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Posted: 1/30/2013 12:00:49 PM

The same Sports Illustrated story that alleged Lewis obtained a banned deer-antler spray also contained a report that several Alabama football players received S.W.A.T.S. products prior to the Crimson Tide's January 2012 win over LSU in the BCS national title game.

S.W.A.T.S. representative Christopher Key showed Sports Illustrated video of him passing out "chips" to Alabama players two days before the BCS game. The "chips" are stickers that athletes place on their wrists and heart for an alleged energy boost. Crimson Tide linebacker Alex Watkins later confirmed the effectiveness of the company's chips, "negatively charged" water and deer-antler pills in a YouTube video, SI reported.

The players were given the products for free, though Key told them he'd claim they purchased the goods from him, according to the report.

Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/news/sports/Report-Alabama-players-received-banned-substances-before-2012-title-game/-/9848968/18330996/-/bms2bjz/-/index.html#ixzz2JTl8ls1N

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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:45:35 PM

How to cheat  pee test (i hear)

1) use someone elses pee ...either freeze it and microwave it, and smuggle it in

2) take a pill, or a drink

3) most of the substances are out of the system within 14 days or less!

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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:52:45 PM

u have to test te blood...thats why they thought they had it licked!!!

The company that says it provided deer-antler spray, a product that contains a banned substance, to Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis also sold its goods to members of the 2012 national championship Alabama football team, according to a co-owner of the company.

And Christopher Key, the SWATS co-owner, told ESPN's Joe Schad on Wednesday he personally witnessed about five Alabama players spray what he sold them into their mouths.

"I showed them how to use it," Key said.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 9:57:58 PM
Looks like Bama will walk away unscathed yet again.....video evidence, probably isnt enough~! ESPN will spin it in a way that Alabama will come out smelling like roses!!
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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:53:13 PM

Anti-Tumor - Cell Growth Stimulation - Athletic Performance

Velvet antler extracts are found to improve cell growth due to the nutrient rich and fast growing cartilage, which during investigation at AgResearch showed the cartilage contained many growth factors. After preliminary studies were completed, velvet extracts were shown not only to improve cell growth, but also showed anti-viral plus anti-tumor components. The Invermay scientists have shown that a natural hormone called "insulin-like growth factor or IGF-1" and a related hormone, IGF-2, promote growth in laboratory cells on culture plates. This group of scientists has recently shown antler cells have the capacity to create IGF themselves. Our growth hormone levels decrease as we age along with IGF-1 and the deterioration of muscle occurs. As a result, the use of deer velvet, with its natural source of IGF-1, can help keep the body slim and muscles toned.

Cell growth stimulation is of great importance to everyone, especially athletes. The use of deer velvet by successful Russian Olympic athletes has attracted the attention of trainers and sports doctors worldwide. Synthetic steroids are known to be potentially harmful. As such, natural and safe alternatives are essential. Deer Antler Velvet has been proven to improve muscular strength and increase endurance. New Zealand athletes, sponsored by the Game Industry Board, tested deer velvet and found it to be a safe performance enhancer without adverse side effects. Top golfers, world record rowers, a champion tri-athlete, and other outstanding athletes attribute part of their success to velvet antler extract.

Performance Enhancer

Velvet Antler Extracts increase the production of testosterone and its metabolites. In this capacity, Antler Velvet may act in a manner that is similar to the supplement androsternedione, which was brought to light by record-holding batter Mark McGuire at the end of the 1998 baseball season. Androstenedione is a steroid precursor normally produced by the adrenal glands and gonads, and is converted to testosterone in the liver. Although no long term studies on the performance-enhancement use of androstenedione are available, manufactures and consumers say that the steroid precursor helps to increase muscle mass and shorten recovery time following injury.

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Posted: 1/31/2013 12:20:51 AM

I am interested in your HGH oral spray. First, I should mention that I am a college football player at the Division 1 level, and therefore have to be EXTREMELY careful about the supplements I choose to take due to the frequent drug testing performed by the NCAA.

I have done a good bit of research about IGF-1 products through numerous medical databases, and have actually taken one of the deer antler sprays through S.W.A.T.S. and liked it. However, I have recently heard good reviews on your spray, and would appreciate you taking the time to respond to a few questions that I have.

First, do you know if your product is up to par with NCAA drug testing regulations? I have read that most products are only detectable through blood testing. Additionally, after looking through many different medical databases, all of the findings state that there is insufficient evidence to support the drugs claims, and that there are no known adverse reactions.

Are you aware of any adverse reactions of the supplement, especially in regards to anitibiotics or infections? I am especially interested in your oral spray because I have had a series of serious knee surgeries and am trying to return to the playing field as quickly as possible. However, I’m a bit worried by the fact that the claimed positive effects could actually hinder me in this situation as any infection could be increased through the use of the product or the increased immune system response could possibly attack the foreign tissues from the surgery.

I would greatly appreciate your response to this email and would love get access to any information you might have that could further answer any of these questions. As I realize that this request may take a good bit of time, I would like to point out that many of my teammates would also be very interested to learn more about your HGH oral spray, and your detailed response to my questions could earn you a significant amount of additional business in the future. I appreciate your help.

First, do you know if your product is up to par with NCAA drug testing regulations?

You and your teammates are late to the game. We've been selling our HGH oral apray to Pro and collegiate athletes at all levels for over 12 years. None of our customers have been busted in all that time. Football, baseball, and body builders lead the way. Recently, mixed martial arts, tennis, and soccer players are jumping in.

Are you aware of any adverse reactions of the supplement, especially in regards to anitibiotics or infections?

The only adverse reactions we know of come from HGH injections of improper over dosing or complications using needles. There are no adverse reactions to our homeopathic oral spray. It is very gentle on the system. It's also not a miracle worker. It's a good general tonic. It enhances everything about 10%-20%: strength, endurance, recuperation, mental clarity. So if you use it for healing it will help only about that much. If that much is what you want then spend the money. If not, don't.

Everyone responds to the product differently so some guys using it might leave the machines in the workout room trembling. Some others might not feel that much. We do have a 90 day guarantee so we encourage people to try it out for themselves. That's the only way to know for sure. And we never hassle anyone over refunds. Just keep the old bottles, send them back, and the refund is issued.

I appreciate your quick response to my previous questions.

Regarding my previous questions about NCAA drug testing for HGH, besides the fact that "none of our customers have been busted in all that time," have you submitted your oral spray for any testing by these agencies?

I also ran into a couple questions when comparing your HGH oral spray to other products on the market. For example, Nutronics Labs has an IGF-1 plus supplement claiming to have 70mg of deer antler velvet extract. On your site, no particular amount is disclosed but rather it states Human Growth Hormone 30X and Deer Antler 6X. Have you ever done a comparison between the two products?

I am favoring your HGH oral spray due to its FDA approval, but was looking for some clarification on the ingredients comparison. Thanks again.

...have you submitted your oral spray for any testing by these agencies?

The agencies, seeing "HGH" as an ingredient, would ban it without testing it.

Nutronics Labs has an IGF-1 plus supplement claiming to have 70mg of deer antler velvet extract. On your site, no particular amount is disclosed but rather it states Human Growth Hormone 30X and Deer Antler 6X. Have you ever done a comparison between the two products?

You can't compare them because there's is a supplement and ours is homeopathic. You're trying to compare a car and a plane. Do some research on "homeopathy" and you'll understand better.

A quick (and insufficient) answer is that in homeopathy you trick your body into thinking it contains certain substances in order to get a particular directed physical response. That's why when an athlete is tested they can't find anything. Meanwhile the body is reacting as if increased amounts of HGH were there. And that's also why homeopathic HGH is so safe.

Homeopathy has been around for over 200 years, curing all kinds of human maladies. You can have 70 mg of deer antler in you and it might not get the body to do anything. Or you can have much less in you and the body responds like it has much more. The former targets ingestion while the latter targets physical results.

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Posted: 1/31/2013 12:23:05 AM

They harvest the so-called velvet antler (a soft coating that covers deer antlers) in New Zealand, freeze-dry it and then grind it into a powder. It then gets shipped to the United States, where it gets put into either capsules or liquid extracts that can become a simple mouth spray. You can buy it for $68 a bottle.

For the elite athlete, experts say it’s essentially a human growth hormone, one of the substances organized sports is trying to keep out. The difference here is deer antlers are natural, not synthetic, and properly discovering it in a test falls somewhere between extremely challenging to virtually impossible.

Apparently the active ingredient — IGF-1 — is one of the main proteins in human growth hormone. The author of the piece — Dan Wetzel — talks about its use being widespread in the NFL and gets quotes from the usual hand-wringing suspects about just how awful this is.

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Posted: 1/31/2013 12:24:38 AM

They harvest the so-called velvet antler (a soft coating that covers deer antlers) in New Zealand, freeze-dry it and then grind it into a powder. It then gets shipped to the United States, where it gets put into either capsules or liquid extracts that can become a simple mouth spray. You can buy it for $68 a bottle.

For the elite athlete, experts say it’s essentially a human growth hormone, one of the substances organized sports is trying to keep out. The difference here is deer antlers are natural, not synthetic, and properly discovering it in a test falls somewhere between extremely challenging to virtually impossible.

Apparently the active ingredient — IGF-1 — is one of the main proteins in human growth hormone. The author of the piece — Dan Wetzel — talks about its use being widespread in the NFL and gets quotes from the usual hand-wringing suspects about just how awful this is.

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Posted: 1/31/2013 12:25:02 AM
The growth hormone associated with velvet deer antler, Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1), is banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency and all major sports leagues. But the national lab that tests supplements for the MLB and the NFL, NSF International, does not have a test for it.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 12:46:57 AM
Didn't read all of your posts in this thread Capper, but I will add a comment of my own.

SWATS is not a product.  It the name of a company.  The acronym stands for Sports With Alternatives to Steroids.  One of the owners of the company is a personal friend of mine - Christopher Key.  He is the person named in all of the articles that came out in the last few days.

SWATS sells one product that contains a banned substance.  The product is deer antler velvet, and the banned substance it contains is IGF-1.  IGF-1 is a perfectly legal substance that is sold by virtually all supplement stores and all supplement websites.  Anyone can go online and buy it.  Up until about a year ago, IGF-1 was also legal to use in all sports.  It has subsequently been banned by the NCAA, MLB & the NFL.  Those are the leagues I know of.  There could be others.

Like creatine, IGF-1 is a substance that the human body produces naturally, and like creatine, IGF-1 should not be banned by any sports organization IMO.  Banning IGF-1 is merely an overreaction to the bad press professional sports organizations have received in the wake of the steroids scandals.  IGF-1 is not a steroid.

All of the deer antler velvet products I've seen on the market are sold as a sub-lingual spray.  Most of the experts, however, seem to be of the opinion that the only way to derive any benefit from IGF-1 is to inject it directly into the blood stream.  All seem to agree that spraying IGF-1 under the tongue is of no benefit whatsoever.  I have no clue if that's true or not.

Auburn used Christopher Key's (SWATS) products the year they won the national championship.  Keep in mind that all of the SWATS products were legal in 2010, so there are no accusations that Auburn cheated, nor should there be.  See the following:

Auburn Safety Zac Etheridge - S.W.A.T.S. Chips Give Us Energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR_Fwvs-qlQ

SWATS also sells hologram patches (or chips) that are also suppose to benefit the body in various ways.  These patches contain no banned substances, and are still perfectly legal to this day.  The patches supposedly work off of some sort of electrical frequency.  Again, I have no clue if these chips are effective or not.

When Auburn was using the SWATS products in 2010, Key and his partner Mitch Ross (whom I don't know personally) also tried to interest the Alabama athletic department in their products.  Alabama rejected the products, and had their attorneys issue SWATS with a cease and desist order.  Neither Key nor Ross, nor any other representative of SWATS was permitted on campus grounds in the future.  Alabama has subsequently issued SWATS with several more cease and desist orders since the initial one.

I will say that while I cannot in anyway vouch for any of the products SWATS sells, I support their right to freely market them in the United States of America.  I spoke with Key personally today and asked him specifically about the articles, but he did not elaborate on them further.

In conclusion I will say that there is really nothing new about SWATS or IGF-1.  The only new development here is that IGF-1 has now been banned by most, if not all professional sports organizations, and in my opinion, wrongly so.  I will also say that the University of Alabama has been way out front on SWATS and IGF-1, and has never at anytime endorsed either the company or their products, even though many other schools were using SWATS' products at the time.  There certainly exists no wide spread cheating scandal at Alabama, and the SEC and NCAA have been kept well-informed on the matter by the University the entire timeThis is essentially a non-story that is being blown up right before national signing day most likely in an effort to adversely effect Alabama's recruiting class, and to divert negative attention away from their favorite disgraced poster boy - Manti Te'o.


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Posted: 1/31/2013 12:48:49 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Capper007:

The growth hormone associated with velvet deer antler, Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1), is banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency and all major sports leagues. But the national lab that tests supplements for the MLB and the NFL, NSF International, does not have a test for it.


They don't have a test for it because it is a substance that is produced naturally by the body.


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Posted: 1/31/2013 6:55:53 AM

The reason i dont post "good ol Capper007 threads anymore, is because SEC fans troll me......the SEC cheats IN EVERY WAY!! And Emmert wont touch em!!

They wont even look into this ...much less get in trouble for it!!

Jimmy....you are THE ONLY SEC fan i Ilke!!!!!!

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Posted: 1/31/2013 6:57:23 AM
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They don't have a test for it because it is a substance that is produced naturally by the body.


Yea and its blood .. know!!! cant prove it!!! SEC is the Wild west!!!

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