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Posted: 10/13/2010 2:38:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

Jimmy, It is laughable that you rank Boise 80th in the country in terms of talent. Boise has good athletes all over the field....I really don't know what games you have been watching this season to say Boise has the 80th most talented team in the country?

I really wish Boise had Georgia on the schedule this season...I would give you the Bulldogs +28 and call it a day...and a win for me as well...

I've already explained this in great detail, but here goes again.

Boise's average recruiting ranking over the last 5 years is 82.  Florida's average recruiting ranking during the same period of time is 3.8, Alabama's is 5.6 and LSU's is 6.  Boise has 1 4* recruit on their entire roster.  Florida, Alabama and LSU recruit about 20 4 and 5* recruits per year.  So am I suppose to believe that Boise's talent in in the same league as these 3 teams?

 

 

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Posted: 10/13/2010 2:39:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Zander47:

FL would get killed. They are a mess whether you wanna believe or not

They would get well in a hurry if they got to play Boise.

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Posted: 10/13/2010 2:47:41 AM
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Are you friggin serious? The only team that would/should be a favorite over Boise on a neutral field is Bama, and that by 6 or less. I would take them over ANY other SEC team this year. To say they couldnt beat Miss, Miss St, Kentucky, Tennesee, Vanderbilt, Florida, LSU Auburn, Arkansas and Florida is just retarded. They would have the better coach, qb and winning attitude over all these schools. They are more disciplined and dont beat themselves. How many Boise players in the news for going to jail?......Hell, I'll take them over Bama in a bowl game too.....


You would lose your money.  If Boise played an SEC West scedule, they'd be lucky to win 3 games.  Bama, Arkansas, Auburn and LSU would not only beat Boise, they would destroy them.  Boise would have a legit shot at beatin the Mississippi schools, Vandy, Tennessee and maybe Georgia.  With their current roster they do not have either the talent or depth to be competitive in that conference.  They would be by far the least talented team in the conference.

 

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Posted: 10/13/2010 2:51:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

Jimmy, It is laughable that you rank Boise 80th in the country in terms of talent. Boise has good athletes all over the field....I really don't know what games you have been watching this season to say Boise has the 80th most talented team in the country?

I really wish Boise had Georgia on the schedule this season...I would give you the Bulldogs +28 and call it a day...and a win for me as well...

I did not rank them 80th, professional ranking sevices rank them 80th (actual the average of last 5 recruiting classes is 82).

 

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Posted: 10/13/2010 2:52:41 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

They would get well in a hurry if they got to play Boise.



you really have no idea what you are talking about. every time you open your mouth you make yourself look worse!
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Posted: 10/13/2010 2:56:06 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

They would get well in a hurry if they got to play Boise.



The funniest thing about all this, these guys think you are way off base here. They have finally made the public believe Boise is a real football team. 
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Posted: 10/13/2010 3:12:59 AM
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The funniest thing about all this, these guys think you are way off base here. They have finally made the public believe Boise is a real football team. 

The propoganda channels of the mainstream media is a very powerful mind numbing implement.

I should be fixing a server right now, but I'm having way too much fun provoking Boise worshipers with facts they can't refute.  Notice almost all use "The Law of Logical Argument" which says that "anything is possible when you don't know what you are talking about."

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Posted: 10/13/2010 3:15:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Professional1:



you really have no idea what you are talking about. every time you open your mouth you make yourself look worse!

So you are trying to convince me that talent doesn't matter in college football?

 

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Posted: 10/13/2010 3:19:24 AM
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you really have no idea what you are talking about. every time you open your mouth you make yourself look worse!

Obviously Florida's 5* elite NFL athletes are no match for Boise's 2* athletes.  What the hell was I thinking.

 

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Posted: 10/13/2010 3:21:46 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

Obviously Florida's 5* elite NFL athletes are no match for Boise's 2* athletes.  What the hell was I thinking.

 



You are the dumb behind, DA BLUE TURF!!!!!!!
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Posted: 10/13/2010 3:33:58 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

They would get well in a hurry if they got to play Boise.

So you would lay points on a neutral site or on the road with this Florida team ?
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Posted: 10/13/2010 7:42:20 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

I know it shatters your unrealistic college football world, but I said it because it's true.  Out of 120 college football teams in the nation, the best recruiting ranking Boise has had in the last 5 years is 74th.  They usually rank in the 80-90 range.  Last year they had the third best recruiting class in the WAC for crying out loud.

An average college recruit gets a 3* ranking.  The average star rating for Boise's current roster is slightly under 2.4.  The average star ranking for Boise's current recriting class (2011) is 1.73.  Four of their recruits are not even good enough to be ranked at all.  In other words, they have 4 0* recruits.  Last year Boise recruited Tyrone Crawford which I think is the first 4* recruit they ever gotten in the history of the program.

There are usually only about 30 5* recruits in the nation per year.  Right now there are only 13 so far (that will increase as the rankings are updated).  There are usually about 120 4* recruits a year.  With that perspective let's see what a top 6 recruiting class looks like compared to Boise.

#1  USC  5 - 5*  14 - 4*  1 - 3*  (Total 20)

#2  Florida  4 - 5*  18 - 4*  5 - 3*  (Total 27)

#3  Texas  2 - 5*  19 - 4*  4 - 3*  (Total 25)

#4  Auburn  3 - 5*  13 - 4*  13 - 3*  (Total 29)

#5  Alabama  1 - 5*  15 - 4*  9 - 3*  (Total 25)

#6  LSU  1 - 1*  15 - 4*  13 - 3*  (Total 29)

# 74 Boise  0 - 5*  1 - 4* (the first in their history)  6 - 3*  (Total 7)

***  Keep in mind that the NCAA maximum a team can is 25 recruits per year.

How many of those top 6 recruiting classes will Boise have to play this year?  Answer:  0

How many of those top 6 recruiting classes will Alabama have to play this year?  Answer: 3

Every college football program (and coach) in the country understands that the life-blood of any program is recruiting.  That's why they put so much effort in that endeavor.

Now there is a lot more to college football than just recruiting rankings.  Coaches have to manage and develope that talent.  What these rankings show is what an outstanding job Boise's coaching staff has done in that regard.  But what these ranking also show is the enormous talent gap between teams who consistently pull top 10 recruiting classes (more than half which are usually SEC teams) and teams that play in the WAC (for example).  And if you think for one second that Boise could consistently play with any of these teams, I recommend you stick your finger in light socket.

BTW, what a team did in previous years has absolutely no bearing on where this year's team should be ranked.  Should this year's Georgia team be ranked ahead of Florida because they beat them 3 years ago?  Of course not.  And if you think for a second that Oregon is remotely the same pathetic team they were in the first game of last year, stick your other hand in a fully energized light socket.

But since you bring up past results, what happened the last two times a WAC team faced a top teir SEC team?  Answer:  Both Boise and Hawaii (who beat Boise that year) lost by 5 TDs a piece.  Why?  See the recruiting analysis above.

 

First off, I don't give dam if Bosie had 1*' players acorss the entire roster. I don't care if Bama has 5*' players for every poistion. Why are you drifting away from the statement you made. Please stick to the point of your statement. You stated there are 10-15 teams that would be Bosie easily.

If Bosie played in the Pac 10 they be in the top 2. The Pac 10 went something like 9-5 in Bowl games the last two years. So again I ask and please don't aviod the question. Are there really 10 to 15 teams that can spank Bosie?

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Posted: 10/13/2010 7:43:12 AM
Your statement that you made and the entire topic of this post is based on team results. I repeat team results. I dont care about each single player ranking.
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Posted: 10/13/2010 10:31:33 AM
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First off, I don't give dam if Bosie had 1*' players acorss the entire roster. I don't care if Bama has 5*' players for every poistion. Why are you drifting away from the statement you made. Please stick to the point of your statement. You stated there are 10-15 teams that would be Bosie easily.

If Bosie played in the Pac 10 they be in the top 2. The Pac 10 went something like 9-5 in Bowl games the last two years. So again I ask and please don't aviod the question. Are there really 10 to 15 teams that can spank Bosie?

Never said there were 10-15 teams that would beat Boise "easily" or "spank" them.  But yes, there are easily 10-15 teams better than Boise.

Boise doesn't have the talent or the depth to survive the schedule of any BCS conference except maybe the Big Least.  They would lose multiple games if they were in the Big 10, Big 12, ACC, PAC 10 or the SEC.  In the SEC they wouldn't even have a winning conference record.  This is a team that is not better than the Virginia Tech team they beat.

But by your own admission Boise is not the best team in the country because even you concede that they would not even be the best team in the PAC 10 (which is true).  They struggled to beat one PAC 10 bottom-feeder at home.  Just imagaine if they had to play 8 PAC 10 teams (like PAC 10 teams have to do).  They would easily lose 2 or 3 games in such a scenario.

National championships need to be earned, not handed to the cutest, fluffiest, feel-good team. Boise cannot beat an elite college football team because they don't play one.  If they did, they would most likely lose convincingly.

 

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Posted: 10/13/2010 10:55:55 AM
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So you would lay points on a neutral site or on the road with this Florida team ?

Florida has lost to Alabama and LSU, two teams that also easily beat Boise.  How many games would Boise have lost by now if they had played Florida's schedule?  Answer: 2-3.  How many games would Florida have lost if they played Boise's schedule?  Answer:  Zero.  So Florida is not a bad team because they lost to probably the two most talented teams in the country besides them.  So would I lay points with Florida versus Boise?  All day long.

Someone asked me a couple of weeks ago why I would lay points with a horrible Ole Miss team against Fresno.  My answer was because I'll take my chances with any SEC team playing any WAC team laying a short line at home anytime.  Ole Miss won by 3 TDs.  If you take out Fresno and inserted Boise into that same situation, I'd make the same bet, and most likely cash again.

 

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Posted: 10/13/2010 10:57:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

If Boise were crowned the national champion of college football, it would be the biggest mockery in sports history!!!



your BS is getting really old!
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Posted: 10/13/2010 10:58:53 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

Boise would lose to about 10-15 teams in the country on neutral field, and most of those games would not be competitive. 


seriously...



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Posted: 10/13/2010 11:03:57 AM
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Your statement that you made and the entire topic of this post is based on team results. I repeat team results. I dont care about each single player ranking.

I agree.  Results are what counts, and Boise will never have results against top tier competition becasue the don't play top tier competition.  And if they did, they would be exposed.

In case you missed it, this is what the resume of a national championship caliber team looks like.

***  Alabama became the first team in major college football history to defeat the last three previous national champions in the same season (24-15 vs '07 champion LSU, 32-13 vs '08 & '06 champion Florida and 37-21 vs '05 champion Texas ).

***  Alabama became the first team in major college football history to defeat two straight opponents with at least a 12-0 record (defeated 12-0 Florida in SEC title game and 13-0 Texas in BCS title game).

***  Alabama placed six players on the Associated Press All-American first team. That's the most ever selected from one team (previously five by Oklahoma in '87 & '03).

***  Alabama defeated 10 bowl opponents in 2009. That's the most ever recorded in major college football history.

Now compare that to Boise's resume.  A win over Virginia Tech and Oregon State.  Whoopie!!!

 

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Posted: 10/13/2010 11:13:37 AM
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your BS is getting really old!

So I guess any minute now you are going to make a persuasive argument showing me where I went wrong right?  You are going to show me how a WAC team with 2* talent is better than teams stocked with elite 4 and 5-star NFL caliber talent right?  Please tell me "your BS is getting old" is not all you have.  Please tell me you're just getting warmed up.

 

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seriously...



Yup  . . . seriously.  And anyone with a football IQ in excess that of a walnut understands that.

 

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Jimmy, sorry to see you gained  up on by a pack of f..king idiots. Anyone in the right mind who watches football on a daily basis can in no way, shape or form say that Boise could compete in the SEC on a week to week schedule and comeout of there with no less than 3 losses. Most of ya'll never played before, didya? A bunch of panty waist Skip Baylees, Jim Rome wanna be's. Folks, 90% of the time in football from f-ing peewees to pro's, the best talent on the feild wins. Boise could not run the 3 week schedule Bama just did and done any better. All three teams are far superior in talent and coaching. It would have been a bloodbath. Wake up folks, we do not live in the Land of Oz. Let reality set in...... It is a  stupid arguement that shouldn't even be discussed. Quality win, a middle of the road ACC team........ Quality win, a middle of the road Pac 10 team. Hell, they play Idaho in a high school gymnasium. The average size of crowds away from home are 27,000. You wanna tell me they step into the SEC where they are playing against teams away from home in w/ 90,000 plus breathing down their neck that they wouldn't fold like a cheap suit. There is a reason LSU is so good at home, the swamp is a tough place to play. Get real people....... Behind you all the way Jimmy!!!
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Posted: 10/13/2010 12:25:09 PM
   Says gotigers with all of nine posts....And what a coincidence, an SEC lover from Tennessee.....I'm sure Boise would be scared playing the powerhouse known as LSU...LSU would have trouble scoring a touchdown against Boise St...it is laughable that you think the SEC is so great this season...
   There are 3 teams in the SEC that could beat Boise in Bama, South Carolina, and Auburn....No one else in the SEC would beat Boise this season...
   I would give you the Vols at home with four touchdowns...too bad they don't play...it would be fun to watch Boise massacre the Vols at home...
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QUOTE Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

   Says gotigers with all of nine posts....And what a coincidence, an SEC lover from Tennessee.....I'm sure Boise would be scared playing the powerhouse known as LSU...LSU would have trouble scoring a touchdown against Boise St...it is laughable that you think the SEC is so great this season...
   There are 3 teams in the SEC that could beat Boise in Bama, South Carolina, and Auburn....No one else in the SEC would beat Boise this season...
   I would give you the Vols at home with four touchdowns...too bad they don't play...it would be fun to watch Boise massacre the Vols at home...
look here dumbass, did you ever play? Flag football with your happy friends does not count. Neither does nintendo, x-box or playstation. The numbers don't add up. The WAC is nowhere close to the SEC and VaTech is no way even close to being a measuring stick for a national championship team. Go back to your video games and play your fantasy league football you polesmoker!!
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gotiger...noticed your favorite player was Brett Favre...You misspelled his name as your favorite player...Just thought you would like to know the correct spelling of your favorite player...
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Arizona, Arkansas, Auburn, Bama, Iowa, Nebraska, Ohio St, Oklahoma, Oregon,  South Carolina 

There are 10 that would eat the smurf's for lunch.

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