I was thinkin, lets say I was to take every single game this weekend where the consensus on the pick itself was 33% or less prior to kickoff.....what % of games do you think i would win? and what about if I were to put 2 units (double up) on the plays that were less than 25%?????
the plays for 1 unit would be as of right now: Army, Indiana, BG, UAB, Wake, Clemson, Akron, SanDiego St, SMU, ASU, Rice (ewwww)
the plays for 2 units would be: Virginia, Baylor, Vandy and UL Monroe
you know what....think im gonna do it!
GL to all u followers this weekend
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I was thinkin, lets say I was to take every single game this weekend where the consensus on the pick itself was 33% or less prior to kickoff.....what % of games do you think i would win? and what about if I were to put 2 units (double up) on the plays that were less than 25%?????
the plays for 1 unit would be as of right now: Army, Indiana, BG, UAB, Wake, Clemson, Akron, SanDiego St, SMU, ASU, Rice (ewwww)
the plays for 2 units would be: Virginia, Baylor, Vandy and UL Monroe
weasie ive actually had some hot spells in the past inadvertaly having the lower consensus plays hit. I actually think they hit quite often. Remember vegas usually wins. i have a friend who has been doing similiar in nfl and cashed 4-1 one week 5-1 another week 6-0 again then 2-6 and 1-5 ??? so im unsure where to go with that. I think there is something here i just dont know when the right time would be. i personally love when im on the right side of a play that the majority of peeps are against and i hit. I think there are many more factors to it though bro.
for intstance the "public" more often then not are week to week so they will see a team do very well and seem another team do poorly and they make their next weeks plays based upon what they saw the week prior. We all know this is dangerous especially as oddsmakers tighten the number to fit these situations.
example here will be georgia tech playing lights out against virginia tech last week thepublic consensus is 76% on GT and 24% on the cavs. Strong money im thinking from "public "action and not so much sharp $ is pounding in GT also driving line up to -5,5.
Lets not forget Virginia is 8-0 vs GT since 1992 and 7-1 vs GT since then THAT has to mean something. I like virginia more and more i look at this game and i feel most peeps "public" are just playing off what they saw last week.Im not competely sold on ur system but i think virginia fits in here perfect with a very low consensus just my opinion
gl buddy
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weasie ive actually had some hot spells in the past inadvertaly having the lower consensus plays hit. I actually think they hit quite often. Remember vegas usually wins. i have a friend who has been doing similiar in nfl and cashed 4-1 one week 5-1 another week 6-0 again then 2-6 and 1-5 ??? so im unsure where to go with that. I think there is something here i just dont know when the right time would be. i personally love when im on the right side of a play that the majority of peeps are against and i hit. I think there are many more factors to it though bro.
for intstance the "public" more often then not are week to week so they will see a team do very well and seem another team do poorly and they make their next weeks plays based upon what they saw the week prior. We all know this is dangerous especially as oddsmakers tighten the number to fit these situations.
example here will be georgia tech playing lights out against virginia tech last week thepublic consensus is 76% on GT and 24% on the cavs. Strong money im thinking from "public "action and not so much sharp $ is pounding in GT also driving line up to -5,5.
Lets not forget Virginia is 8-0 vs GT since 1992 and 7-1 vs GT since then THAT has to mean something. I like virginia more and more i look at this game and i feel most peeps "public" are just playing off what they saw last week.Im not competely sold on ur system but i think virginia fits in here perfect with a very low consensus just my opinion
UNC does scoreandodds.com have consensus %'s on it? never used it before....GREAT idea games like this UTEP/Tulsa game make me wanna do this so bad because i think it DOES matter, esp when u see a lopsided play and the line not budging or even going OPPOSITE....this game left such a bad taste in my mouth that im just willing to try these and show that it CAN work
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UNC does scoreandodds.com have consensus %'s on it? never used it before....GREAT idea games like this UTEP/Tulsa game make me wanna do this so bad because i think it DOES matter, esp when u see a lopsided play and the line not budging or even going OPPOSITE....this game left such a bad taste in my mouth that im just willing to try these and show that it CAN work
You'll go broke betting that way. I've tried to explain to people that any consensus numbers you see on any site are only going to be the number of wagers placed on a particular team. It does not reflect the amount of money being wagered. Therefore, it is not possible to determine which side Vegas is on.
You will win some games betting that way but you'll lose a lot more. You'll have much more success if you narrow it down to high profile games with lots of volume and point spreads of 3 or less.
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You'll go broke betting that way. I've tried to explain to people that any consensus numbers you see on any site are only going to be the number of wagers placed on a particular team. It does not reflect the amount of money being wagered. Therefore, it is not possible to determine which side Vegas is on.
You will win some games betting that way but you'll lose a lot more. You'll have much more success if you narrow it down to high profile games with lots of volume and point spreads of 3 or less.
golfguru appreciate the info, will keep it in mind! what you are suggesting is to look at tonites game at UNC, however, not a huge disparity between consensus here, so i will go with my gut on this one....btw, whats ur handicap? gimme 4 a side and we got a match
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golfguru appreciate the info, will keep it in mind! what you are suggesting is to look at tonites game at UNC, however, not a huge disparity between consensus here, so i will go with my gut on this one....btw, whats ur handicap? gimme 4 a side and we got a match
LBCWeasie Always looking for golf gamblers in Florida looking for a fair game If you have a card and are in the area come play standard game 100 dollars a Nassau auto 2dn press.Any junk negotiated.
A few years ago I bet against every game where the consensus was 68% I picked that number out of the hat because I had lost 4 plays in a row that were exactly that percentage I bet the next 30 games againsnt the 68% consensus, ended up 18-12 when I got bored and lost 4 in a row and figured it was time to end the experiment. BOL though in whatever way you go.
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LBCWeasie Always looking for golf gamblers in Florida looking for a fair game If you have a card and are in the area come play standard game 100 dollars a Nassau auto 2dn press.Any junk negotiated.
A few years ago I bet against every game where the consensus was 68% I picked that number out of the hat because I had lost 4 plays in a row that were exactly that percentage I bet the next 30 games againsnt the 68% consensus, ended up 18-12 when I got bored and lost 4 in a row and figured it was time to end the experiment. BOL though in whatever way you go.
Question to anyone. I went to scores and odds and look at the sides. Mich st. is getting 12% and Iowa is getting 88%. The line went from +2 Mich. St. to a pick em. Is the 88% the total dollar amount on a side or is is it per transaction on each side. The only way I see the line going down with 88% on the opposite team is a bunch of guys putting small bets on Iowa while the heavy bets are going on Mich. State. Anyone have input?
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Question to anyone. I went to scores and odds and look at the sides. Mich st. is getting 12% and Iowa is getting 88%. The line went from +2 Mich. St. to a pick em. Is the 88% the total dollar amount on a side or is is it per transaction on each side. The only way I see the line going down with 88% on the opposite team is a bunch of guys putting small bets on Iowa while the heavy bets are going on Mich. State. Anyone have input?
bluefin i reside in upstate new york but my cousins live in port st lucie and stuart and both are teaching pros, i played D-1 golf at a tiny school in NY called Siena (Siena mens Bball top 20 this year preseason rank)....after graduating my game went to shit and wasnt playing much at all, im ALWAYS down for action on the course, there is NO other reason to play (degenerate i am)
where abouts you located in fla? you ever play foxclub? turtle creek?
Mr803 I am def on these picks, wish baylor still had their QB but if im gonna play the system, i need to stick to my guns...btw, this is pre-kickoff percentages so the plays above may change before gametime
pfotie these percentages are based on picks made on the site alone and do not reflect dollar amounts, the smart money must be coming in on Mich St here
FeedMe i started dying when i saw you on UL Monroe, for some dumb reason, this game jumped out at me when i saw it on monday (and i dont know a thing about these conferences or care to learn more, im just a degenerate)BOL
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bluefin i reside in upstate new york but my cousins live in port st lucie and stuart and both are teaching pros, i played D-1 golf at a tiny school in NY called Siena (Siena mens Bball top 20 this year preseason rank)....after graduating my game went to shit and wasnt playing much at all, im ALWAYS down for action on the course, there is NO other reason to play (degenerate i am)
where abouts you located in fla? you ever play foxclub? turtle creek?
Mr803 I am def on these picks, wish baylor still had their QB but if im gonna play the system, i need to stick to my guns...btw, this is pre-kickoff percentages so the plays above may change before gametime
pfotie these percentages are based on picks made on the site alone and do not reflect dollar amounts, the smart money must be coming in on Mich St here
FeedMe i started dying when i saw you on UL Monroe, for some dumb reason, this game jumped out at me when i saw it on monday (and i dont know a thing about these conferences or care to learn more, im just a degenerate)BOL
LBC I actually track this based off wagerline closing #'s.
Home Team 75%+ 4-1 (you would be 1-4)
Home Team 67.5% to 75%+ 18-11 (you would have gone 22-18)
Road Team 75%+ 3-5 (you would be 5-3)
Road Team 67.5% to 75% 13-11 (you would be 11-13)
So as you can see YTD you would be 39-38 and your 2 unit games would have gone 6-7. The best thing to do with the consensus picks is to watch the line movement rather than just bet because of the %. Hope this helps.
FYI last year
Home teams 70%+ went 17-17
Road Teams 70%+ went 7-7
GL
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LBC I actually track this based off wagerline closing #'s.
Home Team 75%+ 4-1 (you would be 1-4)
Home Team 67.5% to 75%+ 18-11 (you would have gone 22-18)
Road Team 75%+ 3-5 (you would be 5-3)
Road Team 67.5% to 75% 13-11 (you would be 11-13)
So as you can see YTD you would be 39-38 and your 2 unit games would have gone 6-7. The best thing to do with the consensus picks is to watch the line movement rather than just bet because of the %. Hope this helps.
faderglad to see ya buddy, i like the old avatar with the panites at the ankles
whipthanks for doin the leg work for me homie, saved me alot of trouble fo sho....im gonna run with it this week cuz i said i would and am a man of my word (sometimes) but you are DEF right that the way to track is the higher percentage WITH reverse movement is the way to play these
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faderglad to see ya buddy, i like the old avatar with the panites at the ankles
whipthanks for doin the leg work for me homie, saved me alot of trouble fo sho....im gonna run with it this week cuz i said i would and am a man of my word (sometimes) but you are DEF right that the way to track is the higher percentage WITH reverse movement is the way to play these
uncforever -- i love that scoresandodds website especially the reports section....
weasie i have been following the power rankings on that scoresand odds also---another good tool to hanicap , goes along with whatcya got here kinda. you will see many matchups where the power ranking are heavy for 1 team but because of smoke and mirrors and previous week game lines are weird and the publics concensus is heavy on the wrong team
I am very curious to how this will work out for you this weekend, i still think you should single some out and not do it blindly on all of them. btw ____ go yanks brutha
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very very intersting
weasie
uncforever -- i love that scoresandodds website especially the reports section....
weasie i have been following the power rankings on that scoresand odds also---another good tool to hanicap , goes along with whatcya got here kinda. you will see many matchups where the power ranking are heavy for 1 team but because of smoke and mirrors and previous week game lines are weird and the publics concensus is heavy on the wrong team
I am very curious to how this will work out for you this weekend, i still think you should single some out and not do it blindly on all of them. btw ____ go yanks brutha
FIRST play of the system will be tonite!!! Taking Army +11 (10.5 on covers) at 33% consensus....they JUST squeak into the system at the 33% mark, so here i goes!!!
ARMY +11 (1 Unit)
wish me luck boys, could be in for a looooong weekend
next on tap looks to be:
Indiana (+4.5, 32%)
BG was a play but the consensus has moved up
Virginia (+5.5, 26%....although it is out of the 25% or under category i may still put 2 units on this)
UAB (+7, 33%)
Baylor (+9.5, 24%....2 units)
That does it for the early games ladies and germs, unless these %'s change before gametime, these will be the plays (hope BG moves into the 33% or lower range cuz i like them anyways)
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FIRST play of the system will be tonite!!! Taking Army +11 (10.5 on covers) at 33% consensus....they JUST squeak into the system at the 33% mark, so here i goes!!!
ARMY +11 (1 Unit)
wish me luck boys, could be in for a looooong weekend
next on tap looks to be:
Indiana (+4.5, 32%)
BG was a play but the consensus has moved up
Virginia (+5.5, 26%....although it is out of the 25% or under category i may still put 2 units on this)
UAB (+7, 33%)
Baylor (+9.5, 24%....2 units)
That does it for the early games ladies and germs, unless these %'s change before gametime, these will be the plays (hope BG moves into the 33% or lower range cuz i like them anyways)
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