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Posted: 11/18/2009 11:59:40 AM
Here's your sec vs. acc comparison btw
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:00:17 PM

All time, the SEC leads the ACC with a record of 255-123-10. That is a .670 all-time winning percentage against the ACC. A more recent comparison over the last 11 years from 1998 to 2008 shows the SEC leads the ACC with a record of 45-36. That works out to a .540 winning percentage in the SEC’s favor.

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:02:58 PM

When looking at the all-time bowl records in head-to-head match-ups, we again see that the SEC holds the upper hand. Head-to-head bowl records were analyzed in two ways in order to provide the fairest overview possible.

The first criteria used in head-to-head matchups in bowl games was that wins and losses were only counted by teams who were currently members of the SEC or ACC conferences at the time of the bowl game. When using that criteria, the SEC boasts a record of 31-13 (.705) versus the ACC.

The second set of criteria used was to analyze head-to-head bowl matchups of teams currently affiliated with each conference. For instance, if Miami played an SEC team in a bowl game before becoming a member of the ACC, that bowl game result was counted and visa-versa for any SEC team. Following those parameters, the SEC again came out on top with a 43-27-2 (.614) record against ACC teams.

But there are other comparisons one can look at when comparing the SEC and ACC.

The all-time bowl records of both conferences were examined as well. In this examination, I again used the same two forms of criteria that were used to analyze head-to-head matchups in bowl games.

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:07:33 PM

First, let’s look at results when only using bowl game records from teams who were members of the SEC or ACC when the bowl game was played:

Now let’s see what their overall records look like when you take the teams that are currently affiliated with the ACC and SEC and compile their bowl game records, no matter if they were a member or not of the ACC or SEC at the time of the bowl game. An important thing to understand about this, is that this set of criteria allows the ACC to count the Miami, Florida State, Virginia Tech, and Boston College results — even when they were not members of the ACC.

So the ACC is really benefiting from the success of these teams when they were not members, especially Miami and FSU. This advantage is even more clear when you note that the ACC only participated in 166 bowl games when count those four teams, as opposed to 283 when they are counted. That is a staggering 117 game increase in bowl game appearances, only 49 games less than the combined bowl game appearance of all the other ACC teams.

So here are the results:

The evidence supports that the ACC and its fan base suffer from a massive inferiority complex. They want to run with the big dogs. They want to be a big dog.

The only problem with that aspiration is that it will always be just an aspiration until they “WIN” and, not only win, but “WIN” against the best.

Nothing better defines the ACC’s inability to compete with the best than their overall bowl record during the last two seasons and their overall Bowl Championship Series bowl game record.

The ACC’s bowl record during the 2007-2008 season was a miserable 2-6, while the SEC was 7-2. In the 2008-2009 season, the ACC choked yet again and recorded a 4-6 record while the SEC went 6-2. It should also be noted that the SEC won the BCS national championship during both of these seasons.

When it comes to the ACC and the BCS, the picture is even worse.

The BCS was created in an effort to ensure the top teams from the top conferences across the nation were playing each other at the end of the year to determine the national champion. It was also created to better define the top teams in the country each year.

Since the inception of the BCS, all the ACC has done is compile a 2-9 (.182) record and fell flat on its face when playing the big boys from across the country. Of the ACC’s two wins, Virginia Tech beat the “mighty” Cincinnati Bearcats last year and FSU beat Virginia Tech in 1999.

The SEC, on the other hand, holds an all-time BCS bowl record of 12-5 (.706). During that time, the SEC boasted five national championships to the ACC’s one title.

The SEC not only dominates on the field, but they dominate off the field, as well.

Who has the best and largest stadiums? The SEC!

Who has the largest fan base? The SEC!

Who has had more hall of fame quality coaches coaching for it in the past and today? The SEC!

Who has the higher combined athletic department revenue? The SEC!

Who has the bigger TV contract? The SEC!

Who has the best tailgating? The SEC!

Which conference has the most players on NFL rosters? The SEC!

Which conference boasts the most starters in the NFL as of 2008? The SEC!

Which conference has the richest tradition? The SEC!

And finally, which conference do all other conferences envy? That’s right, the SEC!

The debate? There is no debate. And there won’t be one until the ACC puts together a credible resume both on and off the field.

Right now the SEC is the cream of the crop, and the ACC is just a wannabe.

So if this rubs you the wrong way, ACC fans and institutions, and it is obvious that it does, then all you have to do is “WIN”. Win a lot. Win consistently. Win on and of the field. Win when it counts.

That is when there will be grounds for debate. Until then, the SEC is the winner in a landslide and until proven otherwise.

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:17:25 PM

wow-  thats dominate.  thats .82 more sec wins a year over an acc opponent.  Dominant, dominant, dominant.  i guess that means Utah has dominated alabama too.  go SEC.  utah 1-0 vs one of the best, if not the best, team in sec.  its all relative dude.  what about the other conferences? got any notes on those

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:19:35 PM
by the way- why dont you use another blog to pull your information
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:22:21 PM
i was just giving you some facts my man because you did state that the sec vs. acc record was shitty which in case was wrong my friend........and btw utah was awesome when they beat bama and another thing bama didnt even give a garbage about that bowl game because they thought they should have went to the national championship the players for bama didnt give one garbage about that game
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:25:04 PM

all i did was pull out some facts for your dumbass because your statement was wrong you dumb darn

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:25:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DAWGPRINT:

Anyone remember Hawaii two years ago??/  Best QB ever, blah blah blah, GA made them look like a high school team!

TCU is no different this year, their toughest opponent is Clemson, and they barely beat them!
Why doesn't TCU play their own in state teams like TTECH and TX? 
2nd rate team, with a 2nd rate schedule, shouldn't even be discussed for a title.

that Hawaii team was a joke... anyone with a clue knew Georgia was gonna blow them out... this TCU team has one of the top 5 defenses in CFB... nobody is blowing them out!  i promise you!

 

and the reason they don't play Texas or Tx Tech is because those teams won't schedule TCU...

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:27:51 PM
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they would lose 4, Tenn,LSU,Georgia,So.Carolina

what the darn are you smoking?  they would beat Tenn by 2 TDs EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY PLAYED THEM!  that team is a friggin joke!

Georgia???  gimme a break!  TCU beats them 9 out of 10 times...

LSU is the ONLY game on that schedule that has a chance... you know garbage about football, dude!

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:35:13 PM
I love the "They didn't give a garbage about the game" excuse towards an arguement....yeah, coaches and players really don't want to win...Give me a break...
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:35:32 PM
TCU is definitely good this year but how in the hell do some of you think they're so great all of a sudden of course they could beat a poopoo georgia and tenn. team this year but i guarantee you TCU could not beat florida, lsu, bama, auburn, or ole miss this year......LMAO
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:37:12 PM
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:37:46 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

what the darn are you smoking?  they would beat Tenn by 2 TDs EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY PLAYED THEM!  that team is a friggin joke!

Georgia???  gimme a break!  TCU beats them 9 out of 10 times...

LSU is the ONLY game on that schedule that has a chance... you know garbage about football, dude!

there is no way you could possibly say any of that I4B, until they have played...TCU will more than likely play the loser of the SEC ship game, and that team will beat TCU by 2 TDs....TCU beat a red hot Clemson team back when they werent red hot...that game didnt even carry any merit until 3 weeks ago. TCU doesnt stand a chance in the SEC....maybe a 7-5, possibly 8-4 this year...

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:38:39 PM
Yeah...Saban and all the Bama players came out after the game and said "We don't care about losing....We didn't give a garbage about the game."  Great point NOsaint
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:41:50 PM

there is no way you could possibly say any of that I4B, until they have played...TCU will more than likely play the loser of the SEC ship game, and that team will beat TCU by 2 TDs....TCU beat a red hot Clemson team back when they werent red hot...that game didnt even carry any merit until 3 weeks ago. TCU doesnt stand a chance in the SEC....maybe a 7-5, possibly 8-4 this year...

I'll take the action that TCU doesn't get beat by 14 against the SEC championship game loser...

 

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:42:04 PM

NO ONE, AND I MEAN NO ONE, IS DOMINATE OVER THE SEC, I REPEAT NO ONE.
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:42:42 PM
its not an excuse you box and i beg to differ my friend the players do not put forth a 100 % effort when they know they were hosed for a national championship bid i knew several players from that bama team and they all said the whole team didnt really give 2 shits about playing utah they were more worried wbout going to bourbon and harrahs for the weekend
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:43:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jwyoming:

I love the "They didn't give a garbage about the game" excuse towards an arguement....yeah, coaches and players really don't want to win...Give me a break...

you clearly have no idea what kind of person Nick Saban is...when he lost the SEC championship, he hung it up for the year...he gave his teams 2 weeks off after the loss to Florida last year. Utah practiced everyday. Saban in various press conferences was already talking about next year before they veen played Utah...they hung it up man, Utah was a good team last year, but they were not as good as Bama..

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:44:18 PM
well put bruce_willis........well put
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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:44:36 PM

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BWillis:  I'll take the action that TCU does not lose by 2 TD's to SEC Champ loser

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:46:43 PM

2009 Sugar Bowl Result

Utah 31    Alabama 17

ALABAMA WAS NOT BETTER THAN UTAH.....THEY LOST THE GAME

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:47:55 PM

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you know absolutely garbage about football now go back to washin weenies you cocksmoker

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:48:10 PM

J, u just wont ever learn will you? Its like trying to explain physics to a 5 year old....again, im sorry you are so bitter...

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Posted: 11/18/2009 12:49:03 PM

I know the scoreboard

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