HEISMAN!!!!!

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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:11:53 PM
How many of you think Manti Te'o should win the HEISMAN???
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:23:51 PM
very nice kid,

good football, not great,

not even amongst the top 10 defensive players in football,

MANZIEL IS THE MOST EXCITING PLAYER IN THE COUNTRY
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:24:58 PM

Manti pulls off the impossible.

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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:25:28 PM
Not in my top 3.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:42:45 PM
Manti wins the heisman. Klein blew it against baylor. Teo is the heart and soul if that defense and is a tremendous leader and athlete.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:57:21 PM
any of you who think Manziel is not going to win it, are not paying attention  
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Posted: 12/5/2012 12:12:30 AM
Gridironguy, do you think Manziel is a lock?
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Posted: 12/5/2012 12:17:07 AM

johnny  football  !!!!!!

except  if  heisman  got  another  '''notre dame  rule  ''''lol,

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Posted: 12/5/2012 12:26:00 AM

[Quote: Originally Posted by gridironguy] any of you who think Manziel is not going to win it, are not paying attention  

i remember  2  greats  predictions this  summer  bro,lsu  and  mich st !!!!!!  agree,  johnny  all  the  way , he turn  20  this week  but  not  100  % sure,go  johnny gogogo  johnny  be  good  !!!!!

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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:05:28 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by themerz72:

Gridironguy, do you think Manziel is a lock?

not a lock.  i don't feel as strong about his chances as i do most years when i predict the winner (i have not been wrong in a very long time), but Manzeil is without question the favorite.

he had his heisman moment(s) beating Bama.

teo never had a real heisman moment, did not score enough TDs,

collin klein's team garbage the bed.

it's crazy that it comes down to one thing, but what Manziel did AT BAMA has stuck in everyone's minds, the voters are no different, they see what we see,

i will be QUITE surprised if Johnny does not win
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:06:21 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by yomh1964:

Originally Posted by gridironguy] any of you who think Manziel is not going to win it, are not paying attention  

i remember  2  greats  predictions this  summer  bro,lsu  and  mich st !!!!!!  agree,  johnny  all  the  way , he turn  20  this week  but  not  100  % sure,go  johnny gogogo  johnny  be  good  !!!!!


glad you were paying attention to my UNDER 10.5 for LSU wins and UNDER 8.5 for Mich State wins

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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:07:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

Manti pulls off the impossible.


you're a ND lover,

i am a COLLEGE FOOTBALL TOP TO BOTTOM lover,

my opinion is worth tons more than yours, though i do like you Blood.

Teo no go
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:07:47 AM
Manziel is hands down the best player in CFB. If he doesn't win then it's probably because the freshman card is used against him. I do expect him to win though
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:13:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Laroja:

Manziel is hands down the best player in CFB. If he doesn't win then it's probably because the freshman card is used against him. I do expect him to win though

there was a time when only jrs and srs would win, then tebow the soph in 07 won, followed by sophs in 08 and 09 in sam bradford and mark ingram.

now its time for a frosh to win, the sophs paved the way and broke the door down
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Posted: 12/5/2012 3:05:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:


you're a ND lover,

i am a COLLEGE FOOTBALL TOP TO BOTTOM lover,

my opinion is worth tons more than yours, though i do like you Blood.
 
Teo no go

Actually I love CFB top to bottom, but ND is no doubt my team. In all honesty I think Manziel is going to win, but everything about this season for ND has been utterly improbable. What's one Heisman and one more win in Dolphins Stadium?  Nobody thought ND would be in this spot myself included. Nobody thought Manti Teo would be one of three selected for the Heisman. Regardless if it's Manziel or Teo winning CFB history is about to be made one way or the other and that's always amazing to see. If Manziel wins I hope he can handle it and not let it go to his head. Afterall, he is a kid and has what 2 or 3 seasons of CFB ahead of him.

 

 

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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:50:41 PM
It's been my pet peve every year when they select the Heisman winner.  Often they fall flat in there respective bowl games.

Why can't they wait until AFTER the bowls to pick the winner?  They don't pick the MVP of the super bowl until AFTER the game.  So why pick the most prestigious football player in the world before his biggest game. 

I know I know......the winner is picked for his over the season performances.......BUT...how many times do you say after the winners bowl game, "geez, expecting a better performance from the best player in college football."

Just want these guys to FIGHT until the end for that trophy that follows them throughout there life.  Just my opinion.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:11:39 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

Actually I love CFB top to bottom, but ND is no doubt my team. In all honesty I think Manziel is going to win, but everything about this season for ND has been utterly improbable. What's one Heisman and one more win in Dolphins Stadium?  Nobody thought ND would be in this spot myself included. Nobody thought Manti Teo would be one of three selected for the Heisman. Regardless if it's Manziel or Teo winning CFB history is about to be made one way or the other and that's always amazing to see. If Manziel wins I hope he can handle it and not let it go to his head. Afterall, he is a kid and has what 2 or 3 seasons of CFB ahead of him.

 

 


Teo will lose the Heisman to Johnny M on Sat night,

and ND will lose to Bama on the evening of Mon, Jan 7,

sorry dude but you are going to end the season with 2 big disappointments, especially on Jan 7

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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:12:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Cooler999:

It's been my pet peve every year when they select the Heisman winner.  Often they fall flat in there respective bowl games.

Why can't they wait until AFTER the bowls to pick the winner?  They don't pick the MVP of the super bowl until AFTER the game.  So why pick the most prestigious football player in the world before his biggest game. 

I know I know......the winner is picked for his over the season performances.......BUT...how many times do you say after the winners bowl game, "geez, expecting a better performance from the best player in college football."

Just want these guys to FIGHT until the end for that trophy that follows them throughout there life.  Just my opinion.

most of the time the heisman winner falls flat is because:

1) he has great stats and is a "system player"

2) the opponent in the bowl is extremely fired up to play him

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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:15:49 PM
I THINK....

THEY SHOULD PICK WINNER AFTER THE SEASON IS OVER 
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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:48:00 PM
If Manziel wasn't a freshman there wouldn't even be a thread to on this site to discuss and post an opinion in. He's heads & tails above the rest this year. Strange year with not as many individually dominate performances as usual.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 12:17:58 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:


Teo will lose the Heisman to Johnny M on Sat night,

and ND will lose to Bama on the evening of Mon, Jan 7,

sorry dude but you are going to end the season with 2 big disappointments, especially on Jan 7

I like your confidence but you were also confident ND had no shot in Norman. Never say never Grid. If was all about what it says on paper there would be no reason to play the games.

Best of Luck

 

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Posted: 12/6/2012 12:28:31 AM

[Quote: Originally Posted by Cooler999] It's been my pet peve every year when they select the Heisman winner.  Often they fall flat in there respective bowl games.

Why can't they wait until AFTER the bowls to pick the winner?  They don't pick the MVP of the super bowl until AFTER the game.  So why pick the most prestigious football player in the world before his biggest game. 

I know I know......the winner is picked for his over the season performances.......BUT...how many times do you say after the winners bowl game, "geez, expecting a better performance from the best player in college football."

Just want these guys to FIGHT until the end for that trophy that follows them throughout there life.  Just my opinion.

100 % 

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Posted: 12/6/2012 3:32:47 AM
What ever happened to Geno Smith? After the 3rd or 4th week he was a shoe-in.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 1:33:28 PM

At the rate Te'o is collecting awards I willl not be suprised if he magically wins the Heisman at this point as well.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 2:13:27 PM

I think Manziel wins it but Te'o deserves it more. Te'o played in a system that was not expected to win, but this young man clearly played the biggest role, on any team in CFB and he took a mediocre team and theyre defense to the next level...and now they are in the NC when they were more then counted out.  

Manziels picking apart of Alabama was incredible, but over his whole schedule there were games where he did not shine, although for the most part he looked great. I do not wanna see that Alabama performance take too much bias in the decision process.  But, I think his freshman status says alot.... to come into the SEC, agains these defenses, as a freshman, and do this... it is quite incredible, and this is why he probably wins.

Also, totally agree with needing to wait till the end of the season. I mean, what if Te'o and the ND D come up with a bunch of picks, or FF's and return a few to the endzone? Possibly beat Bama in an upset? I know its regular season basis, but in that scenario, you would have to lock in Te'o as the winner if he could replicate what hes been doing all year against Bama in the big game.

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