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Posted: 9/10/2013 8:46:43 PM
 This game IMO has been hyped up more then the last 2 National Championship games. But for many many weeks now I have been in deep thought about this game. This game too intrigues me not only as gambler, but as a fan too. The real simple question is, who will win? Plain and simple. I know that sounds like the dull not out of the box type of question, but simply it's really the only question that matters. As I said, I have been really thinking and studying this game for some time and I have what I think is a pretty good take on it.

Several years ago, 2007 to be exact. Alabama was a football team that was simply looking for it's way. They had tons of historical football tradition, but they were stuck in what alot of programs go through from time to time called the " Dark Ages ". This was a program that lost to teams like N. Illinois at home, which btw.... snapped a 23 game losing streak by doing so. Can you imagine Alabama losing to team at home now that was currently on a 23 game losing streak? So yeah, are you with me now? This was a program that was trying to " find it's way ". A very loyal fan base too. A fan Base that was dying for a winner. A fan base that was hungry and desperate to re gain it's power. Then came Nick Saban. A guy who most didn't like. To be honest with you alot of Alabama fans were not happy he was hired when he was. Alot of you probably don't remember but Bama actually offered the job to Rich Rod first, LOL. But nevertheless Nick came and turned the program around.

Alabama's re gain to national power actually came at the hands of the Clemson tigers in 2008 when the season opened. I remember it quite well too, we were -4.5 point favorites. But Alabama won that game that night and really to use the term, the program was " born again ". Alabama football was back.

From 2008 to about 2011 the fans, players and Alum were what I thought grateful. They were humble and thankful that there once mighty and powerful program was again on top. They loved it. It had be too long and as I said, they were certainly grateful for it. But, somewhere around the end of the 2011 season these fans, Alums and players have grown to become arrogant and ungrateful. They almost seem as the universe is Alabama, and we are all just the small planets hovering around them. At times I have seen there fans laugh and snicker at the thought of someone competing with them. They have become delusional at times and not having the ability to see truth in front of them as they once did when they were humble and thankful. Now when you talk to the Alabama fans they have a " swag " about them as if you don't exist and neither does your opinion.

Since the beatdown Johnny football gave Alabama last November. The Alabama fans, Alum and players have stated that a beatdown is coming their way this Saturday like they have never seen before. Forget the X's and O's of the game of football! We are Alabama! You will not embarrass us. This game is already decided! WE ARE ALABAMA! We hate you for not being a 20 year old kid. We hate you because you made us look like fools! How dare anyone challenge us, we are Alabama!

The media, Alabama influenced ( Paul Finebaum ) has made a point to try and destroy the image or anything that has to do with Johnny Football. These guys HATE Johnny football. The state of Alabama hates Johnny Football. They have tried anything and everything to destroy this kids name. I have never in my life seen a flat out attack on a kid like these guys have done with Johnny. Yeah Johnny has done somethings that he shouldn't have like talking smack on the field or using his twitter account to voice his frustrations. But what really has he done to be labeled as this guy who is the worst human on the planet? Signed some autographs for money? Yeah, you would too, right? Went to a few concerts and got to meet the stars of the show? Yeah, I would too and so would you....had we had the chance. What else? Screwed more chicks then the average college guy? Yeah, none of you would have I bet. So what has he really done? He beat Alabama. That's his crime. He beat the all-knowing, most arrogant, most delusional, most self serving fans...alums.... media base and players in the game. How dare he challenge our spotlight! So what do we do? We attack him! When we get our shot again, we will beat him by 4 or more TD's. 

There is one problem. You can't. You can't stop him. You can't stop the offense, you can't and you won't. This offense gives Saban fits and I don't care what any of you say about extra preparation. You can simulate it all you want and scheme all you want but you cant stop him, Johnny Football. No more of this nonsense of revenge or " we have been preparing for a year " nonsense. The truth is coming Saturday and his name is Johnny Manziel. Don't believe for one second this kid hasn't been waiting for this either, cause he has. The great ones strive in moments likes these. Johnny has been waiting and the time is coming. Come Saturday, Alabama better leave all that arrogance at home....cause the pride they have will fall in College Station if they think the Football world owes them something. 


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Posted: 9/10/2013 8:56:43 PM
I cannot help but LOL at the thought of YOU typing the first 3-4 paragraphs....


seriously though, what does "the great ones strive in moments like this" mean.
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:00:06 PM
AM can't stop anyone so def not Bama with that O-line.

Can JF outscore Bama?


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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:06:24 PM
Dude, you are high as garbage. 
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:06:48 PM
Thanks for starting another thread on this.
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:08:44 PM
Disagree, but BOL...
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:10:01 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by naesiy:

I cannot help but LOL at the thought of YOU typing the first 3-4 paragraphs....


seriously though, what does "the great ones strive in moments like this" mean.
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Look guy. You aren't here to talk football.... you are here to Troll.

So please just move along
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:10:39 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by nunong:

AM can't stop anyone so def not Bama with that O-line.

Can JF outscore Bama?


we will see
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:12:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by usmabama:

Disagree, but BOL...



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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:18:31 PM
I appreciate the time you took to write this up, but this whole thing has very little or no breakdown of the game or real analysis of this football coming up. There are more players than Johnny Manziel playing, and I see no real breakdown or reason why you're betting A&M. Besides Johnny Manziel and your disgust with Alabama's success and Alabama fans
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:19:56 PM
As my sig pic would suggest I am a huge PSU fan. Alabama was embarrassed and this coming Saturday has been marked on their calendar for 12 months. 

The line at this point I think is irrelevant because I don't think Johnny Football makes it to the end of the game. He is going out New Orleans style. 

I do agree with your assessment that the Bama fans have become spoiled. However, that hasn't changed the fact that they are a class fan base and I appreciated their showing at Beaver stadium 2 years ago. Nothing but class and man do they love football. 
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:20:09 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HammersSpreads:

I appreciate the time you took to write this up, but this whole thing has very little or no breakdown of the game or real analysis of this football coming up. There are more players than Johnny Manziel playing, and I see no real breakdown or reason why you're betting A&M. Besides Johnny Manziel and your disgust with Alabama's success and Alabama fans


the breakdown is Johhny Football.... maybe you missed that.

Johnny Football is the difference in this game. There is your breakdown
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:21:14 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HammersSpreads:

I appreciate the time you took to write this up, but this whole thing has very little or no breakdown of the game or real analysis of this football coming up. There are more players than Johnny Manziel playing, and I see no real breakdown or reason why you're betting A&M. Besides Johnny Manziel and your disgust with Alabama's success and Alabama fans

and you areā€¦.surprised by this? 
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:23:46 PM
A&M has no chance. Save your cash.

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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:25:46 PM
Aside from passing yards there was a team last year that made JFF throw 2 picks and 0 passing TDs.

He can be stopped.
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:26:06 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HammersSpreads:

I appreciate the time you took to write this up, but this whole thing has very little or no breakdown of the game or real analysis of this football coming up. There are more players than Johnny Manziel playing, and I see no real breakdown or reason why you're betting A&M. Besides Johnny Manziel and your disgust with Alabama's success and Alabama fans


Im glad you brought that up too.... You say I need to bring up the breakdown of the other player son the field? I say not so all the time...Why?

take a look at what you were so upset with this past weekend... th florida game. yeah, one guy....driskle was the difference in that game. He was so bad that it ruined his teams chances of winning. Florida beat them up and down the field.... but it doesn't always matter. The QB position is the most important position on the field and it could never ever be more evident then in that football game.... Florida lost because of Driskel.


Texas A&M has a chance to win Saturday because of the brilliance of Johnny Football...
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:27:51 PM
Well I liked it, and agree. Good stuff, boom.
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:30:05 PM
Boom, let me start by saying I appreciate what you do for this forum.  You have passion for this great game and it definitely show by the time and effort you put in.  And kudos to your great start to the year.  

With that said, I think you've gone AWOL here.  In games like this defense is huge.  plain and simple, bama's defense is loaded, a&m's defense is soft.   Preparation in games like this matters. with that said, you still have time to reverse course here and I hope you consider doing just that.  Nobody will fault you for changing course.  
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:33:58 PM
Wrong again. Essentially 5 redzone turnovers, and driskel committed only 2 of those. It was a 1 possession game, so they very well could have and should have won, even with 2 driskel turnovers. 
Driskel kept multiple drives alive by stepping into the pocket and getting LIT UP for 3rd down completions. 

So we will agree to disagree there. 

A huge problem with fans and perception is that they think a whole game is decided by 1 player or 1 play. Sorry, but it isn't. 

And I suspect you will find that out on Saturday 
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:37:30 PM

Boom, I agree with many of your opinions, but on this game I think you are off. Johnny needs to be star to feed his rep, and Bama will have the containment gameplan that will force him to be a team player to win. I heard Saban on the radio today explain how last year JF burned their secondary when they turned to look at him and the receivers wiggled free. Once they adjusted (too late), they basically held him in check. Now, a year later with 9 months of practice and game-film to prepare properly, Bama will stifle JF and the Aggie O. I think TAMU will get their points, but it will be far too little and too late to be an actual threat to win this game.

JMHO

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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:37:51 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HammersSpreads:

Wrong again. Essentially 5 redzone turnovers, and driskel committed only 2 of those. It was a 1 possession game, so they very well could have and should have won, even with 2 driskel turnovers. 
Driskel kept multiple drives alive by stepping into the pocket and getting LIT UP for 3rd down completions. 

So we will agree to disagree there. 

A huge problem with fans and perception is that they think a whole game is decided by 1 player or 1 play. Sorry, but it isn't. 

And I suspect you will find that out on Saturday 


If dont know that Driskle was the reason they lost that game....I can't help you


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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:39:11 PM
Might want to consider the following:

http://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101684897

Boom, so how many points do you think bama's scores in this game?
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:41:31 PM
and btw..... Driskel had 3 tournovers all together.

Stop trying to make this guy into a good QB.... he is horrible Defending this guy's play is embarrassing

  
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:44:10 PM
This game is hyped up the same as many games every year about this time. No one will care when the lines come out next week and the next week.  It is just a game.

I'll be much more interested in @Pitt  N. Mx.  or @Buff. Stony Brook this week than that so called GOY when another GOY is around the corner.   

Are you saying TX. AM ML?  Sounds like you are calling for a Tx. AM ml cover?  Are you? 

 Are you saying straight out that Tx. AM wins?   Say it because you just posted it. Do they win ???

Let me say something.  I have close ties to College Sta. and have seen them overwhelm small schools at home That goofy bunch of people will not affect Alabama at all. They are SEC tough and will be laser focused when this game starts. They will not be intimated but Tx. AM and the  jumping around and doing  bravado. Bravado doesn't help in the 2nd quarter when games get decided.  Alabama won't give a inch. Fact.

Thank goodness this isn't a mind game. 

Gl,  Doc
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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:44:29 PM
Too many Bama dickriders on this site.  Johnny to the bank.  
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