You often hear the words “trap game” in the betting
community. I really don’t believe in trap games for betters, I just think
perception can get out of whack enough to appear like a game is a trap game.
When you see something jump off the page as a soft line it usually means your
betting into a 50/50 prospect at best.
Having said that Wisconsin
jumped off the page to me in this way (apparently I’m not the only one when you
review the conscience on covers, Logan’s, and the team experts.) Everybody
seems to think this is a must play on Wisconsin.
So what I like to do in these situations is find evidence to support why the
line appears soft.
Michigan has
owned Wisconsin in the big house.
They also are in pretty desperate waters with rich rod’s job in jeopardy. A win
against either Wisconsin or OhioState would save the season. So a
lot is at stake for the maze and blue. Statistically they also look good,
especially on offense, but then again those numbers diminish greatly when
compared to big ten competition and when you look at the defenses.
So let me ask you this, what else is new for Michigan?
Michigan has been in huge games
several times this season, only to crap out each time, Iowa,
MichiganState,
PennState
all +10 point losses, all crucial games.
The year prior Iowa, Michigan State,
Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, again almost all +10 point losses. Notice a
theme? Michigan has had very
little success against the Big Ten’s best the last two years. In these games
they have gone a combined 1-7 ATS, yikes.
So we know that Michigan
has done the opposite of come up big in big games for two years running. So
what’s with the small number? Nothing, it’s based on power rankings, the same response vegas will give you when you say the word "trap game".
Iowa came into
the big house -3.5 a couple weeks back. Wisconsin is coming in at -4, so the
books haven’t really adjusted the power rankings much, this in the midst of an
0-6 ATS run by Michigan and a 4-0 ATS run by the Badgers which included a win
verse Ohio State.
To further the cause Wisconsin
is in the midst of a Big Ten championship and only two games stand in the way.
They played a soft game last week. They have not won at the big house in a
long, long time. The have every reason to come into this game in the right state
of mind.
This game will follow the same pattern the rest of the Michigan
vs better Big Ten games have. Wisconsin
will run all over the porous Michigan
defense. They will be successful with the PA pass. Michigan
will move the ball in chunks, have some big plays on offense and turn the ball
over between 2-4 times. That doesn’t bode well vs a Wisconsin
team that protects the ball very well, and has been doing a great job nabbing
takeaways of late.
Don’t over think this one guys. Wisconsin
is a very strong play this week, perhaps one of the strongest. I'm putting a dime on the Badgers and not looking back.
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Wisconsin (-4)
at Michigan
You often hear the words “trap game” in the betting
community. I really don’t believe in trap games for betters, I just think
perception can get out of whack enough to appear like a game is a trap game.
When you see something jump off the page as a soft line it usually means your
betting into a 50/50 prospect at best.
Having said that Wisconsin
jumped off the page to me in this way (apparently I’m not the only one when you
review the conscience on covers, Logan’s, and the team experts.) Everybody
seems to think this is a must play on Wisconsin.
So what I like to do in these situations is find evidence to support why the
line appears soft.
Michigan has
owned Wisconsin in the big house.
They also are in pretty desperate waters with rich rod’s job in jeopardy. A win
against either Wisconsin or OhioState would save the season. So a
lot is at stake for the maze and blue. Statistically they also look good,
especially on offense, but then again those numbers diminish greatly when
compared to big ten competition and when you look at the defenses.
So let me ask you this, what else is new for Michigan?
Michigan has been in huge games
several times this season, only to crap out each time, Iowa,
MichiganState,
PennState
all +10 point losses, all crucial games.
The year prior Iowa, Michigan State,
Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, again almost all +10 point losses. Notice a
theme? Michigan has had very
little success against the Big Ten’s best the last two years. In these games
they have gone a combined 1-7 ATS, yikes.
So we know that Michigan
has done the opposite of come up big in big games for two years running. So
what’s with the small number? Nothing, it’s based on power rankings, the same response vegas will give you when you say the word "trap game".
Iowa came into
the big house -3.5 a couple weeks back. Wisconsin is coming in at -4, so the
books haven’t really adjusted the power rankings much, this in the midst of an
0-6 ATS run by Michigan and a 4-0 ATS run by the Badgers which included a win
verse Ohio State.
To further the cause Wisconsin
is in the midst of a Big Ten championship and only two games stand in the way.
They played a soft game last week. They have not won at the big house in a
long, long time. The have every reason to come into this game in the right state
of mind.
This game will follow the same pattern the rest of the Michigan
vs better Big Ten games have. Wisconsin
will run all over the porous Michigan
defense. They will be successful with the PA pass. Michigan
will move the ball in chunks, have some big plays on offense and turn the ball
over between 2-4 times. That doesn’t bode well vs a Wisconsin
team that protects the ball very well, and has been doing a great job nabbing
takeaways of late.
Don’t over think this one guys. Wisconsin
is a very strong play this week, perhaps one of the strongest. I'm putting a dime on the Badgers and not looking back.
You often hear the words “trap game” in the betting community. I really don’t believe in trap games for betters, I just think perception can get out of whack enough to appear like a game is a trap game. When you see something jump off the page as a soft line it usually means your betting into a 50/50 prospect at best.
Having said that Wisconsin jumped off the page to me in this way (apparently I’m not the only one when you review the conscience on covers, Logan’s, and the team experts.) Everybody seems to think this is a must play on Wisconsin. So what I like to do in these situations is find evidence to support why the line appears soft.
Michigan has owned Wisconsin in the big house. They also are in pretty desperate waters with rich rod’s job in jeopardy. A win against either Wisconsin or OhioState would save the season. So a lot is at stake for the maze and blue. Statistically they also look good, especially on offense, but then again those numbers diminish greatly when compared to big ten competition and when you look at the defenses.
So let me ask you this, what else is new for Michigan? Michigan has been in huge games several times this season, only to crap out each time, Iowa, MichiganState, PennState all +10 point losses, all crucial games.
The year prior Iowa, Michigan State, Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, again almost all +10 point losses. Notice a theme? Michigan has had very little success against the Big Ten’s best the last two years. In these games they have gone a combined 1-7 ATS, yikes.
So we know that Michigan has done the opposite of come up big in big games for two years running. So what’s with the small number? Nothing, it’s based on power rankings, the same response vegas will give you when you say the word "trap game".
Iowa came into the big house -3.5 a couple weeks back. Wisconsin is coming in at -4, so the books haven’t really adjusted the power rankings much, this in the midst of an 0-6 ATS run by Michigan and a 4-0 ATS run by the Badgers which included a win verse Ohio State.
To further the cause Wisconsin is in the midst of a Big Ten championship and only two games stand in the way. They played a soft game last week. They have not won at the big house in a long, long time. The have every reason to come into this game in the right state of mind.
This game will follow the same pattern the rest of the Michigan vs better Big Ten games have. Wisconsin will run all over the porous Michigan defense. They will be successful with the PA pass. Michigan will move the ball in chunks, have some big plays on offense and turn the ball over between 2-4 times. That doesn’t bode well vs a Wisconsin team that protects the ball very well, and has been doing a great job nabbing takeaways of late.
Don’t over think this one guys. Wisconsin is a very strong play this week, perhaps one of the strongest. I'm putting a dime on the Badgers and not looking back.
Nice post, but as a Badger fan, this game scares the heck out of me! I do not trust Coach Bilema very much, even though he finally broke through against Ohio St, then Iowa. If Alvarez was our coach, I would have more faith! And after last week, they might not be ready to play! I think they underestimate Michigan's speed, and that will hurt them! Goodluck, we shall see if this is trap or Vegas games!
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Wisconsin (-4) at Michigan
You often hear the words “trap game” in the betting community. I really don’t believe in trap games for betters, I just think perception can get out of whack enough to appear like a game is a trap game. When you see something jump off the page as a soft line it usually means your betting into a 50/50 prospect at best.
Having said that Wisconsin jumped off the page to me in this way (apparently I’m not the only one when you review the conscience on covers, Logan’s, and the team experts.) Everybody seems to think this is a must play on Wisconsin. So what I like to do in these situations is find evidence to support why the line appears soft.
Michigan has owned Wisconsin in the big house. They also are in pretty desperate waters with rich rod’s job in jeopardy. A win against either Wisconsin or OhioState would save the season. So a lot is at stake for the maze and blue. Statistically they also look good, especially on offense, but then again those numbers diminish greatly when compared to big ten competition and when you look at the defenses.
So let me ask you this, what else is new for Michigan? Michigan has been in huge games several times this season, only to crap out each time, Iowa, MichiganState, PennState all +10 point losses, all crucial games.
The year prior Iowa, Michigan State, Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, again almost all +10 point losses. Notice a theme? Michigan has had very little success against the Big Ten’s best the last two years. In these games they have gone a combined 1-7 ATS, yikes.
So we know that Michigan has done the opposite of come up big in big games for two years running. So what’s with the small number? Nothing, it’s based on power rankings, the same response vegas will give you when you say the word "trap game".
Iowa came into the big house -3.5 a couple weeks back. Wisconsin is coming in at -4, so the books haven’t really adjusted the power rankings much, this in the midst of an 0-6 ATS run by Michigan and a 4-0 ATS run by the Badgers which included a win verse Ohio State.
To further the cause Wisconsin is in the midst of a Big Ten championship and only two games stand in the way. They played a soft game last week. They have not won at the big house in a long, long time. The have every reason to come into this game in the right state of mind.
This game will follow the same pattern the rest of the Michigan vs better Big Ten games have. Wisconsin will run all over the porous Michigan defense. They will be successful with the PA pass. Michigan will move the ball in chunks, have some big plays on offense and turn the ball over between 2-4 times. That doesn’t bode well vs a Wisconsin team that protects the ball very well, and has been doing a great job nabbing takeaways of late.
Don’t over think this one guys. Wisconsin is a very strong play this week, perhaps one of the strongest. I'm putting a dime on the Badgers and not looking back.
Nice post, but as a Badger fan, this game scares the heck out of me! I do not trust Coach Bilema very much, even though he finally broke through against Ohio St, then Iowa. If Alvarez was our coach, I would have more faith! And after last week, they might not be ready to play! I think they underestimate Michigan's speed, and that will hurt them! Goodluck, we shall see if this is trap or Vegas games!
It's very difficult for me to bet on a team that won by 80pts the previous week and chalking only -4 this week. Better games on the board but gun to my head, I would suck it up and take the homedog, all kind of crazy shit have happen in the past and I will roll the dice with Mich.
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It's very difficult for me to bet on a team that won by 80pts the previous week and chalking only -4 this week. Better games on the board but gun to my head, I would suck it up and take the homedog, all kind of crazy shit have happen in the past and I will roll the dice with Mich.
Michigan's two best defensive players are questionable. DT Martin and LB Mouton. If they are out, then there is no way Wisconsin won't put up a 50 spot on them. That RB White, who I believe is better than Clay, will unleash the fury on us. I'm a Michigan fan, and I'm all over Wisky ML. BOL.
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Michigan's two best defensive players are questionable. DT Martin and LB Mouton. If they are out, then there is no way Wisconsin won't put up a 50 spot on them. That RB White, who I believe is better than Clay, will unleash the fury on us. I'm a Michigan fan, and I'm all over Wisky ML. BOL.
Nice post, but as a Badger fan, this game scares the heck out of me! I do not trust Coach Bilema very much, even though he finally broke through against Ohio St, then Iowa. If Alvarez was our coach, I would have more faith! And after last week, they might not be ready to play! I think they underestimate Michigan's speed, and that will hurt them! Goodluck, we shall see if this is trap or Vegas games!
I don't see a cake walk and can respect why you feel like you do. At the same time this is not the normal Michigan either.
Martin the best defensive lineman is banged up, Mouton perhaps the best linebacker is banged up. The entire secondary is basically into the 2 deep from injuries, and the starters were not very good before. This whole defense is a joke before injuries and now those are adding up.
Offensively they can be very dangerous, but inevitably any progress or success they have is ruined by excessive turnovers. Not the kind that you see once in awhile, but a steady diet of 3+ turnovers for a long time. Denard really struggles in the RZ, he makes horrible decisions. They don't have any accuracy in the kicking game.
Again, to me, it's just to much. I so rarely play a game with such a heavy conscience on one side, but I've learned that value can be had in these spots if your very selective. This really stands out. Good luck to your Badgers, obviously.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dbarsch:
Nice post, but as a Badger fan, this game scares the heck out of me! I do not trust Coach Bilema very much, even though he finally broke through against Ohio St, then Iowa. If Alvarez was our coach, I would have more faith! And after last week, they might not be ready to play! I think they underestimate Michigan's speed, and that will hurt them! Goodluck, we shall see if this is trap or Vegas games!
I don't see a cake walk and can respect why you feel like you do. At the same time this is not the normal Michigan either.
Martin the best defensive lineman is banged up, Mouton perhaps the best linebacker is banged up. The entire secondary is basically into the 2 deep from injuries, and the starters were not very good before. This whole defense is a joke before injuries and now those are adding up.
Offensively they can be very dangerous, but inevitably any progress or success they have is ruined by excessive turnovers. Not the kind that you see once in awhile, but a steady diet of 3+ turnovers for a long time. Denard really struggles in the RZ, he makes horrible decisions. They don't have any accuracy in the kicking game.
Again, to me, it's just to much. I so rarely play a game with such a heavy conscience on one side, but I've learned that value can be had in these spots if your very selective. This really stands out. Good luck to your Badgers, obviously.
I don't trust Tolzien in a shootout game. Then the line opens at 5.5, goes down but the world is on Wisky. After watching that Illinois game and what UM did against what was supposed to be a pretty good D, I have no doubt that Michigan will put up big points.
UM is more battle tested and would love to derail the UW party train. UW has one good road win against an overrated Iowa team. If you are right and UM does turn it over more than twice, you probably will have a good bet. But if they don't.....
Good luck but I like UM.
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I don't trust Tolzien in a shootout game. Then the line opens at 5.5, goes down but the world is on Wisky. After watching that Illinois game and what UM did against what was supposed to be a pretty good D, I have no doubt that Michigan will put up big points.
UM is more battle tested and would love to derail the UW party train. UW has one good road win against an overrated Iowa team. If you are right and UM does turn it over more than twice, you probably will have a good bet. But if they don't.....
I don't trust Tolzien in a shootout game. Then the line opens at 5.5, goes down but the world is on Wisky. After watching that Illinois game and what UM did against what was supposed to be a pretty good D, I have no doubt that Michigan will put up big points.
UM is more battle tested and would love to derail the UW party train. UW has one good road win against an overrated Iowa team. If you are right and UM does turn it over more than twice, you probably will have a good bet. But if they don't.....
Good luck but I like UM.
Have you had the chance to watch the majority of the U of M games this year? I don't ask to sound condescending, I just want to make some comments on what I've seen (2 straight years).
This Michigan defense is nothing like the pre Rich Rod defenses and this has been the worst of it. They have a very hard time stopping the pass, so they load the box, and in doing so they aren't disciplined. They often lose gap responsibility. Result is big plays in the rushing game. Wisconsin will be able to score Saturday, my guess is upwards of 30+.
Rich Rod has a fun offense to watch. I love it, I support him. At the same time, the system itself is turnover prone and has been since his W. Virginia days. The way the run that read option can lead to some huge rushing numbers, but it's such a late give that it often gets sloppy. He also has a run first QB, Denard being a first year starter.So in the passing game on passing downs you have very turnover heavy situations, worse as the field condenses. This is exactly what Michigan does against the Big Ten and more specifically the higher rated Big Ten teams.
In Big Ten play Michigan has AVERAGED 1.8 INT's a game and 2.3 fumbles, 1.2 recovered. Worst in Big Ten play. In the 8 games I mention against the top tier big ten schools they have 22 turnovers.
Wisconsin in Big Ten play has Averaged .5 Int and .5 fumbles per game, non have been recovered for turnovers. Best in Big Ten play.
In fact Wisconsin is #1 in Big Ten play turnover differential and Michigan is last.
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I don't trust Tolzien in a shootout game. Then the line opens at 5.5, goes down but the world is on Wisky. After watching that Illinois game and what UM did against what was supposed to be a pretty good D, I have no doubt that Michigan will put up big points.
UM is more battle tested and would love to derail the UW party train. UW has one good road win against an overrated Iowa team. If you are right and UM does turn it over more than twice, you probably will have a good bet. But if they don't.....
Good luck but I like UM.
Have you had the chance to watch the majority of the U of M games this year? I don't ask to sound condescending, I just want to make some comments on what I've seen (2 straight years).
This Michigan defense is nothing like the pre Rich Rod defenses and this has been the worst of it. They have a very hard time stopping the pass, so they load the box, and in doing so they aren't disciplined. They often lose gap responsibility. Result is big plays in the rushing game. Wisconsin will be able to score Saturday, my guess is upwards of 30+.
Rich Rod has a fun offense to watch. I love it, I support him. At the same time, the system itself is turnover prone and has been since his W. Virginia days. The way the run that read option can lead to some huge rushing numbers, but it's such a late give that it often gets sloppy. He also has a run first QB, Denard being a first year starter.So in the passing game on passing downs you have very turnover heavy situations, worse as the field condenses. This is exactly what Michigan does against the Big Ten and more specifically the higher rated Big Ten teams.
In Big Ten play Michigan has AVERAGED 1.8 INT's a game and 2.3 fumbles, 1.2 recovered. Worst in Big Ten play. In the 8 games I mention against the top tier big ten schools they have 22 turnovers.
Wisconsin in Big Ten play has Averaged .5 Int and .5 fumbles per game, non have been recovered for turnovers. Best in Big Ten play.
In fact Wisconsin is #1 in Big Ten play turnover differential and Michigan is last.
As a Michigan Homer I can say that the lack of a Field Goal Kicker from outside the 20 yardline adds to the discussion that Whisky covers. No Play on this game for me this week. May make a 2nd Half play at best.
I think the line next week at the Horseshoe will be overinflated for Ohio State and Michigan will cover as a large dog ATS but will not win.
BIG 10 Suggestion: Take Iowa +3.5 at home against an Ohio State team that is looking ahead and incorporating next week's Michigan game in their practices this week. Iowa may win straight up at home.
Nice write up. BOL
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As a Michigan Homer I can say that the lack of a Field Goal Kicker from outside the 20 yardline adds to the discussion that Whisky covers. No Play on this game for me this week. May make a 2nd Half play at best.
I think the line next week at the Horseshoe will be overinflated for Ohio State and Michigan will cover as a large dog ATS but will not win.
BIG 10 Suggestion: Take Iowa +3.5 at home against an Ohio State team that is looking ahead and incorporating next week's Michigan game in their practices this week. Iowa may win straight up at home.
As a Michigan Homer I can say that the lack of a Field Goal Kicker from outside the 20 yardline adds to the discussion that Whisky covers. No Play on this game for me this week. May make a 2nd Half play at best.
I think the line next week at the Horseshoe will be overinflated for Ohio State and Michigan will cover as a large dog ATS but will not win.
BIG 10 Suggestion: Take Iowa +3.5 at home against an Ohio State team that is looking ahead and incorporating next week's Michigan game in their practices this week. Iowa may win straight up at home.
Nice write up. BOL
Are you serious?
Come on dude. No way, Ohio State is looking ahead. I'm not saying Iowa is a bad play. Ohio State has been slow to start on the road this year and this game could be a tight one, but they aren't looking ahead to Michigan. Haven't had to worry about this for years.
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Quote Originally Posted by ARUKIDNME:
As a Michigan Homer I can say that the lack of a Field Goal Kicker from outside the 20 yardline adds to the discussion that Whisky covers. No Play on this game for me this week. May make a 2nd Half play at best.
I think the line next week at the Horseshoe will be overinflated for Ohio State and Michigan will cover as a large dog ATS but will not win.
BIG 10 Suggestion: Take Iowa +3.5 at home against an Ohio State team that is looking ahead and incorporating next week's Michigan game in their practices this week. Iowa may win straight up at home.
Nice write up. BOL
Are you serious?
Come on dude. No way, Ohio State is looking ahead. I'm not saying Iowa is a bad play. Ohio State has been slow to start on the road this year and this game could be a tight one, but they aren't looking ahead to Michigan. Haven't had to worry about this for years.
Oh yeah, I love Wisconsin this week. Perception is Michigan is a pretty good team at 7-3, but they could have easily lost the last 2 games and would be 5-5. Pounding Wisconsin -4.5, LARGE bet!
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Oh yeah, I love Wisconsin this week. Perception is Michigan is a pretty good team at 7-3, but they could have easily lost the last 2 games and would be 5-5. Pounding Wisconsin -4.5, LARGE bet!
I've watched every Michigan game this year, and 2x is very correct in pretty much everything he has posted. This line reminds me of the OK State line v Texas. OK State was playing great football and was a 5 pt favorite vs a Texas team that was playing very poor, yet they had not won in Austin in forever. State covered easily (33-16). Everybody was saying "trap game" "Line looks fishy" etc, etc. I took OK State based on the eye test, knowing they were the better team and if I lost, so be it.
I look at this game much the same way. Based on the eye test, Wisconsin is flat out the better team for much of the reasons 2x has pointed out. If Wisky somehow doesn't beat this team by 10+ (easily) I would be shocked. If Michigan plays out of their ass and comes away with the cover, I can live with myself knowing I made the right play based on what I have watched from both teams every Saturday all year.
The ONLY thing Michigan has going in their favor is Senior Day at the Big House. Maybe the team rallies around a bunch of Seniors that have had a tough go at things the last couple of years. Other than that, Michigan is VERY out manned in the trenches, Robinson is regressing in the pass game, they have no kicking game, can't tackle in space, and have turned the ball over 10x the past two weeks.
FYI: Both Martin and Muoton have been practicing this week and are expected to play.
Lastly, I think OSU picks up the victory v Iowa. The OSU beat down by the Badgers on the road will be what helps Ohio State in this game. If they went to Wisky and won I would be more concerned, but because of what happened to them at Wisky, that will help this team focus. Imo, OSU is more talented across the board..
My .02
Good Luck To ALL!
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I've watched every Michigan game this year, and 2x is very correct in pretty much everything he has posted. This line reminds me of the OK State line v Texas. OK State was playing great football and was a 5 pt favorite vs a Texas team that was playing very poor, yet they had not won in Austin in forever. State covered easily (33-16). Everybody was saying "trap game" "Line looks fishy" etc, etc. I took OK State based on the eye test, knowing they were the better team and if I lost, so be it.
I look at this game much the same way. Based on the eye test, Wisconsin is flat out the better team for much of the reasons 2x has pointed out. If Wisky somehow doesn't beat this team by 10+ (easily) I would be shocked. If Michigan plays out of their ass and comes away with the cover, I can live with myself knowing I made the right play based on what I have watched from both teams every Saturday all year.
The ONLY thing Michigan has going in their favor is Senior Day at the Big House. Maybe the team rallies around a bunch of Seniors that have had a tough go at things the last couple of years. Other than that, Michigan is VERY out manned in the trenches, Robinson is regressing in the pass game, they have no kicking game, can't tackle in space, and have turned the ball over 10x the past two weeks.
FYI: Both Martin and Muoton have been practicing this week and are expected to play.
Lastly, I think OSU picks up the victory v Iowa. The OSU beat down by the Badgers on the road will be what helps Ohio State in this game. If they went to Wisky and won I would be more concerned, but because of what happened to them at Wisky, that will help this team focus. Imo, OSU is more talented across the board..
As a Michigan Homer I can say that the lack of a Field Goal Kicker from outside the 20 yardline adds to the discussion that Whisky covers. No Play on this game for me this week. May make a 2nd Half play at best.
I think the line next week at the Horseshoe will be overinflated for Ohio State and Michigan will cover as a large dog ATS but will not win.
BIG 10 Suggestion: Take Iowa +3.5 at home against an Ohio State team that is looking ahead and incorporating next week's Michigan game in their practices this week. Iowa may win straight up at home.
Nice write up. BOL
No way does Tressell look ahead to a MeShitAgain team that he knows he will dominate. The Buckeyes will win easily against an overrated Iowa team but just to be safe I bought it down to 2.5 early.
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As a Michigan Homer I can say that the lack of a Field Goal Kicker from outside the 20 yardline adds to the discussion that Whisky covers. No Play on this game for me this week. May make a 2nd Half play at best.
I think the line next week at the Horseshoe will be overinflated for Ohio State and Michigan will cover as a large dog ATS but will not win.
BIG 10 Suggestion: Take Iowa +3.5 at home against an Ohio State team that is looking ahead and incorporating next week's Michigan game in their practices this week. Iowa may win straight up at home.
Nice write up. BOL
No way does Tressell look ahead to a MeShitAgain team that he knows he will dominate. The Buckeyes will win easily against an overrated Iowa team but just to be safe I bought it down to 2.5 early.
By your prediction of Wisky and OSU winning out, OSU would only share the Big Ten Title, and that would be bad for OSU. OSU would then be tied a-top the Big Ten with a team that beat them head-to-head, thus Wisky would represent the Big Ten in the Rose Bowl.
If MSU, Wisconsin and Ohio State all win out, it will be interesting to see how the Bowl Selection process shakes out. Wisky would still go to the Rose, leaving the at-large to either MSU or OSU. A lot of people have given Dantonio a lot of credit this year and may reward him with a BCS game. That would leave Ohio State in the Captial One Bowl. With that said, OSU travels so well and turns on a lot of TV sets. I can't see MSU being picked over OSU as an at-large.
Basically, If you are an OSU fan, you need to Michigan to win this weekend and MSU to lose next weekend v PSU. Only then would you take home a clear "Big Ten Title" and go to the Rose Bowl.
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jmilrod,
By your prediction of Wisky and OSU winning out, OSU would only share the Big Ten Title, and that would be bad for OSU. OSU would then be tied a-top the Big Ten with a team that beat them head-to-head, thus Wisky would represent the Big Ten in the Rose Bowl.
If MSU, Wisconsin and Ohio State all win out, it will be interesting to see how the Bowl Selection process shakes out. Wisky would still go to the Rose, leaving the at-large to either MSU or OSU. A lot of people have given Dantonio a lot of credit this year and may reward him with a BCS game. That would leave Ohio State in the Captial One Bowl. With that said, OSU travels so well and turns on a lot of TV sets. I can't see MSU being picked over OSU as an at-large.
Basically, If you are an OSU fan, you need to Michigan to win this weekend and MSU to lose next weekend v PSU. Only then would you take home a clear "Big Ten Title" and go to the Rose Bowl.
As a Michigan Homer I can say that the lack of a Field Goal Kicker from outside the 20 yardline adds to the discussion that Whisky covers. No Play on this game for me this week. May make a 2nd Half play at best.
I think the line next week at the Horseshoe will be overinflated for Ohio State and Michigan will cover as a large dog ATS but will not win.
BIG 10 Suggestion: Take Iowa +3.5 at home against an Ohio State team that is looking ahead and incorporating next week's Michigan game in their practices this week. Iowa may win straight up at home.
Nice write up. BOL
Ohio State is looking ahead What is your evidence of that? Ohio State has beat Michigan 9 out of the last 10 times or something like that. Iowa on the road is by far a much bigger test. This makes no sense
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Quote Originally Posted by ARUKIDNME:
As a Michigan Homer I can say that the lack of a Field Goal Kicker from outside the 20 yardline adds to the discussion that Whisky covers. No Play on this game for me this week. May make a 2nd Half play at best.
I think the line next week at the Horseshoe will be overinflated for Ohio State and Michigan will cover as a large dog ATS but will not win.
BIG 10 Suggestion: Take Iowa +3.5 at home against an Ohio State team that is looking ahead and incorporating next week's Michigan game in their practices this week. Iowa may win straight up at home.
Nice write up. BOL
Ohio State is looking ahead What is your evidence of that? Ohio State has beat Michigan 9 out of the last 10 times or something like that. Iowa on the road is by far a much bigger test. This makes no sense
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at wiscy as well.
BOL
What is your evidence of that? Ohio State has beat Michigan 9 out of the last 10 times or something like that. Iowa on the road is by far a much bigger test. This makes no sense
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