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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:16:51 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

In Response to Train.

A) Maybe would depend on stats on how is D is doing.

B) He would be killing it at USC instead so people would probably know his name

C) Kids a great Football player you're just going to have to get over your ND hate and deal with it.

Well put on all. That he would not be known is about the dumbest thing I have seen posted in years

Come on Train!

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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:22:45 PM
It's O.K. Manti, you swept all the other major awards, you are going to be a National Champion and a 10+ year NFL pro.  You are going to get multiple endorsement deals and be one of the cover boys of the NFL for years to come because you take care of business on the field and you're squeaky clean off the field.  And it's all genuine.  It has been since the day 1. 

Johnny Football?  Flash in the pan.  It was fun while it lasted.  He won't take anyone by surprise the next three seasons.  Nowhere to go but down for the kid.  No more awards, no championships, no pro career, no endorsement deals.  He'll have a Hesiman Trophy that will just collect dust in his parents' house and won't pay the bills for him when he gets out of college.

Collin Klein?  Possible pro career carrying a clip board and then he's going to lead some kind of Branch-Davidian cult.

When it's all said and done, Manti be the biggest winner of them all.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:42:56 PM

^ High probability of occuring.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:50:46 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

^ High probability of occuring.



High?  It WILL happen.  Goddell and the league are DYING for men like Manti.  No DUI's, no domestic violence,  no gun violence, no speeding tickets, no kids out of wedlock, no dirty hits, no hollywood b.s., no greed, no holdouts, no stupid entourage to deal with AND he does it on the field too. 
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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:57:03 PM
  It's funny that many on here think they KNOW what will happen in the future when in fact no one really knows anything.
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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:58:33 PM
All I know is that I seen only one ND game this year and it was against USC. Manti stuffing that goal line @the ending of the game was impressive, coming off a block and smashing that RB was awesome! If he wins the heisman then he'll probably go first round but that's a BIG IF! He a solid and big LB but I think that position in the NFL the players is way to JUICED UP. Frickn veins is popping out! YIKES!!!
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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:58:41 PM

LarryWayne10, Gucci    

Jarvis Jones is every bit as good as Manti Te'o. 

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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:11:15 PM
Manti was the centerpiece of bringing ND back to national football prominence.  You don't think the vast network of ND alumni are going to take care of him for the rest of his life? 

Enjoy your Heisman and cool nickname Manziel.  See you in four years when you're doing.....absolutely nothing.  Everyone will forget about this season because, in this day and age, popularity such as yours has the shelf life of about two weeks.
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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:11:54 PM
Some people are just so short-sighted. 
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Posted: 12/8/2012 11:08:33 PM
kimionsd808, no reason to hate on Manziel..What did the guy do to you? It's funny you call other people short sighted..Look in the mirror!
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Posted: 12/8/2012 11:24:07 PM
JakeLake720, I don't know Manziel and he's done nothing to me.  I've simply opined about all three Heisman candidates, specifically Manti and Manziel.  Isn't that what this thread about?  My opinion is based on the present state of the NFL landscape and the past histories of football players.  Nothing about it is short-sighted.  I don't think you know what that means.  I also don't think you know the definition of "hate".  

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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:55:59 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by NevadaGamer:

A. If he was on ANOTHER 12-0 team playing for the NC he would be on the Heisman ticket. Remember that is why he is on it because he plays for a 12-0 team.

B. If he was on ANOTHER 12-0 Team they would know his name.

C. Tell Kiper and McShay who have him as the 2nd and 4th best OVERALL for the draft GEEEEEEEZ

He is on the ticket because he is a great player and he is on a 12-0 team that is the number one defense in the country. Seriously do you know anything about college football and how it works. You are so clueless it's beyond comprehesion. Its why I never go into your threads they are all attention grabbing threads that have nothing to do with gambling. Have you posted any picks I know you like Bama, OU and Kstate. I have you down for those right.



And yet here you are. Interesting.....


Not real sure what all you guys dont get. IF, and that the big thing, ND isnt 12-0 he doesnt have a chance. Now, they werent 12-0 because of him. Scheduling helped out tremendously (yes they had a couple nice wins), luck (Stanford can tell you about that) and no conference championship game.

The main argument I keep seeing is hes on a 12-0 team. That means he had 21 other guys helping him tremendously.......

What I'm saying is that if he played for Vanderbilt or UCF he wouldnt be a household name......Thats all. Plain and simple.



I know nothing about college football? Nice try kid
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:56:40 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

Nevada,

Train is a great capper.

 











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Posted: 12/9/2012 1:09:25 AM
 Jadeveon Clowney deserved as much consideration as Teo..Teo will be a solid NFL player, but the Heisman does not go to sole defensive players and probably never will again, that's just how it is..
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Posted: 12/9/2012 2:03:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Bucks10:

He isn't great... Misses a lot of tackles and is not a great athlete

Bust

he is #5 on the defense. in case you didn't know which player Manti Te'o is
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:06:25 PM
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And yet here you are. Interesting.....


Not real sure what all you guys dont get. IF, and that the big thing, ND isnt 12-0 he doesnt have a chance. Now, they werent 12-0 because of him. Scheduling helped out tremendously (yes they had a couple nice wins), luck (Stanford can tell you about that) and no conference championship game.

The main argument I keep seeing is hes on a 12-0 team. That means he had 21 other guys helping him tremendously.......

What I'm saying is that if he played for Vanderbilt or UCF he wouldnt be a household name......Thats all. Plain and simple.



I know nothing about college football? Nice try kid

You don't know anything about college football as far as it comes to picking games Mr. 500. Also with the exception of RG3 who put up video game numbers how many Heisman winners or people that get invited comes from LOSING TEAMS.  RG3 didn't have a defense he had to win the game by himself.  Give me ONE NAME of a winner or someone invited for the Heisman that wasn't from not only a winning team but a team that is basically in the NC hunt??? Cat got your tongue. Your arguement is so ridiculous its comical. If SC was undefeated and he was coming off that monster game against weak behind Clemson he would have been in the Heisman chase. PERIOD. CASE CLOSED. You know it and everyone else knows it.  So keep making useless threads I am still waiting on you to actually pick a college football game. You like to fade me so I have you down for Bama, OU and of course your darling team Kstate who is going to get HOUSED. GL on your picks

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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:15:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAIN69:



And yet here you are. Interesting.....


Not real sure what all you guys dont get. IF, and that the big thing, ND isnt 12-0 he doesnt have a chance. Now, they werent 12-0 because of him. Scheduling helped out tremendously (yes they had a couple nice wins), luck (Stanford can tell you about that) and no conference championship game.

The main argument I keep seeing is hes on a 12-0 team. That means he had 21 other guys helping him tremendously.......

What I'm saying is that if he played for Vanderbilt or UCF he wouldnt be a household name......Thats all. Plain and simple.



I know nothing about college football? Nice try kid

These comments take the cake though. They were not 12-0 because of him. Of course they were not. This isn't tennis no 1 person wins a football game.  Scheduling???? They beat OU AT HOME, beat Stanford PERIOD and USC AT HOME. Their Strength of Schedule was better than Alabamas so give me a break. As far a conference championship Bama needed that to get into the NC game they had only played 2 good teams before that and Georgia lit them up like Christmas tree. Bama never played in the conference championship last year. Also you do know that ND is an independant. Just checking. Seriously Ipromise you that this will be the last thread I ever go into of yours because debating you is like debating Bozo. You think your opinions are facts while I debate with ACTUAL FACTS. I don't like ND I like to win. Your problem is you are so biased towards various teams it clouts your judgement just like BOOB. You were on Clemson over SC also and saw Clowney clown that team. Check you later can't wait for those other 30 picks. What's your record now?????

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Careful guys.
Advertisers said no more titties. No more bad words. Next is no more football talk or debating.

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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:43:07 PM
Train69,
You my friend are an idiot! Do you even watch football or have you watched football tge past four years? Do you follow recruiting? Teowas 12 overall prospect on rivals and 2 in his position! I know i didnt call out his prospect ratings but some other moron did! Teo is phenomenal sideline to sideline! Bottom line!you idiots have no idea how good notre dame defense is do you! You dont realize how mnay 300 pou ders that can move that they rotate in!

Teo is legit and darn sec or pac 12 fans that cant see it! Teo would be great at any school any school you ignorant dumbasses! This site is full of dumb people!

Teo deserved to be in running and apparently 321 people thought so! Stop with the whos person is bigger and appreciate what you got bc teo is great! Watch his games people! He single handidly beat my wolverines!
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Teo was a 5 star recruit and HUGE recruit!
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:50:27 PM
No surprise he is this good!
Jarvis was a huge recruit like teo! Jarvis is not better! Get over it sec posers! Jarvis is knowwhere near the kid teo is! Jarvis is good da! Teo is great! Notre dame had much more difficult schedule!
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Posted: 12/9/2012 4:14:23 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

^ High probability of occuring.



nice call on manti winning


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Posted: 12/9/2012 8:57:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by NevadaGamer:

You don't know anything about college football as far as it comes to picking games Mr. 500. Also with the exception of RG3 who put up video game numbers how many Heisman winners or people that get invited comes from LOSING TEAMS.  RG3 didn't have a defense he had to win the game by himself.  Give me ONE NAME of a winner or someone invited for the Heisman that wasn't from not only a winning team but a team that is basically in the NC hunt??? Cat got your tongue. Your arguement is so ridiculous its comical. If SC was undefeated and he was coming off that monster game against weak behind Clemson he would have been in the Heisman chase. PERIOD. CASE CLOSED. You know it and everyone else knows it.  So keep making useless threads I am still waiting on you to actually pick a college football game. You like to fade me so I have you down for Bama, OU and of course your darling team Kstate who is going to get HOUSED. GL on your picks



Yep, RG3 won games. Manziel won games. Manti played his position very well and helped a lot. Doesnt equal heisman kid.


Keep watching and learning son. You already contradicted yourself once in this thread and have made various ignorant comments. By arguing against me you simply validate my point. Their are much better players at his position alone, but because those "teams" arent 12-0 they didnt get a second look. The ND PR machine has been crankin this kids name out since the summer.....

Manziel LOST 2 games and still won...... doesnt that tell you something?


Learn a little and watch some more football and then come chat when you have knowledge, not what you regurgitate from Linda Cohn on espn.......



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Posted: 12/9/2012 8:58:48 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mtp104:

Train69,
You my friend are an idiot! Do you even watch football or have you watched football tge past four years? Do you follow recruiting? Teowas 12 overall prospect on rivals and 2 in his position! I know i didnt call out his prospect ratings but some other moron did! Teo is phenomenal sideline to sideline! Bottom line!you idiots have no idea how good notre dame defense is do you! You dont realize how mnay 300 pou ders that can move that they rotate in!

Teo is legit and darn sec or pac 12 fans that cant see it! Teo would be great at any school any school you ignorant dumbasses! This site is full of dumb people!

Teo deserved to be in running and apparently 321 people thought so! Stop with the whos person is bigger and appreciate what you got bc teo is great! Watch his games people! He single handidly beat my wolverines!


Not sure what you are talking about. I said he was good. I also said he wasnt Heisman Trophy good. Both are now FACTS.

Not sure why people have lost all common sense.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 12:33:06 AM

Train, I respect you as a capper but you act like you forgot about last year too.  Teo would have been a #1 draft pick if he came out then.  So, unlike Barkley, he came back for Sr season and produced.  Of course he should be hyped.  Top 5 college player this year.  Name me a LB that will be drafted before him.

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