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MrHeadache's Thursday Night Football...Troy vs. Bowling Green

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Troy vs. Bowling Green

Dave Clawson became the 17th head football coach at Bowling Green State University on Dec. 12, 2008. Clawson brings 20 years of coaching experience, including nine years of head coaching experience.  BGSU head football coach Dave Clawson is the 12th youngest coach in the country and third youngest in the Mid-American Conference behind Temple’s Al Golden and Central Michigan’s Butch Jones.  Dave Clawson replaces Gregg Brandon who went 44-30 in six years at the helm of the Falcon program.  In a very limited time Clawson has hired eight new assistant coaches, a new director of football operations, two new graduate assistant coaches and signed 24 players to National Letters of Intent. Not bad, considering he has only been at Bowling Green for 266 days. First year Falcon head coaches have not lost a season opener since Harry Ockerman and the Falcons lost 12-0 in 1935.  The Falcons will be looking to extend their 6 straight home openers inside Doyt Perry Stadium. This will be the first-ever meeting between BGSU and Troy. The Falcons do have some familiarity with the Sun Belt Conference, having played Western Kentucky (W, 41-21) in 2007 and Florida International (W, 33-28) in 2006.  Quarterback development and pro production have been Clawson staples. Eight times in his 14 years as either an offensive coordinator or head coach, Clawson’s quarterbacks earned all-conference honors. In addition, NFL regulars such as two-time 1,000-yard rusher Brian Westbrook (Eagles), receiver Brian Finneran (Falcons), tailbacks Rabih Abdullah (Buccaneers, Bears and Patriots) and Tim Hightower (Cardinals), quarterbacks Stacey Tutt (Jets) and Kevin Eakin (Bills), and defensive lineman Aki Jones (Redskins) played for Clawson.  Not bad, considering the weapons Clawson will be working with on Offense with the Falcons. 

 

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Dave Clawson became the 17th head football coach at Bowling Green State University on Dec. 12, 2008. Clawson brings 20 years of coaching experience, including nine years of head coaching experience.  BGSU head football coach Dave Clawson is the 12th youngest coach in the country and third youngest in the Mid-American Conference behind Temple’s Al Golden and Central Michigan’s Butch Jones.  Dave Clawson replaces Gregg Brandon who went 44-30 in six years at the helm of the Falcon program.  In a very limited time Clawson has hired eight new assistant coaches, a new director of football operations, two new graduate assistant coaches and signed 24 players to National Letters of Intent. Not bad, considering he has only been at Bowling Green for 266 days. First year Falcon head coaches have not lost a season opener since Harry Ockerman and the Falcons lost 12-0 in 1935.  The Falcons will be looking to extend their 6 straight home openers inside Doyt Perry Stadium. This will be the first-ever meeting between BGSU and Troy. The Falcons do have some familiarity with the Sun Belt Conference, having played Western Kentucky (W, 41-21) in 2007 and Florida International (W, 33-28) in 2006.  Quarterback development and pro production have been Clawson staples. Eight times in his 14 years as either an offensive coordinator or head coach, Clawson’s quarterbacks earned all-conference honors. In addition, NFL regulars such as two-time 1,000-yard rusher Brian Westbrook (Eagles), receiver Brian Finneran (Falcons), tailbacks Rabih Abdullah (Buccaneers, Bears and Patriots) and Tim Hightower (Cardinals), quarterbacks Stacey Tutt (Jets) and Kevin Eakin (Bills), and defensive lineman Aki Jones (Redskins) played for Clawson.  Not bad, considering the weapons Clawson will be working with on Offense with the Falcons. 

 

 
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 A Look at the Falcon Offense   
Senior quarterback Tyler Sheehan will lead the Falcon offense that averaged 27.7 points per game in 2008. Sheehan, who was an All-MAC performer as a sophomore (2007), threw for 2,610 yards and 20 touchdowns this past season. He also completed 66.8 percent of his passes, second-best in school history and added a team-high seven rushing touchdowns.  He will be facing a new defensive secondary for the Troy Trojans.  For Troy on the defensive side of the ball, the front seven will lead the way as the Trojans work to rebuild a secondary that lost four veteran players. Of the front seven, five were starters in 2008. The Trojan secondary will feature four new starters in 2009.  This is going to be a huge edge for Sheehan and the Falcons, who have a handful of other veterans returning on Offense.  When Sheehan decides to drop back and pass he will have a handful of receivers to throw to including seniors Freddie Barnes (142 career receptions) and tight end Jimmy Scheidler (seven touchdowns in 2008). Other pass catchers expected to play a large role in 2009 include Adrian Hodges, Chris Wright, Tyrone Pronty and junior college transfer Kamar Jorden.  Protecting Sheehan will be three Falcons that started all 12 games in 2008 and a pair of Falcons that will be seeing starts for the first time in their Falcon careers. Left guard Shane Steffy has 24 career starts, left tackle Brady Minturn has 16 starts and sophomore center Ben Bojicic started all 12 games last season. Along the right side will be Scott Albert (RG) and Tyler Donahue (RT), both making their first career starts versus Troy.  Lining up in the backfield will be a pair of veteran running backs in Chris Bullock and Willie Geter. Bullock, who has 1,434 career rushing yards, ranks 19th in school history and is just 600 yards away from cracking the top-10 list in career rushing yards. Geter, a junior from Miami, Fla., has 733 yards in two seasons with the Orange and Brown, while averaging 6.3 yards per carry.  Overall on Offense, the Falcons will start 8 Seniors, 2 Juniors, and only 1 sophomore.

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Senior quarterback Tyler Sheehan will lead the Falcon offense that averaged 27.7 points per game in 2008. Sheehan, who was an All-MAC performer as a sophomore (2007), threw for 2,610 yards and 20 touchdowns this past season. He also completed 66.8 percent of his passes, second-best in school history and added a team-high seven rushing touchdowns.  He will be facing a new defensive secondary for the Troy Trojans.  For Troy on the defensive side of the ball, the front seven will lead the way as the Trojans work to rebuild a secondary that lost four veteran players. Of the front seven, five were starters in 2008. The Trojan secondary will feature four new starters in 2009.  This is going to be a huge edge for Sheehan and the Falcons, who have a handful of other veterans returning on Offense.  When Sheehan decides to drop back and pass he will have a handful of receivers to throw to including seniors Freddie Barnes (142 career receptions) and tight end Jimmy Scheidler (seven touchdowns in 2008). Other pass catchers expected to play a large role in 2009 include Adrian Hodges, Chris Wright, Tyrone Pronty and junior college transfer Kamar Jorden.  Protecting Sheehan will be three Falcons that started all 12 games in 2008 and a pair of Falcons that will be seeing starts for the first time in their Falcon careers. Left guard Shane Steffy has 24 career starts, left tackle Brady Minturn has 16 starts and sophomore center Ben Bojicic started all 12 games last season. Along the right side will be Scott Albert (RG) and Tyler Donahue (RT), both making their first career starts versus Troy.  Lining up in the backfield will be a pair of veteran running backs in Chris Bullock and Willie Geter. Bullock, who has 1,434 career rushing yards, ranks 19th in school history and is just 600 yards away from cracking the top-10 list in career rushing yards. Geter, a junior from Miami, Fla., has 733 yards in two seasons with the Orange and Brown, while averaging 6.3 yards per carry.  Overall on Offense, the Falcons will start 8 Seniors, 2 Juniors, and only 1 sophomore.

 
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A Look at the Falcon Defense
The only concern is the Falcons return just three defensive starters from a defense that finished fourth in the MAC in points (23.2) and yards allowed (343.4) in 2008. Up front they have to find a way to replace all four starters.  Angelo Magnone (five quarterback hurries), Andrew Johnson (3.0 sacks) and Kevin Alvarado (16 tackles) along with a handful of other defensive lineman will be asked to fill the void.  There are some players upfront that have some experience, which is better than nothing.  At linebacker only Jerett Sanderson (68 tackles, two INTs) returns as a starter from 2008, but Cody Basler saw significant action last season, including one week versus Wyoming where he was named MAC East Defensive Player of the Week after recording six tackles a fumble recovery and an interception. Senior James Schneider, who had six tackles last season, looks to be the other starting linebacker heading into 2009.  Linebacker play should be pretty solid for the Falcons and they have some solid players here.  At the cornerback position, the Falcons will be playing two guys that have zero combined starts, while the Falcon safeties have played together most of their career, which helps significantly. Senior Roger Williams, who has made a name for him as a kick returner, will begin his first year as a starting corner and will be joined by sophomore Adrien Spencer, who will also be making his first career start versus Troy.  Having Roger Williams as one starter at CB is also a plus, and not a real hurt to their defense, especially since he is a complete athlete. The safeties, on the other hand, have 55 combined starts between the two of them, led by senior Jahmal Brown. Brown has started each of the last 35 games, while fellow classmate P.J. Mahone has been beside him in each of the last 20 contests.  Overall on Defense, the Falcons will start 7 Seniors, 2 Juniors, and only 2 sophomores.

 

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The only concern is the Falcons return just three defensive starters from a defense that finished fourth in the MAC in points (23.2) and yards allowed (343.4) in 2008. Up front they have to find a way to replace all four starters.  Angelo Magnone (five quarterback hurries), Andrew Johnson (3.0 sacks) and Kevin Alvarado (16 tackles) along with a handful of other defensive lineman will be asked to fill the void.  There are some players upfront that have some experience, which is better than nothing.  At linebacker only Jerett Sanderson (68 tackles, two INTs) returns as a starter from 2008, but Cody Basler saw significant action last season, including one week versus Wyoming where he was named MAC East Defensive Player of the Week after recording six tackles a fumble recovery and an interception. Senior James Schneider, who had six tackles last season, looks to be the other starting linebacker heading into 2009.  Linebacker play should be pretty solid for the Falcons and they have some solid players here.  At the cornerback position, the Falcons will be playing two guys that have zero combined starts, while the Falcon safeties have played together most of their career, which helps significantly. Senior Roger Williams, who has made a name for him as a kick returner, will begin his first year as a starting corner and will be joined by sophomore Adrien Spencer, who will also be making his first career start versus Troy.  Having Roger Williams as one starter at CB is also a plus, and not a real hurt to their defense, especially since he is a complete athlete. The safeties, on the other hand, have 55 combined starts between the two of them, led by senior Jahmal Brown. Brown has started each of the last 35 games, while fellow classmate P.J. Mahone has been beside him in each of the last 20 contests.  Overall on Defense, the Falcons will start 7 Seniors, 2 Juniors, and only 2 sophomores.

 

 
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Look for Coach Clawson to have his boys ready for the Home opener, as he tries to set the tone for the year.  Clawson will also like to get his first win under his belt at Bowling Green as his team will travel and play Missouri and Marshall before they return home and play their again.  Also, look for Clawson to stress necessary improvement for the Falcons when playing at home as they went 1-4 their last year.  No doubt this will be a tough game for the Falcons as they play host to the defending Sun Belt Conference Champions Troy.  I like the fact that there is a lot of new energy with Clawson, and he has a lot of success offensively, which is only going to help Sheenan and a relatively veteran offense become even better.  7 points at home with this type of QB is too much.  Let’s roll with the Falcons at home here.  After all, BG is 8-0 in home openers with a new head coach at the helm….

 

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Look for Coach Clawson to have his boys ready for the Home opener, as he tries to set the tone for the year.  Clawson will also like to get his first win under his belt at Bowling Green as his team will travel and play Missouri and Marshall before they return home and play their again.  Also, look for Clawson to stress necessary improvement for the Falcons when playing at home as they went 1-4 their last year.  No doubt this will be a tough game for the Falcons as they play host to the defending Sun Belt Conference Champions Troy.  I like the fact that there is a lot of new energy with Clawson, and he has a lot of success offensively, which is only going to help Sheenan and a relatively veteran offense become even better.  7 points at home with this type of QB is too much.  Let’s roll with the Falcons at home here.  After all, BG is 8-0 in home openers with a new head coach at the helm….

 

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Did you do this all yourself? If you did, I must say, quite impressive! I am a Falcon alumn and can definitely see them winning or coming close to winning. Kind of scared now about the game and may stay away as I am involved in some way with this school- I hate to bet against/for teams I root for or went to school at.
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Did you do this all yourself? If you did, I must say, quite impressive! I am a Falcon alumn and can definitely see them winning or coming close to winning. Kind of scared now about the game and may stay away as I am involved in some way with this school- I hate to bet against/for teams I root for or went to school at.
 
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P.S. Roger Williams is a damn good athlete for sure. I have no idea what this team could do tomorrow night. Could see them getting killed or pulling off a minor upset. The Doyt will sure be packed and LOUD.
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P.S. Roger Williams is a damn good athlete for sure. I have no idea what this team could do tomorrow night. Could see them getting killed or pulling off a minor upset. The Doyt will sure be packed and LOUD.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BuffBillieve:

Did you do this all yourself? If you did, I must say, quite impressive! I am a Falcon alumn and can definitely see them winning or coming close to winning. Kind of scared now about the game and may stay away as I am involved in some way with this school- I hate to bet against/for teams I root for or went to school at.

Thanks...too many points here...I will take the 7 at home and I really think that the Falcons make this a close game...I see them winning this game SU.  BOL in regards to what you decide to do in this game.

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Did you do this all yourself? If you did, I must say, quite impressive! I am a Falcon alumn and can definitely see them winning or coming close to winning. Kind of scared now about the game and may stay away as I am involved in some way with this school- I hate to bet against/for teams I root for or went to school at.

Thanks...too many points here...I will take the 7 at home and I really think that the Falcons make this a close game...I see them winning this game SU.  BOL in regards to what you decide to do in this game.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by BuffBillieve:

P.S. Roger Williams is a damn good athlete for sure. I have no idea what this team could do tomorrow night. Could see them getting killed or pulling off a minor upset. The Doyt will sure be packed and LOUD.

Yes, about Roger Williams, and Yes about the Doyt being packed and loud as hell...coach clawson has brought some young excitement to the program

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P.S. Roger Williams is a damn good athlete for sure. I have no idea what this team could do tomorrow night. Could see them getting killed or pulling off a minor upset. The Doyt will sure be packed and LOUD.

Yes, about Roger Williams, and Yes about the Doyt being packed and loud as hell...coach clawson has brought some young excitement to the program

 
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you forgot the troy half of the write-up, but here's what i took away from what you wrote:
 
bg was 1-4 @ home last year.
bg has a brand new coach.
troy is defending sun belt conference champion.
bg has a good quarterback and and experienced offense.
 
result:  bg +7
 
??  doesn't add up to me.  don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like more of a bg homer than buffbillieve.
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you forgot the troy half of the write-up, but here's what i took away from what you wrote:
 
bg was 1-4 @ home last year.
bg has a brand new coach.
troy is defending sun belt conference champion.
bg has a good quarterback and and experienced offense.
 
result:  bg +7
 
??  doesn't add up to me.  don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like more of a bg homer than buffbillieve.
 
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interesting... where is the Troy write up? I think troy wins by 10 personally, but good luck
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interesting... where is the Troy write up? I think troy wins by 10 personally, but good luck
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Meateater]
you forgot the troy half of the write-up, but here's what i took away from what you wrote:
 
bg was 1-4 @ home last year.
bg has a brand new coach.
troy is defending sun belt conference champion.
bg has a good quarterback and and experienced offense.
 
result:  bg +7
 
??  doesn't add up to me.  don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like more of a bg homer than buffbillieve.

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Never been to a BG game except last year against the Gophers...not an alum, not a fan, I dont play favorites in college football at all...

 

you are right with the fact that I left out the troy half of the write-up, but that is because BG is my play.  I have researched the game a lot and I am not overlooking anything that Troy has here, I just dont like them to cover this spread at all...therefore I elected to provide my write-up by backing it up with my pick.  Troy is good, I said that in there, but I am not going to write about how good they are if I am not playing them. 

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[Quote: Originally Posted by Meateater]
you forgot the troy half of the write-up, but here's what i took away from what you wrote:
 
bg was 1-4 @ home last year.
bg has a brand new coach.
troy is defending sun belt conference champion.
bg has a good quarterback and and experienced offense.
 
result:  bg +7
 
??  doesn't add up to me.  don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like more of a bg homer than buffbillieve.

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Never been to a BG game except last year against the Gophers...not an alum, not a fan, I dont play favorites in college football at all...

 

you are right with the fact that I left out the troy half of the write-up, but that is because BG is my play.  I have researched the game a lot and I am not overlooking anything that Troy has here, I just dont like them to cover this spread at all...therefore I elected to provide my write-up by backing it up with my pick.  Troy is good, I said that in there, but I am not going to write about how good they are if I am not playing them. 

 
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excellent write up - may just buy the hook to 7.5 and jump on board with the falcons, could see Troy thinking of fla the following week a bit as well
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excellent write up - may just buy the hook to 7.5 and jump on board with the falcons, could see Troy thinking of fla the following week a bit as well
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

excellent write up - may just buy the hook to 7.5 and jump on board with the falcons, could see Troy thinking of fla the following week a bit as well

son of a bitch...I left that out...It's so hard to get it all in my write-up...especially since I had to copy and paste the whole thing because I had too many characters...thanks though, and you are right on...

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excellent write up - may just buy the hook to 7.5 and jump on board with the falcons, could see Troy thinking of fla the following week a bit as well

son of a bitch...I left that out...It's so hard to get it all in my write-up...especially since I had to copy and paste the whole thing because I had too many characters...thanks though, and you are right on...

 
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between the look-ahead to Florida and being a Thursday night road favorite, this isn't exactly a good spot for Troy...
 
they are the better team, and should cover... but in these situations what should happen and what does happen are usually two different things...
 
staying away from it...
 
 
if BG is losing at halftime but still playing competitively, i would advise a 2nd half play on BG...
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between the look-ahead to Florida and being a Thursday night road favorite, this isn't exactly a good spot for Troy...
 
they are the better team, and should cover... but in these situations what should happen and what does happen are usually two different things...
 
staying away from it...
 
 
if BG is losing at halftime but still playing competitively, i would advise a 2nd half play on BG...
 
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I'm not sold on the 'look ahead' to Florida theory, they'll get crushed and I'm sure most of the team thinks so. This game is big for Troy and they know it, I don't see them looking ahead to anything but a W.
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I'm not sold on the 'look ahead' to Florida theory, they'll get crushed and I'm sure most of the team thinks so. This game is big for Troy and they know it, I don't see them looking ahead to anything but a W.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MrHeadache:

Quote Originally Posted by Meateater:

you forgot the troy half of the write-up, but here's what i took away from what you wrote:
 
bg was 1-4 @ home last year.
bg has a brand new coach.
troy is defending sun belt conference champion.
bg has a good quarterback and and experienced offense.
 
result:  bg +7
 
??  doesn't add up to me.  don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like more of a bg homer than buffbillieve.

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Never been to a BG game except last year against the Gophers...not an alum, not a fan, I dont play favorites in college football at all...

 

you are right with the fact that I left out the troy half of the write-up, but that is because BG is my play.  I have researched the game a lot and I am not overlooking anything that Troy has here, I just dont like them to cover this spread at all...therefore I elected to provide my write-up by backing it up with my pick.  Troy is good, I said that in there, but I am not going to write about how good they are if I am not playing them. 

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Quote Originally Posted by MrHeadache:

Quote Originally Posted by Meateater:

you forgot the troy half of the write-up, but here's what i took away from what you wrote:
 
bg was 1-4 @ home last year.
bg has a brand new coach.
troy is defending sun belt conference champion.
bg has a good quarterback and and experienced offense.
 
result:  bg +7
 
??  doesn't add up to me.  don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like more of a bg homer than buffbillieve.

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Never been to a BG game except last year against the Gophers...not an alum, not a fan, I dont play favorites in college football at all...

 

you are right with the fact that I left out the troy half of the write-up, but that is because BG is my play.  I have researched the game a lot and I am not overlooking anything that Troy has here, I just dont like them to cover this spread at all...therefore I elected to provide my write-up by backing it up with my pick.  Troy is good, I said that in there, but I am not going to write about how good they are if I am not playing them. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

between the look-ahead to Florida and being a Thursday night road favorite, this isn't exactly a good spot for Troy...
 
they are the better team, and should cover... but in these situations what should happen and what does happen are usually two different things...
 
staying away from it...
 
 
if BG is losing at halftime but still playing competitively, i would advise a 2nd half play on BG...

Brought up some great points...I am not much of a halftime wagering guy, but BOL

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between the look-ahead to Florida and being a Thursday night road favorite, this isn't exactly a good spot for Troy...
 
they are the better team, and should cover... but in these situations what should happen and what does happen are usually two different things...
 
staying away from it...
 
 
if BG is losing at halftime but still playing competitively, i would advise a 2nd half play on BG...

Brought up some great points...I am not much of a halftime wagering guy, but BOL

 
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Quote Originally Posted by cherokee10:

I'm not sold on the 'look ahead' to Florida theory, they'll get crushed and I'm sure most of the team thinks so. This game is big for Troy and they know it, I don't see them looking ahead to anything but a W.

not saying its a theory or anything...just saying that Troy is looking forward to this game...its their big game on the schedule...how can you not be up for playing the National Champions???  They are college athletes, they are not going into thinking they are going to get killed by any means

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I'm not sold on the 'look ahead' to Florida theory, they'll get crushed and I'm sure most of the team thinks so. This game is big for Troy and they know it, I don't see them looking ahead to anything but a W.

not saying its a theory or anything...just saying that Troy is looking forward to this game...its their big game on the schedule...how can you not be up for playing the National Champions???  They are college athletes, they are not going into thinking they are going to get killed by any means

 
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Troy also isn't consistent nor good on the road. So who knows. Its a toss up in my opinion even though Troy seems more athletic and the bigger known school
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Troy also isn't consistent nor good on the road. So who knows. Its a toss up in my opinion even though Troy seems more athletic and the bigger known school
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

seriously though...I could have a write-up just like that all about Troy, but what purpose would it serve if I am betting on Bowling Green???  I am just providing what I see in my BG pick, that is all...its not like I havent taken the time to look at what Troy has to offer

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seriously though...I could have a write-up just like that all about Troy, but what purpose would it serve if I am betting on Bowling Green???  I am just providing what I see in my BG pick, that is all...its not like I havent taken the time to look at what Troy has to offer

 
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Quote Originally Posted by cherokee10:

I'm not sold on the 'look ahead' to Florida theory, they'll get crushed and I'm sure most of the team thinks so. This game is big for Troy and they know it, I don't see them looking ahead to anything but a W.

don't want to steer you off of Troy, Cherokee... but i'll tell you this... Troy has clearly shown that they do not think any team is an automatic loss for them... they love taking on Goliath... seriously... nobody could ever convince this team that playing Florida is a sure loss... even though we both know it is... they do not...

i respect that about Troy...

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I'm not sold on the 'look ahead' to Florida theory, they'll get crushed and I'm sure most of the team thinks so. This game is big for Troy and they know it, I don't see them looking ahead to anything but a W.

don't want to steer you off of Troy, Cherokee... but i'll tell you this... Troy has clearly shown that they do not think any team is an automatic loss for them... they love taking on Goliath... seriously... nobody could ever convince this team that playing Florida is a sure loss... even though we both know it is... they do not...

i respect that about Troy...

 
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just bet the over...we both no BGSU defense will be horrid...and troy has a good OFFENSE...if BG is goog enough to compete they will need AT LEAST 27 points...my personal prediction

TROY:  38
BG:      28


over easily...might be close by half...GL all.
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just bet the over...we both no BGSU defense will be horrid...and troy has a good OFFENSE...if BG is goog enough to compete they will need AT LEAST 27 points...my personal prediction

TROY:  38
BG:      28


over easily...might be close by half...GL all.
 
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Hard to consider losing to Ohio St., LSU, and OK St. on the road a just way of labeling a team as a terrible road team.  Granted they lost one other road game last year to La-Monroe 31-30...but again not sure that deems them as terrible.
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Hard to consider losing to Ohio St., LSU, and OK St. on the road a just way of labeling a team as a terrible road team.  Granted they lost one other road game last year to La-Monroe 31-30...but again not sure that deems them as terrible.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

don't want to steer you off of Troy, Cherokee...

Don't worry my friend, you're not. I'm already set on this game and have been for a while, Troy is more physical in every aspect of the game than BG. Yes, BG has their playmakers and it's a home opener which will get the crowd going early for them....but in the end Troy has the horses to cover this, maybe bigger than expected.

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don't want to steer you off of Troy, Cherokee...

Don't worry my friend, you're not. I'm already set on this game and have been for a while, Troy is more physical in every aspect of the game than BG. Yes, BG has their playmakers and it's a home opener which will get the crowd going early for them....but in the end Troy has the horses to cover this, maybe bigger than expected.

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jdnmoney:

just bet the over...we both no BGSU defense will be horrid...and troy has a good OFFENSE...if BG is goog enough to compete they will need AT LEAST 27 points...my personal prediction

TROY:  38
BG:      28


over easily...might be close by half...GL all.

I see where you are coming from, but its the first game of the year...a lot of things happen...offenses need to get a feel, timing with full speed, contact, etc.  All of these things need a little time, and as much as I agree with you, I just think I am going to stay away from the total in this game

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just bet the over...we both no BGSU defense will be horrid...and troy has a good OFFENSE...if BG is goog enough to compete they will need AT LEAST 27 points...my personal prediction

TROY:  38
BG:      28


over easily...might be close by half...GL all.

I see where you are coming from, but its the first game of the year...a lot of things happen...offenses need to get a feel, timing with full speed, contact, etc.  All of these things need a little time, and as much as I agree with you, I just think I am going to stay away from the total in this game

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