29 AM
Independent Starters Returning 2017

(Total, Offense, QB Returning, Defense)

Army (16)...9...1...7
Notre Dame (15)...8...0...7
UMass (14)...6...1...8
BYU (12)...6...1...6

**Notre Dame better find a quality quarterback fast.
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Posted: 5/21/2017 7:46:28 AM
RUTGERS - It can't get much worse, right?  Rutgers scored seven points or fewer six times in an abysmal 2-10 season that looked like a repeat of the sorry days of the 1990s.  This is a steep REBUILD for coach Chris Ash and the Scarlet Knights.

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Posted: 5/22/2017 10:55:24 AM
ARMY - The Black Knights won their first bowl since 2010, beat Navy for the first time since 2001, and won eight games for the first time since 1996 last year.  Can an experienced team with 16 starters back avoid a hangover and make some noise this fall?  Army's efficient run game (No. 3 nationally) returns nine starters including the quarterback and nine of last years top rushers.  The offense avoided negative plays, converted in short yardage, and wouldn't let opponents have the ball.  More of the same is expected this season.  On defense, seven starters return including 15 of Army's leading tacklers.  The defense ranked No. 8 in total defense last year and should be stout again this season against what could be considered a pretty light schedule.  With a break or two, I look for the Cadets to go to their second straight bowl game.

Fordham....Buffalo....@Ohio State....@Tulane....UTEP....@Rice....Eastern Michigan....Temple....@Air Force....Duke....@North Texas....vs Navy

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Posted: 5/22/2017 12:52:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by WalterTibbs:

RUTGERS - It can't get much worse, right?  Rutgers scored seven points or fewer six times in an abysmal 2-10 season that looked like a repeat of the sorry days of the 1990s.  This is a steep REBUILD for coach Chris Ash and the Scarlet Knights.

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I am looking at Washington in week 1 against Rutgers...They have to travel 3 time zones, and Ash is known for Defense with a lot of returning starters.   Will this be like the Ohio State and Michigan games for Rutgers last year, or will what I forecast to be a 28 pt spread on the road be too much for Washington to cover?
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quote#111
Posted: 5/23/2017 7:43:43 AM
SOUTHERN CAL - The Trojans finished 2016 one of the hottest teams in college football.  They closed the season with nine straight wins, including a thrilling 52-49 last-second win over Penn State in the Rose Bowl.  USC ended up No. 3 nationally in the final polls.  Head coach Clay Helton returns 14 starters, including star quarterback Sam Donald who threw 31 touchdowns in 2016.  USC's schedule is set up for success with many of the toughest opponents traveling to Los Angeles.  The Trojans open the season with a three-game home stand verses Western Michigan, Texas and Stanford.  The toughest road games are at Washington State, Colorado and Notre Dame.  They also host Utah and UCLA.  Absent from the schedule are Washington and Oregon.  Many are picking USC as the favorite to win the Pac 12 conference.

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Posted: 5/23/2017 11:11:04 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:


I am looking at Washington in week 1 against Rutgers...They have to travel 3 time zones, and Ash is known for Defense with a lot of returning starters.   Will this be like the Ohio State and Michigan games for Rutgers last year, or will what I forecast to be a 28 pt spread on the road be too much for Washington to cover?

Longhorn, this is a Friday night first game of the season where Washington will probably come in two days early so I don't see any problem with them traveling across country.  As far as Rutgers defense, yeah, they have eight starters back who were 118th in scoring defense and 105th in total defense.  Unless Ash finds some strong replacements...well, you get the picture.
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:45:55 AM
KENT STATE - It's been a tough run for Kent State since the program posted a record setting 11-win season in 2012.  Ever since then, the Golden Flashes have failed to put together a winning season, wrapping up their second consecutive three win season in 2016.  But despite their struggles, last year's team made some progress with four of the nine losses decided by five points or less.  Unfortunately, none of the team's wins came against schools with a winning record.  Six starters return on a defense that finished fourth in the MAC in total defense.  Flipside is the offense finished last in the league in total offense for the second consecutive season.  The program doesn't seem to be making much headway in the win column and attendance for home games has dropped badly.  Kent State will open at Clemson this season. Ouch!  They also have a September 23rd game at Louisville. Ouch!

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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:13:33 AM
WASHINGTON STATE - Quarterback Luke Falk has put up huge numbers in Pullman under Mike Leach's Air Raid offense.  In 2016, Falk ranked fourth nationally with 4,468 yards passing and 38 touchdowns.  He's a 2018 first-round NFL prospect with plenty of game experience and a strong supporting cast.  Leach returns 16 starters, nine on a much improved defense.  One slip up by Washington and the Cougars will win the North Division.

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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:24:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by WalterTibbs:

WASHINGTON STATE - Quarterback Luke Falk has put up huge numbers in Pullman under Mike Leach's Air Raid offense.  In 2016, Falk ranked fourth nationally with 4,468 yards passing and 38 touchdowns.  He's a 2018 first-round NFL prospect with plenty of game experience and a strong supporting cast.  Leach returns 16 starters, nine on a much improved defense.  One slip up by Washington and the Cougars will win the North Division.

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This is my team this year......Best QB in CF IMO and this team will cover like crazy......They will avoid the slow start this year and run out to a 5-0 start and will win 9 - 10 games....
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:28:47 AM
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AUBURN - (Best Case Scenario)  They pull off the upset over the rebuilding Clemson team early on, setting the tone for a relatively easy part of the season.  They get to 6-0 before going to LSU, and win two of the three straight road games before dealing with Georgia.  They're 8-1 before going into the final three weeks with Georgia and Alabama at home to get to the SEC Championship Game.  While 11-`1 might be too much to ask for, 10-2 is possible and 9-3 more likely.  As long as the Tigers get to the Bama game with a chance to win the West Division, everything should be going along well.  Did I mention best case scenario?

Ga Southern.....@Clemson.....Mercer.....@Missouri.....Miss State.....Ole Miss.....@LSU.....@Arkansas.....Open.....@Texas A&M.....Georgia.....La-Monroe.....Alabama

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Are you on that OVER 8 team wins Walt?
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:35:29 AM
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Are you on that OVER 8 team wins Walt?

Yes I am Mike.

Now that they have a QB to run the offense to go along with a top notch defense...this team will challenge for the SEC West.

I'm saying this as a Bama supporter! 
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Posted: 5/25/2017 11:53:38 AM
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STANFORD - How the offensive line comes together is the top offseason story for the Cardinal, along with the quarterback competition.  That's not something you expect from Stanford, but ultimately, it might not matter who's under center if he's running for his life every play.  Stanford's offense relied too heavily on running back Christian McCaffrey in the past, but it will be difficult for new playmakers to emerge if plays don't have time to develop.  Keep an eye on how the Cards offensive line plays early.

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This team has averaged more than 10 wins a season ( w/ bowl games) over the last seven years...And how good is David Shaw, this guy could lead the Kansas roster to 7 wins.......This team will be dangerous again and will not miss Mcaffrey much as they continue to pound the rock behind Shaws always great OL and in his pro-style O.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 12:02:51 PM
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This team has averaged more than 10 wins a season ( w/ bowl games) over the last seven years...And how good is David Shaw, this guy could lead the Kansas roster to 7 wins.......This team will be dangerous again and will not miss Mcaffrey much as they continue to pound the rock behind Shaws always great OL and in his pro-style O.

"always great OL "was an over statement.......They were much better at run blocking and did struggle at pass protection at times.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 1:29:12 PM
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"always great OL "was an over statement.......They were much better at run blocking and did struggle at pass protection at times.

True that.  Stanford was 101st nationally giving up quarterback sacks and 121st in team QB sack percentage.  Starting QB Keller Chryst injured his knee in the Sun Bowl and is doubtful for the first few games.  Shaw certainly doesn't want to have a one legged QB playing if the offensive line can't protect him.

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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:33:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by WalterTibbs:


Longhorn, this is a Friday night first game of the season where Washington will probably come in two days early so I don't see any problem with them traveling across country.  As far as Rutgers defense, yeah, they have eight starters back who were 118th in scoring defense and 105th in total defense.  Unless Ash finds some strong replacements...well, you get the picture.

Now here's something I picked up from Bookie Assassin. Looking at the fall semester starting times for both schools. Washington starts Monday, August 28th while Rutgers starts Tuesday, September 5th. Game is on Friday, September 1st. So Washington players have the added distraction of classes before this first game while Rutgers does not.
Not sure what the stats are for this type of situation.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:29:13 PM
Uniman, I don't know who the hell Bookie Assassin is but he is getting a little far out in the weeds for my taste.

If the New York Yankees were playing their Double A team and for some charity cause were driving taxi cabs before the game would you be concerned?  Not me!

Washington is an elite team who played in the Championship playoffs last year.  Rutgers is Double A team at best if you get my drift.

Fucken mismatch men.  Totally don't understand the love for Rutgers.

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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:07:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by WalterTibbs:

Uniman, I don't know who the hell Bookie Assassin is but he is getting a little far out in the weeds for my taste.

If the New York Yankees were playing their Double A team and for some charity cause were driving taxi cabs before the game would you be concerned?  Not me!

Washington is an elite team who played in the Championship playoffs last year.  Rutgers is Double A team at best if you get my drift.

Fucken mismatch men.  Totally don't understand the love for Rutgers.


It is a mismatch.  Nobody is denying that.  Washington will win comfortably.  But the great equalizer in a mismatch is.... the point spread.  All of the "love" for Rutgers is based on a large point spread.  I personally like taking the points here (small play at +31.5) -- won't get into the reasons tonight.  Don't have the time.  

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Posted: 5/26/2017 8:01:20 AM
FLORIDA ATLANTIC - Lane Kiffin enters his first season at FAU with a 35-21 record as a college head coach.  The former Alabama offensive coordinator has instantly brought energy and enthusiasm to Boca Raton, generating more national media attention and a spike in season ticket sales.  He inherits an experienced roster with nine starters on both sides of the ball.  While FAU returns numerous players, they don't all fit Kiffin's system.  He inherits a defense that ranked 124th out of 128 teams in total defense allowing 514 yards per game.  The offense tried to push the tempo last year, but made too many mistakes and was 98th in turnover margin.  Kiffin had a good recruiting class and will improve on last season's 3-9 record.  Just how much improvement is the big question.

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Posted: 5/26/2017 9:57:47 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TD21:


It is a mismatch.  Nobody is denying that.  Washington will win comfortably.  But the great equalizer in a mismatch is.... the point spread.  All of the "love" for Rutgers is based on a large point spread.  I personally like taking the points here (small play at +31.5) -- won't get into the reasons tonight.  Don't have the time.  


The beauty of a good sports forum is each poster has the opportunity to express his/her opinion on games, etc.. Selecting winners on a regular basis can be difficult at times, so I love to read other posters view on games.  Makes this place fun and hopefully we all pick up some valuable information that leads to the pay window.

TD21, I like Washington...you like Rutgers.  That's what makes the betting world go round.  Rutgers will be a Public pick from what I've read here at the forum.

Thanks Bud....appreciate your input.  


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