LOAD up on ND +11.5 v Bama at 5dimes

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Posted: 11/26/2012 1:20:28 PM

Does Alabama's "most difficult schedule" really have to include 3 southern freebies like Florida ATLANTIC, WESTERN Carolina and WESTERN Kentucky? I don't think other than LSU and A&M anyone in the SEC gives them a fight. Georgia will lay down right quick like an obedient dog.

I think any savvy gambler could see Georgia would never have the lead in either the Bama OR  (if by chance Bama gives them the game) ND game. Georgi would be embarrassed just like they were vs Boise State. I'd put all I had on ND ml right away after Georgia won--hell yeah.

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Posted: 11/26/2012 1:25:49 PM
As much as I respect what the Irish have done and what they bring to the table the reality is Alabama is a terrible matchup for them. You can't pound the ball and beat Bama. We've seen with A&M and the LSU game that a competent QB and good pass attack can beat them.

Notre Dame with their style will simply wear down over the course of the game even with the defense they possess. Everett Golson will not beat Bama nor will he do enough to cover.

Georgia on the other hand does have what it takes (except for the coach) to beat Alabama.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:11:00 PM

Golson can sling the rock. 

ND plays conservative on O if it can, but will open things up if they have to.

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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:14:56 PM
ND getting anything under 2 TDs against Bama is a sucker bet...
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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:24:01 PM
ND backers could get even better value if Bama should beat Georgia in large margin this weekend. 
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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:26:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by andarmac99:

As much as I respect what the Irish have done and what they bring to the table the reality is Alabama is a terrible matchup for them. You can't pound the ball and beat Bama. We've seen with A&M and the LSU game that a competent QB and good pass attack can beat them.

Notre Dame with their style will simply wear down over the course of the game even with the defense they possess. Everett Golson will not beat Bama nor will he do enough to cover.

Georgia on the other hand does have what it takes (except for the coach) to beat Alabama.


Correct.  Georgia can beat Alabama because they have a balanced offense, and as I posted months ago, that's what it'll take to beat Alabama.  Aaron Murray is a very good and very experienced QB who is supported by a running game the defenses must respect.  Yes Georgia has a good defense, but it is their balanced offensive attack that could give Alabama fits.


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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:27:38 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

Golson can sling the rock. 

ND plays conservative on O if it can, but will open things up if they have to.



on the money Blood, and i'm not even a ND fan, i am a frikken ND hater!!

Kelly has opened up the offense when need be and they have been successful.  
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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:08:51 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:

Golson can sling the rock

ND plays conservative on O if it can, but will open things up if they have to.



Honest question, have you watched even 1 Notre Dame game this season? To say Everett Golson can "sling the rock" is the furthest thing from the truth. In fact, whenever Notre Dame falls behind or is forced to run a 2 minute drill type offense, Tommy Rees will usually come on the field. Do you think it's a mystery why? Golson is an athletic QB that can run the option well. Throwing the ball is certainly not his strength, especially down field.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:19:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Spartacus10:



Honest question, have you watched even 1 Notre Dame game this season? To say Everett Golson can "sling the rock" is the furthest thing from the truth. In fact, whenever Notre Dame falls behind or is forced to run a 2 minute drill type offense, Tommy Rees will usually come on the field. Do you think it's a mystery why? Golson is an athletic QB that can run the option well. Throwing the ball is certainly not his strength, especially down field.

he hit a nice deep pass or two against OU,

he does not throw down the field more than 15-18 yds very much, but when he does, he is pretty money
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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:24:50 PM
Bama will beat ND worse than they did Michigan. Be real people!! 

Do your homework!!!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:28:13 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:


he hit a nice deep pass or two against OU,

he does not throw down the field more than 15-18 yds very much, but when he does, he is pretty money


His completion % this season was under 60%.

The 4 good teams he played against this year were against Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, and Oklahoma. His completion %'s were as follows:

Michigan: 43.8%
Michigan State: 37.5%
Stanford: 50%
Oklahoma: 52%

Taking into account completions/attempts, this results in a whopping 47% completion % against good competition. Pretty damn impressive if you ask me.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:28:40 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BamaTaxMan:

Bama will beat ND worse than they did Michigan. Be real people!! 

Do your homework!!!

i bet you thought the same thing about BAMA when you were 13.5 faves at home over Johnny football,

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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:44:31 PM
Grid, nice one... Except golson couldn't hold jonny football's jock. Get real here. Explain to me how this offense of ND is gonna do anything against bama??? What am i missing?? I've seen them play. They don't have the talent to take on a team that can bring pressure with four and stop the run with 7 in the box. Im sorry but all of you who think ND can hang at 12 points are nuts. You're focus is on two things, ND's 12-0 and their defense. Hate to break it to ya but bama's one loss came to one of the best teams in the country and bama also has a pretty good defense themselves if i recall correctly
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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:54:02 PM
i truly believe that unlike 2009 and 2011, this year a team with a tremendous offensive line can run the ball right at Bama with success.

ND has a tremendous offensive line, they ran the ball on everyone this year, everyone
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:19:48 PM
Still waiting for response to post #36
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:36:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Spartacus10:

Still waiting for response to post #36

notice that his his completion pct improved every game in chronological and ascending order?  

he has improved immensely from wk 1 through wk 12, every "expert" and non expert who is objective must admit this,

mr. herbstreit and his gameday cast sure have
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:43:12 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:


notice that his his completion pct improved every game in chronological and ascending order?  

he has improved immensely from wk 1 through wk 12, every "expert" and non expert who is objective must admit this,

mr. herbstreit and his gameday cast sure have


Do you think Golson compelting even 50% of his passes against Alabama has a shot? Notre Dame will not run the ball on Alabama. The question isn't only will he be able to compelte at a high enough percentage, but will he be able to do this against by far the best pass rush he'll face this season?

If Bama gets out to an early lead and Notre Dame is forced to throw the ball, do you think they will have any chance for success?
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:50:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Spartacus10:



Do you think Golson compelting even 50% of his passes against Alabama has a shot? Notre Dame will not run the ball on Alabama. The question isn't only will he be able to compelte at a high enough percentage, but will he be able to do this against by far the best pass rush he'll face this season?

If Bama gets out to an early lead and Notre Dame is forced to throw the ball, do you think they will have any chance for success?

i believe the game plan will be to establish the running game and then play action pass with roll outs, get the kid on the edge,

this Bama team not nearly as good as last year's on D,

they can be run on, if running directly at them,

just wait.

georgia will do it this sat, and if bama wins, they'll get a full dose of it on mon, jan 7,

just wait.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:50:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:


i bet you thought the same thing about BAMA when you were 13.5 faves at home over Johnny football,


ND is not even in the same league as LSU, UF, UGA, A&M, BAMA!! 

A&M was a Red Hot team when they beat Bama. Alabama had several opportunities to win that game as well. A&M played 1 good QTR & it tirned out to be enough. But Bama was also coming off 5 straight SEC opponents who have been and/or are still ranked in the top 25 (3 on the road). No Coach is College Football keeps his team more focused over a 30 day break than Nick Saban. ND scores a TD ill be surprised. Who has ND played to make you think that Bama want blow them away?  Stanford.... I'm laughing at you.

Your angle on this game is that of a rookie bettor and Im fading you all day!!

ND's star LB had 4 tackles against USC & USC ran it down their throat. What do you think Bama will do??

Your only hope of Alabama not winning the Nationsl title by 3 TD's is UGA. 


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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:52:09 PM
the front 4 on Bama this year is not as good as last year,

this baseless that some of you are anointing them,

teams had success running the ball at them,

ND will, after Georgia does
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:56:28 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BamaTaxMan:


ND is not even in the same league as LSU, UF, UGA, A&M, BAMA!! 

A&M was a Red Hot team when they beat Bama. Alabama had several opportunities to win that game as well. A&M played 1 good QTR & it tirned out to be enough. But Bama was also coming off 5 straight SEC opponents who have been and/or are still ranked in the top 25 (3 on the road). No Coach is College Football keeps his team more focused over a 30 day break than Nick Saban. ND scores a TD ill be surprised. Who has ND played to make you think that Bama want blow them away?  Stanford.... I'm laughing at you.

Your angle on this game is that of a rookie bettor and Im fading you all day!!

ND's star LB had 4 tackles against USC & USC ran it down their throat. What do you think Bama will do??

Your only hope of Alabama not winning the Nationsl title by 3 TD's is UGA. 



the 2 best teams BAMA played were LSU and A&M,

should have lost to LSU, did lose to A&M

let's see what happens on Sat night in Atlanta
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:58:09 PM
Talking about CUP CAKES!? Notre Dames whole schedule is full of them!!! 

WF?? Vandy killed them!!
Michigan?? BAMA throttled them!! Ask Denard about us!!
USC?? What a waste of talent
Purdue LOL
Navy. Lol
BC LOL
PITT.. Have Mercy
BYU....help me Lord
Mich St. ...Enough Said

If dont think Bama can beat these teams then line then up!! That's garbage!! Pansy arse schedule!!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:59:40 PM
ND sucks!!! 1 hit wonders!!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:01:40 PM
SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC!!

I can hear it now!! 

The Irish will barely be in the Top 5 after Bama Throttles them. Saban is licking his chops for ND!!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:02:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:


the 2 best teams BAMA played were LSU and A&M,

should have lost to LSU, did lose to A&M

let's see what happens on Sat night in Atlanta


This argument holds no validity to me, you know why? Because football games are 60 minutes, not 30, not 40, not 50, but 60. I can counter your argument and say that Bama should have won both of those games. After A&M had a crazy 1st quarter, they did virtually nothing all game until Bama fumbled the kick inside their own territory.
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