LOAD up on ND +11.5 v Bama at 5dimes

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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:04:27 PM
Ok grid, valid point. I think that ND may have success running the ball. But on the flip side ND hasn't even come close to facing an offensive line like bama's. I mean really, they have the best rushing oline in the nation. I just think ND's lack of consistency on offense is what kills them in the end. Alabama has a very balanced offense and a very good d. ND has only one. And i think that turns out to be a dd margin of victory for bama
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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:08:47 PM
Wheaty, with the injury problems at WR right now, i don't think BAMA will be able to stretch the field against GA, and i am starting to like GA +7.5 by the minute!!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:09:06 PM
BAMA might not even be playing on Jan 7th!!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:09:55 PM

you are putting the cart before the horse

But if Bama does have the opportunity to play the Domers... 11.5 isn't going to be enough 

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Posted: 11/26/2012 7:24:05 PM
Ok kenny bell is out, but you're still dodging the issue. Bama will run the ball at will unless ND stacks the box. And what you're saying is that bama can't take advantage of that cuz of the lack of depth at receiver?? If that's the case wouldn't the under be smarter to pound than ND?? Unless you're saying ND has a good shot to win because of the lack of that depth?? And if that's true have you taken into consideration the 5 weeks before the NCG (assuming bama gets there of course) and the fact that they are un-redshirting another true frosh receiver?? Just questions i have grid, just questions...
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Posted: 11/26/2012 10:09:16 PM
Bama and Ryno = Haters. Give ND some respect and go lay with Saban some more
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Posted: 11/26/2012 10:25:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by forkball:

TALENT IS ABOUT EVEN.  IN MY VIEW THIS GAME COMES DOWN TO COACHING AND EXECUTION.  EDGE BAMA.

Almost spot on brother, Bama better on offense and defense for that matter, but close on defense.  ND will find it tough going on offense I think.  All in all, ND should cover 11 points, but Bama wins.  But stranger things have happened?

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Posted: 11/26/2012 10:45:55 PM
If Notre Dame played in the SEC they would have 3, possibly 4 losses this year.  They wouldn't beat Georgia, Florida, Texas A&M, LSU or South Carolina.  For that matter I think they would struggle with the likes of Missouri, Vandy, or Miss. State!  

Give them credit???  Please!  Notre Dame's schedule looks good on paper but in actuality it was popcorn fart weak.  Roll Tide!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 11:02:17 PM
The BCS title game is taking it to a level that Notre Dame has
not been to in many years. Bama was there last year and made
LSU look like a MAC school.Notre Dame will gain much from the
experience, but I do not think they will come within 2 TDs.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 11:37:22 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:

Saban is a superior coach to Richt in PRE-game prep and on gameday,

no question in my mind

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Posted: 11/26/2012 11:46:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tideman:

you are putting the cart before the horse

But if Bama does have the opportunity to play the Domers... 11.5 isn't going to be enough 



Exactly what Tideman said.  Alabama's game against Georgia will be a very tough game for Alabama indeed.  If Alabama survives the Bulldogs, my advice will be exactly what it was against Michigan in week 1 - play Alabama huge at anything under 2 touchdowns.  Alabama vs. Notre Dame has 27-6 written all over it.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:12:34 AM
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I think you guys may be a little ahead of yourselfs here. Bama may struggle a bit against ND's defense but how is ND gonna move the ball vs bama?? I've watched a lot of both teams this year, especially ND and their offense is going to struggle quite a bit imo. I think their defense is superb, no doubt. But nobody here is addressing the issue of ND offense vs bama defense.

ND passing game is much better than people think. They have deep threat weapons, a great slot guy, and who the hell is going to cover Eifert? No one has been able to cover him 1 on 1 yet this year.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:18:31 AM
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Honest question, have you watched even 1 Notre Dame game this season? To say Everett Golson can "sling the rock" is the furthest thing from the truth. In fact, whenever Notre Dame falls behind or is forced to run a 2 minute drill type offense, Tommy Rees will usually come on the field. Do you think it's a mystery why? Golson is an athletic QB that can run the option well. Throwing the ball is certainly not his strength, especially down field.

I have watched every ND game this year. Referring back to things that happened in the first quarter of the season is kind of pointless at the end of the year.I ddin't see Reese come in against Oklahoma and Golson was amazing in the 4th and OT vs Pitt he also put up 300 yards and 3 tds thru the air in a half vs wake. The kid is very talented not perfect but very talented.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:24:54 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BamaTaxMan:

Talking about CUP CAKES!? Notre Dames whole schedule is full of them!!! 

WF?? Vandy killed them!!
Michigan?? BAMA throttled them!! Ask Denard about us!!
USC?? What a waste of talent
Purdue LOL
Navy. Lol
BC LOL
PITT.. Have Mercy
BYU....help me Lord
Mich St. ...Enough Said

If dont think Bama can beat these teams then line then up!! That's garbage!! Pansy arse schedule!!
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:27:52 AM

Oops meant to quote the above anyway all those cupcakes as you said are bowl eligible minus WF and BC. Don't think Bama can make that claim about their powerhouse schedule. Also ND beat MSU by more points than all of their losses combined. MSU not a bad team things just didn't go their way this year. Bama played 2 great teams and 1 good one this year. LSU, A+M, and Michigan.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:29:49 AM
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Ok kenny bell is out, but you're still dodging the issue. Bama will run the ball at will unless ND stacks the box. And what you're saying is that bama can't take advantage of that cuz of the lack of depth at receiver?? If that's the case wouldn't the under be smarter to pound than ND?? Unless you're saying ND has a good shot to win because of the lack of that depth?? And if that's true have you taken into consideration the 5 weeks before the NCG (assuming bama gets there of course) and the fact that they are un-redshirting another true frosh receiver?? Just questions i have grid, just questions...

Why do assume Bama will run at will?

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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:32:47 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SweetDickWormy:

If Notre Dame played in the SEC they would have 3, possibly 4 losses this year.  They wouldn't beat Georgia, Florida, Texas A&M, LSU or South Carolina.  For that matter I think they would struggle with the likes of Missouri, Vandy, or Miss. State!  

Give them credit???  Please!  Notre Dame's schedule looks good on paper but in actuality it was popcorn fart weak.  Roll Tide!

And what team in the SEC played all the above mentioned teams?

Bama played LSU and A+M 1-1 UGA played Florida and SC 1-1. So how does ND end up with 4 losses with a SEC schedule that isn't even possible? Playing the best teams in the East and West?

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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:34:32 AM
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Correct.  Georgia can beat Alabama because they have a balanced offense, and as I posted months ago, that's what it'll take to beat Alabama.  Aaron Murray is a very good and very experienced QB who is supported by a running game the defenses must respect.  Yes Georgia has a good defense, but it is their balanced offensive attack that could give Alabama fits.

Yet ND's offense is unbalanced. Average bout 200 on the ground and 200 thru the air. Why is this fact going over everyones head?

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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:38:15 AM
Bama/Notre Dame would be a replay of last year's national title game, maybe worse. 
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:41:43 AM
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Ok kenny bell is out, but you're still dodging the issue. Bama will run the ball at will unless ND stacks the box. And what you're saying is that bama can't take advantage of that cuz of the lack of depth at receiver?? If that's the case wouldn't the under be smarter to pound than ND?? Unless you're saying ND has a good shot to win because of the lack of that depth?? And if that's true have you taken into consideration the 5 weeks before the NCG (assuming bama gets there of course) and the fact that they are un-redshirting another true frosh receiver?? Just questions i have grid, just questions...

If Bama can move the ball that's great. ND D tries not to give up big plays and force teams to sustain drives.  Once the field gets shorter in the RZ tactics change and teams struggle to score TDs. So ND will stay cover 2 or cover 1 or variants of most of the game if Diaco feels that Bama is dangerous deep. If not ND will make adjustments. The D has done a really great job of adusting to teams all season. If ND plays Bama I will be suprised if the Bama O scores more than 20 pts.

 

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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:47:20 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

If Bama can move the ball that's great. ND D tries not to give up big plays and force teams to sustain drives.  Once the field gets shorter in the RZ tactics change and teams struggle to score TDs. So ND will stay cover 2 or cover 1 or variants of most of the game if Diaco feels that Bama is dangerous deep. If not ND will make adjustments. The D has done a really great job of adusting to teams all season. If ND plays Bama I will be suprised if the Bama O scores more than 20 pts.

 


Are you kidding me? You would be surprised if Bama scores 20? I think there's a better chance of Bama scoring more than 20 than ND scoring more than 6.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:08:04 AM

Well if Bama gets beyond UGA this weekend we shall see Jan 7.

I have heard this about ND all year and all year ND has prevailed.

No way they could MSU thrashed em.

Robinson was an ND killer forced 6 turnovers gave up 0 tds.

Miami too much speed ND too slow thrashed em.

Oklahoma too fast too athletic. Dominated them in their house.

Stanford too smash mouth too physical too good. Managed to beat them too.

They have beaten the best and upper echelon teams in every AQ conference other than the SEC and BE.

They are by the numbers the best RZ and goal to go D in the country.

They are by the numbers the best road team/neutral site team in the country.

How many games do they have to win before you realize that this team can compete with any team in CFB? Bama or UGA may very well beat ND, but it won't be easy.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:14:10 AM
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Are you kidding me? You would be surprised if Bama scores 20? I think there's a better chance of Bama scoring more than 20 than ND scoring more than 6.

No joke. Most points Nd has given up was to Pitt in a letdown game and it take them 3 overtimes to get to 26. 

Oklahoma 13

Stanford 13

USC 13

Spotting a trend?

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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:59:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

Yet ND's offense is unbalanced. Average bout 200 on the ground and 200 thru the air. Why is this fact going over everyones head?



As of right now we have no idea if Alabama will be in the national championship game yet or not, but if they do make it I get that you're going to bet on Notre Dame, and I have no desire whatsoever to change talk you out of it.  But be forewarned, however, that not only is your Notre Dame bet going to lose, it is going to lose huge.

I know you don't want to hear it, and you won't believe me even if I tell you, but this game is a huge talent mismatch in favor of Alabama.  The biggest mismatch is not even in the starting lineups.  The biggest mismatch is where games are frequently won and lost - depth.  Alabama also has a huge advantage in skill position players.

Notre Dame's offense has been atrocious all season, and they certainly aren't going to get well in the championship game playing against the #1 defense in the nation.  There is not a single player on Notre Dame's offense that poses even the slightest threat to Alabama's defense except for the possibility of their TE Tyler Eifert.  Notre Dame has no big play threats, and they have virtually no chance of driving the length of the field and scoring a touchdown.  I would rate Notre Dame's chances of scoring a touchdown in this game at under 20%.

As I said above, it doesn't bother me one bit that if this game comes to fruition that you will put your money on Notre Dame, but you can't say you weren't duly warned of the consequences of doing so.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:04:25 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

No joke. Most points Nd has given up was to Pitt in a letdown game and it take them 3 overtimes to get to 26. 

Oklahoma 13

Stanford 13

USC 13

Spotting a trend?



Oklahoma 13 (atrocious offensive line)

Stanford 13 (atrocious 1-dimensional offensive)

USC 13 (atrocious offensive line)

Spotting a trend?


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