Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
PRETTY SURE THAT DID'NT STOP FSU FROM EASILY GETTING TO THE TOP 4 LAST YEAR!
FSU in 14 and OSU in 15 were very similar.... Only difference was the OSU lost in the regular season. Both rode their merits from the previous season, both had turmoil in the offseason and during the year, both benefited from a weak schedule and both were eventually exposed when facing legit competition.
PRETTY SURE THAT DID'NT STOP FSU FROM EASILY GETTING TO THE TOP 4 LAST YEAR!
FSU in 14 and OSU in 15 were very similar.... Only difference was the OSU lost in the regular season. Both rode their merits from the previous season, both had turmoil in the offseason and during the year, both benefited from a weak schedule and both were eventually exposed when facing legit competition.
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
It was pouring rain and the wind was constantly blowing at 20+ mph. You didn't really hear about that from the telecasters though.
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
It was pouring rain and the wind was constantly blowing at 20+ mph. You didn't really hear about that from the telecasters though.
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
lol, no, that's what he did today though and it sort of worked well. Rutgers didn't score until like the last minute of the game and they haven't played Purdue since 2013. Try to be more wrong next time.
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
lol, no, that's what he did today though and it sort of worked well. Rutgers didn't score until like the last minute of the game and they haven't played Purdue since 2013. Try to be more wrong next time.
lol, no, that's what he did today though and it sort of worked well. Rutgers didn't score until like the last minute of the game and they haven't played Purdue since 2013. Try to be more wrong next time.
Biggest win for OSU in Ann Arbor since 1961....maybe kammer didn't see the azz kicking that took place today
lol, no, that's what he did today though and it sort of worked well. Rutgers didn't score until like the last minute of the game and they haven't played Purdue since 2013. Try to be more wrong next time.
Biggest win for OSU in Ann Arbor since 1961....maybe kammer didn't see the azz kicking that took place today
FSU in 14 and OSU in 15 were very similar.... Only difference was the OSU lost in the regular season. Both rode their merits from the previous season, both had turmoil in the offseason and during the year, both benefited from a weak schedule and both were eventually exposed when facing legit competition.
Sounds like every SEC team.
Alabama loss to Ole Miss who loss to MEMPHIS, Arkansas, and Florida. Their marquee win is LSU...?
I mean, come on, let's objectively look at schedules and scores.
OSU lost to MSU a 1 loss team currently ranked 5th.... by 3 points.... in horrid weather. Oh... but MSU should have 1 more loss because of the michigan game, okay now OSU beat a 1 loss Michigan instead.
In the end, OSU will have played better competition then Alabama. If you want to argue that Alabama had better games? OSU lost by less to MSU then Alabama lost by. Alabama played very weakly against Tennessee and Arkansas. OSU was playing with a different QB at the beginning of the year... Alabama has been playing with the same line up all year. etc etc etc
FSU in 14 and OSU in 15 were very similar.... Only difference was the OSU lost in the regular season. Both rode their merits from the previous season, both had turmoil in the offseason and during the year, both benefited from a weak schedule and both were eventually exposed when facing legit competition.
Sounds like every SEC team.
Alabama loss to Ole Miss who loss to MEMPHIS, Arkansas, and Florida. Their marquee win is LSU...?
I mean, come on, let's objectively look at schedules and scores.
OSU lost to MSU a 1 loss team currently ranked 5th.... by 3 points.... in horrid weather. Oh... but MSU should have 1 more loss because of the michigan game, okay now OSU beat a 1 loss Michigan instead.
In the end, OSU will have played better competition then Alabama. If you want to argue that Alabama had better games? OSU lost by less to MSU then Alabama lost by. Alabama played very weakly against Tennessee and Arkansas. OSU was playing with a different QB at the beginning of the year... Alabama has been playing with the same line up all year. etc etc etc
The only definitive team in, for sure, is one Big 10 team - either Iowa or MSU.
Alabama and Clemson are both in with a win in their conference championship games.
That leaves one remaining spot.
The current order is probably:
1) Oklahoma
2) ND
3) Iowa/Ohio St. (if Iowa loses, they would have 1 loss and are in the conversation, but my guess is that Ohio St. would move ahead of them).
ND and Oklahoma have tough games this evening on the road. I think both of these teams have to lose for the Buckeyes to realistically have a chance to get in since Clemson (and especially Alabama) will be prohibitive favorites in their championship games.
So, their is still a road for the Buckeyes to get into the top 4, but it's going to need probably 2 teams ahead of them to lose for them to even be in that category.
Well done cubd80 Agree that they are one of the 4 best teams, but it doesn't matter if Clemson,Bama, Sparty , and Oklahoma all take care of business.
The only definitive team in, for sure, is one Big 10 team - either Iowa or MSU.
Alabama and Clemson are both in with a win in their conference championship games.
That leaves one remaining spot.
The current order is probably:
1) Oklahoma
2) ND
3) Iowa/Ohio St. (if Iowa loses, they would have 1 loss and are in the conversation, but my guess is that Ohio St. would move ahead of them).
ND and Oklahoma have tough games this evening on the road. I think both of these teams have to lose for the Buckeyes to realistically have a chance to get in since Clemson (and especially Alabama) will be prohibitive favorites in their championship games.
So, their is still a road for the Buckeyes to get into the top 4, but it's going to need probably 2 teams ahead of them to lose for them to even be in that category.
Well done cubd80 Agree that they are one of the 4 best teams, but it doesn't matter if Clemson,Bama, Sparty , and Oklahoma all take care of business.
Guys can we bring up a very REAL possibility... I honestly think bama and the big ten winner is in... but dont forget how high osu jumped last year... what if NORTH CAROLINA beats clemson... i think ppl are leaving out that they have a chance still
Guys can we bring up a very REAL possibility... I honestly think bama and the big ten winner is in... but dont forget how high osu jumped last year... what if NORTH CAROLINA beats clemson... i think ppl are leaving out that they have a chance still
FSU in 14 and OSU in 15 were very similar.... Only difference was the OSU lost in the regular season. Both rode their merits from the previous season, both had turmoil in the offseason and during the year, both benefited from a weak schedule and both were eventually exposed when facing legit competition.
FSU in 14 and OSU in 15 were very similar.... Only difference was the OSU lost in the regular season. Both rode their merits from the previous season, both had turmoil in the offseason and during the year, both benefited from a weak schedule and both were eventually exposed when facing legit competition.
Read the post again. I compared Florida State the year after their title to the Buckeyes the year after their title (THIS YEAR).
The difference is that FSU was playing in a soft ACC conference. The difference is that the B1G has multiple top 10 teams and other conferences this year have consistently left questons as to how how good they are (see: no 1 loss pac team; top 25 SEC teams and who their teams lost to; tcu and baylor qbs going down before oklahoma playing them).
I agree Ohio State essentially has no chance of getting in, that doesn't mean I don't think they don't deserve a chance. If it was a top 8 championship, we would more likely be saying: SEC gets 1 team, ACC gets 1-2 team, Big 12 gets 1-2 teams, ND/Pac12 might get in depending on tonight, and the B1G gets 2-3 teams in
Read the post again. I compared Florida State the year after their title to the Buckeyes the year after their title (THIS YEAR).
The difference is that FSU was playing in a soft ACC conference. The difference is that the B1G has multiple top 10 teams and other conferences this year have consistently left questons as to how how good they are (see: no 1 loss pac team; top 25 SEC teams and who their teams lost to; tcu and baylor qbs going down before oklahoma playing them).
I agree Ohio State essentially has no chance of getting in, that doesn't mean I don't think they don't deserve a chance. If it was a top 8 championship, we would more likely be saying: SEC gets 1 team, ACC gets 1-2 team, Big 12 gets 1-2 teams, ND/Pac12 might get in depending on tonight, and the B1G gets 2-3 teams in
Guys can we bring up a very REAL possibility... I honestly think bama and the big ten winner is in... but dont forget how high osu jumped last year... what if NORTH CAROLINA beats clemson... i think ppl are leaving out that they have a chance still
If Clemson were to lose to them, it would come down to how much they value having a team be rewarded from that conference, and if NC were to win, they would have to leapfrog a few teams to be represent. Perhaps I shouldn't say it wouldn't happen, but I would be very surprised.
Guys can we bring up a very REAL possibility... I honestly think bama and the big ten winner is in... but dont forget how high osu jumped last year... what if NORTH CAROLINA beats clemson... i think ppl are leaving out that they have a chance still
If Clemson were to lose to them, it would come down to how much they value having a team be rewarded from that conference, and if NC were to win, they would have to leapfrog a few teams to be represent. Perhaps I shouldn't say it wouldn't happen, but I would be very surprised.
The committee will place a lot of emphasis on conference champions.......Ohio State didn't even win a division of their conference. Unfortunately, the SEC is the only conference that can pull that off.
The committee will place a lot of emphasis on conference champions.......Ohio State didn't even win a division of their conference. Unfortunately, the SEC is the only conference that can pull that off.
I don't see ANY way the winner of the Big Ten championship game is NOT in the Final Four. IF Iowa they would be undefeated. IF my Spartans they would have ONE loss by 1 point in the "Grand Theft Ref" game @ Nebraska AND beat Ohio State.
think the ONLY way Ohio State still has an outside chance would be for MSU to beat up on Iowa next week, UNC beat Clemson (could happen) and Florida beat Alabama (doubtful) THEN they might "squeek". agree the winner of Oklahoma @ Oklahoma State probably iN
I don't see ANY way the winner of the Big Ten championship game is NOT in the Final Four. IF Iowa they would be undefeated. IF my Spartans they would have ONE loss by 1 point in the "Grand Theft Ref" game @ Nebraska AND beat Ohio State.
think the ONLY way Ohio State still has an outside chance would be for MSU to beat up on Iowa next week, UNC beat Clemson (could happen) and Florida beat Alabama (doubtful) THEN they might "squeek". agree the winner of Oklahoma @ Oklahoma State probably iN
If Clemson were to lose to them, it would come down to how much they value having a team be rewarded from that conference, and if NC were to win, they would have to leapfrog a few teams to be represent. Perhaps I shouldn't say it wouldn't happen, but I would be very surprised.
they will go to 7 or 8 after this week... 5 teams will have lost... who would they have to leap frog... ohio state is it because the big ten teams play each other... im telling you guys... if Notre dame loses this game... clemson unc winner is in
If Clemson were to lose to them, it would come down to how much they value having a team be rewarded from that conference, and if NC were to win, they would have to leapfrog a few teams to be represent. Perhaps I shouldn't say it wouldn't happen, but I would be very surprised.
they will go to 7 or 8 after this week... 5 teams will have lost... who would they have to leap frog... ohio state is it because the big ten teams play each other... im telling you guys... if Notre dame loses this game... clemson unc winner is in
they will go to 7 or 8 after this week... 5 teams will have lost... who would they have to leap frog... ohio state is it because the big ten teams play each other... im telling you guys... if Notre dame loses this game... clemson unc winner is in
The North Carolina argument is similar to what Ohio St. had last year, if I can recall correctly.
You do make a convincing argument - the only difference is that they'd be taking a team that hasn't been in the top 10 all season, until the final week. That may not mean much, but only pointing out that all season, they have been overlooked.
they will go to 7 or 8 after this week... 5 teams will have lost... who would they have to leap frog... ohio state is it because the big ten teams play each other... im telling you guys... if Notre dame loses this game... clemson unc winner is in
The North Carolina argument is similar to what Ohio St. had last year, if I can recall correctly.
You do make a convincing argument - the only difference is that they'd be taking a team that hasn't been in the top 10 all season, until the final week. That may not mean much, but only pointing out that all season, they have been overlooked.
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
lol, no, that's what he did today though and it sort of worked well. Rutgers didn't score until like the last minute of the game and they haven't played Purdue since 2013.get a clue rutget was kicking their ass take out purdue and put in western, central, and eastern michigan they got scored on against everyone.Meyer gave that game away and now he can watch the playoffs at home.It's one thing to lose a game, its anothet to not try to win , did u see the game?
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
lol, no, that's what he did today though and it sort of worked well. Rutgers didn't score until like the last minute of the game and they haven't played Purdue since 2013.get a clue rutget was kicking their ass take out purdue and put in western, central, and eastern michigan they got scored on against everyone.Meyer gave that game away and now he can watch the playoffs at home.It's one thing to lose a game, its anothet to not try to win , did u see the game?
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
lol, no, that's what he did today though and it sort of worked well. Rutgers didn't score until like the last minute of the game and they haven't played Purdue since 2013. Try to be more wrong next time.
I'm saying state playing purdue and rutgers not ohio state playing them, read much
Urban meyer is a joke, he never tried to win last week.rutgers, maryland, purdue,, etc all passed on state all day.meyer runs up the middle with barret all game.That game was a joke and so is meyer.
lol, no, that's what he did today though and it sort of worked well. Rutgers didn't score until like the last minute of the game and they haven't played Purdue since 2013. Try to be more wrong next time.
I'm saying state playing purdue and rutgers not ohio state playing them, read much
The committee will place a lot of emphasis on conference champions.......Ohio State didn't even win a division of their conference. Unfortunately, the SEC is the only conference that can pull that off.
Yeah, I can't see a team that finished 3rd in their conference get in, especially losing to 3rd stringers at home as a DD fave.
The committee will place a lot of emphasis on conference champions.......Ohio State didn't even win a division of their conference. Unfortunately, the SEC is the only conference that can pull that off.
Yeah, I can't see a team that finished 3rd in their conference get in, especially losing to 3rd stringers at home as a DD fave.
Winner of ACC is in now. If North Carolina wins I think they're in as 3rd or 4th seed.
Winner of B1G is in no matter what happens, too many highly ranked teams in the conference.
Oklahoma is the only Big 12 team with 1 loss after tonight and there's no way they're getting left out again.
Alabama is a shoe-in if they win.... however if they lose that leaves space for OSU to get in based on MSU getting in and MSU only beating OSU by 3 points and then them soundly beating Michigan. However Iowa might get in as a 1 loss as well based on some crazy situation. I don't see any 2 loss teams being able to get in other then possibly Alabama with a 1 loss OSU standing most likely at 6th behind a 5th ranked msu and 4th ranked Iowa.
Winner of ACC is in now. If North Carolina wins I think they're in as 3rd or 4th seed.
Winner of B1G is in no matter what happens, too many highly ranked teams in the conference.
Oklahoma is the only Big 12 team with 1 loss after tonight and there's no way they're getting left out again.
Alabama is a shoe-in if they win.... however if they lose that leaves space for OSU to get in based on MSU getting in and MSU only beating OSU by 3 points and then them soundly beating Michigan. However Iowa might get in as a 1 loss as well based on some crazy situation. I don't see any 2 loss teams being able to get in other then possibly Alabama with a 1 loss OSU standing most likely at 6th behind a 5th ranked msu and 4th ranked Iowa.
Yeah, I can't see a team that finished 3rd in their conference get in, especially losing to 3rd stringers at home as a DD fave.
Well, Ohio State won the national championship with a 3rd string qb last year.
You sound more like you're talking from a homer stand point, rather then looking at it objectively. Do they have much of a chance? no. But they have more of a chance then most other teams.
I would like to point out how Ole Miss beat Alabama at Alabama. If Alabama loses, with FSU just beating Florida extremely easily, it's pretty easy to see both the SEC and the Pac 12 being left out.
Yeah, I can't see a team that finished 3rd in their conference get in, especially losing to 3rd stringers at home as a DD fave.
Well, Ohio State won the national championship with a 3rd string qb last year.
You sound more like you're talking from a homer stand point, rather then looking at it objectively. Do they have much of a chance? no. But they have more of a chance then most other teams.
I would like to point out how Ole Miss beat Alabama at Alabama. If Alabama loses, with FSU just beating Florida extremely easily, it's pretty easy to see both the SEC and the Pac 12 being left out.
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