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#1 Posted: 11/3/2009 12:27:14 PM I had to start a thread about this after hearing everyone tell me how unfair it will be to them if they go undefeated and don't get a shot at the national title.
Boise St. deserves NOTHING when they continue to schedule "strategically"
Does everyone understand that Boise St. has publicly come out and stated that they schedule "strategically."
This means that they schedule nothing but cupcakes every season with maybe one tough OOC game (Oregon). It looks better for them this year because of the strength of Oregon but give me a fucking break.
The BCS rewards teams/programs that take on the biggest challenges throughout the season. That is why Oklahoma got in last year over Texas, because they actually went out and scheduled TCU and Cincinnati OOC.
Boise St. plays in the shit of all shit conferences. They know that 9-10 they will go undefeated and thus force the BCS to put them in one of the games. This is absolute fucking bullshit.
If Boise wants a chance to play for the title do what BYU did, schedule Florida St. and Oklahoma OOC. Don't give me this shit about having one tough team on your schedule and then have the right to play for footballs biggest championship.
Until they stop "strategically" scheduling I don't want to hear a fucking peep from this program. Do you know how many teams in power conferences would run through their schedule undefeated? In all honesty Purdue would be a power team in that conference.
Yet every year we seem to hear the same shit from this Boise program...and you know what...NO ONE IS LISTENING.
I don't expect Boise to schedule USC and Florida every year...what i do expect is for them to take part in 2 big OOC games. 1 against a top 10 team on the road and the other can be any top 25 team for a home and home.
Until then Boise St. alone with all their fans need to shut the fuck up...or man up and actually schedule like a title team if you want to be one. |
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#2 Posted: 11/3/2009 12:32:46 PM  |
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#3 Posted: 11/3/2009 12:39:48 PM They should be forced to move to a new conference. Either the Pac-10 or atleast the Mountain West. Beating the piss out of the WAC every year doesn't give them any right to a title game. Thats like me going to the local elementary school, pummeling all of the third graders, and demanding that I get a shot at the Heavyweight title. Give me a break
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#4 Posted: 11/3/2009 12:42:14 PM Well put....
I think Boise is still a good team tho, but u are right that its not fair to have a cupcake schedule like they always do |
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#5 Posted: 11/3/2009 12:46:12 PM It's all been hyped up since the Statue of Liberty, and Hook/Ladder plays vs. OKL in the Fiesta....

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#6 Posted: 11/3/2009 1:21:11 PM Agree. Fucking man up Boise. We all got to see them pull over the upset against that OU team that had zero motivation, but this year they are gonna get smacked against whoever they play in the bowl.
Can you imagine Boise in the SEC, lol. I would love to see OSU play them on their pussy blue turf. Man up Boise. |
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#7 Posted: 11/3/2009 1:26:42 PM The schedule is a Joke ....
with TCU's schedule they would lose 2+ Games |
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#8 Posted: 11/3/2009 1:37:25 PM Boise state would be the third or fourth best team in the Mountain West
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#9 Posted: 11/3/2009 1:37:33 PM yes i agree if byu was to go undefeated they would disserve a shot not boise tho ive been saying this all year, it has nothing to do with how they play but rather who they play |
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#10 Posted: 11/3/2009 1:43:20 PM shut the fuck up they bitch slapped oregon and take care of fuckn business. |
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#11 Posted: 11/3/2009 1:51:32 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by faasavalu22:
shut the fuck up they bitch slapped oregon and take care of fuckn business.
they beat Oregon by 9 points, and it was the first game of the year...play Oregon now and they will bitch slap the shit out of Boise by at least 2 TDs....i have been saying this all season. Boise has the most joke of a schedule ever....one ranked team all season? if they make it to a BCS game, they will lose, and i am willing to put my money where my mouth is on that one....I am not saying that they are not a decent team, but they are nowhere near a team that deserves to be in the top 10......
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#12 Posted: 11/3/2009 1:58:01 PM The Sun Belt & MAC are worse confs. but that's a whole 'nother subject.
I don't see where they're any worse than a lot of teams in the east...........especially the B10 & SEC.........& please, don't give the old excuse that "their conf schedules are already tough enough". Every team in a BCS conf. has to go through the wringer yet some teams, like USC & Washington, actually go out & schedule real opponents.
If teams like Alabama or Oklahoma could take of of biz when facing these types of opponents there would be a lot less chance of us having these conversations.  |
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#13 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:07:25 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by faasavalu22: shut the fuck up they bitch slapped oregon and take care of fuckn business.
I played football with a bunch of third graders today...and man did I take care of business...I'm thinking I deserve a shot at making an NFL squad since I did so well against those tough third graders...
...same logic. |
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#14 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:11:05 PM isnt the schedule already made up like 10 years ago? thats what i heard from someone.
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#15 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:14:35 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Jim_Tressel:
I played football with a bunch of third graders today...and man did I take care of business...I'm thinking I deserve a shot at making an NFL squad since I did so well against those tough third graders...
...same logic.

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#16 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:18:40 PM Why does a game with BIG 10 need to be on road? I think buckeyes on smurf turf sounds better to me? BSU pays for their scheduling every year; so they get what they deserve in that area.
BUT; I don't hear any BIG 10 coaches saying that they wanna play em either????? It's easy to criticize; but deep down, I don't think that any BIG10 coach wants to take that risk... Buckeyes scheduled NM State, they could have gotten BSU if they would do a home and away I am sure.....
Critics would not be satisfied if BSU scheduled TWO tougher occ games.... then if they still won; they would want THREE.....
Until top teams speak out publicly that they want a shot at BSU, which is NOT going to happen...... this is just mental masturbation. A playoff is the real solution. |
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#17 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:32:45 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Ch33z:
isnt the schedule already made up like 10 years ago? thats what i heard from someone.
Usually 3-4 years, Boise St. has been bitching for well over 5 years. |
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#18 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:35:13 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Bruce_Willis:
they beat Oregon by 9 points, and it was the first game of the year...play Oregon now and they will bitch slap the shit out of Boise by at least 2 TDs....i have been saying this all season. Boise has the most joke of a schedule ever....one ranked team all season? if they make it to a BCS game, they will lose, and i am willing to put my money where my mouth is on that one....I am not saying that they are not a decent team, but they are nowhere near a team that deserves to be in the top 10......
god i wish we had playoffs 
Why would we suppose Oregon would "bitch-slap" them now?
Your argument sums up the problem schools like Boise, TCU, Utah or whoever has and it basically boils down to this....you think Oregon is better than Boise St........even though Boise defeated them on the field this season it still isn't enough....Boise played Oregon and won. They don't have to play them again. If Oregon wanted to "bitch-slap" Boise they had their chance and failed miserably. Why do you still assume Oregon is better? It just doesn't make sense.
Look, Boise probably could stand to schedule OOC better. But like somebody said earlier in this thread, I don't think too many schools are beating down Boise State's door to play home and home with them.....what's in it for them? All that said, Boise does own a win over a top 10 school this season, which is more than some schools will be able to say at the end of the year regardless of the conference they play in.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter........basically if you aren't ranked in the preseason top 10 you are basically not going to play for a national championship, regardless of what you accomplish during the season. If you are ranked pre-season top 10 you can overcome all sorts of ills and people will be happy to apologize for your losses/mistakes because you were "supposed" to be good...the college football system really sucks in my opinion. |
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#19 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:35:38 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by AtlFader: Why does a game with BIG 10 need to be on road? I think buckeyes on smurf turf sounds better to me? BSU pays for their scheduling every year; so they get what they deserve in that area.
BUT; I don't hear any BIG 10 coaches saying that they wanna play em either????? It's easy to criticize; but deep down, I don't think that any BIG10 coach wants to take that risk... Buckeyes scheduled NM State, they could have gotten BSU if they would do a home and away I am sure.....
Critics would not be satisfied if BSU scheduled TWO tougher occ games.... then if they still won; they would want THREE.....
Until top teams speak out publicly that they want a shot at BSU, which is NOT going to happen...... this is just mental masturbation. A playoff is the real solution.
First I didn't say it needed to be a Big 10 team, I said it needed to be against a top 10 powerhouse.
The reason it needs to be on the road is because no big power is going to agree to play them on the road. What does USC/Florida/OSU have to gain from going there?
However I do think one of those schools would agree to play Boise as long as they could play them at home without a promise of a return game. |
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#20 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:43:02 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by mmac66:
Why would we suppose Oregon would "bitch-slap" them now?
Your argument sums up the problem schools like Boise, TCU, Utah or whoever has and it basically boils down to this....you think Oregon is better than Boise St........even though Boise defeated them on the field this season it still isn't enough....Boise played Oregon and won. They don't have to play them again. If Oregon wanted to "bitch-slap" Boise they had their chance and failed miserably. Why do you still assume Oregon is better? It just doesn't make sense.
Look, Boise probably could stand to schedule OOC better. But like somebody said earlier in this thread, I don't think too many schools are beating down Boise State's door to play home and home with them.....what's in it for them? All that said, Boise does own a win over a top 10 school this season, which is more than some schools will be able to say at the end of the year regardless of the conference they play in.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter........basically if you aren't ranked in the preseason top 10 you are basically not going to play for a national championship, regardless of what you accomplish during the season. If you are ranked pre-season top 10 you can overcome all sorts of ills and people will be happy to apologize for your losses/mistakes because you were "supposed" to be good...the college football system really sucks in my opinion.
That is true, but Boise St. is not in the position to demand a home and home...they are in the position to go on the road and prove they deserve to be in the National Title game.
Otherwise they will be kept out of the picture...and rightly so.
Boise St. knows that they will be the cream of their conference by the biggest margin for a LONG time. Get the wheels in motion and start making a more difficult schedule.
Start making offers to the top programs so that when they turn you down you can go public and say that they won't play you. Keep scheduling a top 25 team (Oregon) and if a top 10 won't agree then schedule another top 25 team (Clemson/Nebraska/Cincinnati/BYU/TCU/UCLA/ARIZONA/ARIZONA ST./CAL)
If Boise St. had 2 games against any of those teams, and ran the table, they would have a legit shot to go to the national title. I'm not asking them to switch conferences, I'm just asking that they schedule like a national title team if they want to be a national title team. If they don't then they will continue to be treated like the little brother that they are. |
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#21 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:44:10 PM If I were AD of BSU it would be simple; home and away or no deal..... and that probably IS the problem getting top teams to play them; they can make more money with a lot less risk playing W Kentucky at home than BSU on smurf turf... so IMHO it's the TOP RANKED TEAMS that are SCARED to play them |
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#22 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:48:11 PM I have to pipe in here, and after having Nevada tickets for 20 years, here is what I think. First of all, teams are afraid to play Boise State for the same reason you state above. Look at Texas schedule this year, are you kidding me? Also, the Big 12 is not that great of a conference anymore. I would love to see Boise State and TCU play Texas, Alabama and Florida, but they won't play them in non-conference games, because Texas, Florida, and Alabama have nothing to gain and everything to loose. By the way, who was in Florida's non-conference schedule? |
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#23 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:49:54 PM "The BCS rewards teams/programs that take on the biggest challenges throughout the season."
Like Florida and their MONSTER OOC schedule, coach?

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#24 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:50:42 PM All BSU AD needs to do is call press conference, challenging the top 20 teams BY NAME to play them; home and away.... call that press conference every month if you need to. start reading down the list.. hey teamx why won't you play us? hey teamy why won't you play us? If you won't play us; then stop bitching about our schedule, we are undefeated damn near every year, so until you are ready to play us; you have no right to criticise us. |
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#25 Posted: 11/3/2009 2:52:48 PM I thought the whole point of them talking about this "Strategic Scheduling" was to setup for next season. I believe Boise took it light this year for a reason to prepare this young team who is returning everyone but 5 players. I said 5 players! I think there whole point was not looking at a BCS this season but next season from my understanding they are going to put there toughest schedule ever together because they strongly believe with the group of players they have and coming in is going to get them that BCS title bid.
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