How did they choke in the World Series last year? They took a great ball club to the limit -- only losing because that team happened to have the biggest Ace in the league.
How did they choke in the World Series last year? They took a great ball club to the limit -- only losing because that team happened to have the biggest Ace in the league.
How did they choke in the World Series last year? They took a great ball club to the limit -- only losing because that team happened to have the biggest Ace in the league.
Madison Bumgarner single handed won Giants 3 games in that Series, he was the Ace in the long history of WS. Unbelievable!!
How did they choke in the World Series last year? They took a great ball club to the limit -- only losing because that team happened to have the biggest Ace in the league.
Madison Bumgarner single handed won Giants 3 games in that Series, he was the Ace in the long history of WS. Unbelievable!!
How did they choke in the World Series last year? They took a great ball club to the limit -- only losing because that team happened to have the biggest Ace in the league.
How did they choke in the World Series last year? They took a great ball club to the limit -- only losing because that team happened to have the biggest Ace in the league.
this should be an unreal series , i think kc matches up way better than the jays would have
Yeah. Even as a Jays fan I don't think Jays would have had much of a chance against the Mets. We saw how the Mets shut the Cubs bats. Cubs and Jays very similar to each other.
this should be an unreal series , i think kc matches up way better than the jays would have
Yeah. Even as a Jays fan I don't think Jays would have had much of a chance against the Mets. We saw how the Mets shut the Cubs bats. Cubs and Jays very similar to each other.
How did they choke in the World Series last year? They took a great ball club to the limit -- only losing because that team happened to have the biggest Ace in the league.
Spot on thats exactly what I was thinking. They ran into the hottest pitcher in the playoffs. Bum had a great WS
How did they choke in the World Series last year? They took a great ball club to the limit -- only losing because that team happened to have the biggest Ace in the league.
Spot on thats exactly what I was thinking. They ran into the hottest pitcher in the playoffs. Bum had a great WS
Spot on thats exactly what I was thinking. They ran into the hottest pitcher in the playoffs. Bum had a great WS
Have you seen Mets pitching in the playoffs? This is same situation except multiple pitchers are going to be shutting them down not just one as with Bumgarner alone last year.
Spot on thats exactly what I was thinking. They ran into the hottest pitcher in the playoffs. Bum had a great WS
Have you seen Mets pitching in the playoffs? This is same situation except multiple pitchers are going to be shutting them down not just one as with Bumgarner alone last year.
Hey double and cobra enlighten us before the games start as to how KC matches up better than Tor. Last I checked there was NO better fastball hitting team this year than Tor. just ask Herra Cueto and Madson how well they square up the heater.HA HA HA. Sorry could not resist when fans say stupid things.
Hey double and cobra enlighten us before the games start as to how KC matches up better than Tor. Last I checked there was NO better fastball hitting team this year than Tor. just ask Herra Cueto and Madson how well they square up the heater.HA HA HA. Sorry could not resist when fans say stupid things.
Have you seen Mets pitching in the playoffs? This is same situation except multiple pitchers are going to be shutting them down not just one as with Bumgarner alone last year.
The Mets have good young pitching, but none of them are on the level of Bumgarner last postseason.
Have you seen Mets pitching in the playoffs? This is same situation except multiple pitchers are going to be shutting them down not just one as with Bumgarner alone last year.
The Mets have good young pitching, but none of them are on the level of Bumgarner last postseason.
Hey double and cobra enlighten us before the games start as to how KC matches up better than Tor. Last I checked there was NO better fastball hitting team this year than Tor. just ask Herra Cueto and Madson how well they square up the heater.HA HA HA. Sorry could not resist when fans say stupid things.
Hey double and cobra enlighten us before the games start as to how KC matches up better than Tor. Last I checked there was NO better fastball hitting team this year than Tor. just ask Herra Cueto and Madson how well they square up the heater.HA HA HA. Sorry could not resist when fans say stupid things.
The Mets have good young pitching, but none of them are on the level of Bumgarner last postseason.
The Mets rotation has the highest velocity of ANY team in the history of the World series. A blanket statement like the one you just made is downright silly. This is even before we bring location and deception into the equation.
The Royals have some good pitching as well but they are ridiculously vulnerable in late innings. The Mets staff on the other hand showed why they are the best in the league as they held the Cubs (make no mistake they are the one of the best hitting teams in the league) to a NLCS low .164 average. That is best ever in an NLCS series by a long margin.
Yes the Royals may have the best closer in the league but Familia has been equally productive going 9.6 innings and allowing only 2 hits and no runs.
Ventura is Royals most reliable starter right now IMO and he msut be at his absolute best for KC to have a chance. Cueto twice and Volquez twice is not the answer to a WS championship.
The Mets have good young pitching, but none of them are on the level of Bumgarner last postseason.
The Mets rotation has the highest velocity of ANY team in the history of the World series. A blanket statement like the one you just made is downright silly. This is even before we bring location and deception into the equation.
The Royals have some good pitching as well but they are ridiculously vulnerable in late innings. The Mets staff on the other hand showed why they are the best in the league as they held the Cubs (make no mistake they are the one of the best hitting teams in the league) to a NLCS low .164 average. That is best ever in an NLCS series by a long margin.
Yes the Royals may have the best closer in the league but Familia has been equally productive going 9.6 innings and allowing only 2 hits and no runs.
Ventura is Royals most reliable starter right now IMO and he msut be at his absolute best for KC to have a chance. Cueto twice and Volquez twice is not the answer to a WS championship.
The Mets rotation has the highest velocity of ANY team in the history of the World series. A blanket statement like the one you just made is downright silly. This is even before we bring location and deception into the equation.
The Royals have some good pitching as well but they are ridiculously vulnerable in late innings. The Mets staff on the other hand showed why they are the best in the league as they held the Cubs (make no mistake they are the one of the best hitting teams in the league) to a NLCS low .164 average. That is best ever in an NLCS series by a long margin.
Yes the Royals may have the best closer in the league but Familia has been equally productive going 9.6 innings and allowing only 2 hits and no runs.
Ventura is Royals most reliable starter right now IMO and he msut be at his absolute best for KC to have a chance. Cueto twice and Volquez twice is not the answer to a WS championship.
GL on your Royals bet
(Sigh) Dude, I mean really. My blanket statement of the Mets staff not having someone on the same level of Mad Bum is downright silly? Okay. So the Mets will sweep with 4 straight shutouts. They have the highest velocity of any starting staff in the history of baseball. I'm trying to figure out how the Dodger series went 5 games. Or how any runs were scored at all. Just moronic.
Royals ridiculously vulnerable in late innings? The best bullpen in the history of the sport over a 2 year span is vulnerable in late innings now. I'll give you Madson being the weakest link, but just a massive overstatement. Familia has had a good 9 innings, and we're comparing him to the greatest reliever ever for a 2 year span. Familia blew games all throughout the year. He's going to blow a save in this WS.
Volquez has actually been the most consistent pitcher for the Royals. Cueto is a wildcard. Mets have the better starting staff, but in my opinion that's the only spot they have an advantage, albeit a good spot.
You like the Mets, and I like the Royals in 6. I have no bet on them. I'm just a lifelong fan, but I'm also a baseball handicapper, and am not blind with my fandom.
The Mets rotation has the highest velocity of ANY team in the history of the World series. A blanket statement like the one you just made is downright silly. This is even before we bring location and deception into the equation.
The Royals have some good pitching as well but they are ridiculously vulnerable in late innings. The Mets staff on the other hand showed why they are the best in the league as they held the Cubs (make no mistake they are the one of the best hitting teams in the league) to a NLCS low .164 average. That is best ever in an NLCS series by a long margin.
Yes the Royals may have the best closer in the league but Familia has been equally productive going 9.6 innings and allowing only 2 hits and no runs.
Ventura is Royals most reliable starter right now IMO and he msut be at his absolute best for KC to have a chance. Cueto twice and Volquez twice is not the answer to a WS championship.
GL on your Royals bet
(Sigh) Dude, I mean really. My blanket statement of the Mets staff not having someone on the same level of Mad Bum is downright silly? Okay. So the Mets will sweep with 4 straight shutouts. They have the highest velocity of any starting staff in the history of baseball. I'm trying to figure out how the Dodger series went 5 games. Or how any runs were scored at all. Just moronic.
Royals ridiculously vulnerable in late innings? The best bullpen in the history of the sport over a 2 year span is vulnerable in late innings now. I'll give you Madson being the weakest link, but just a massive overstatement. Familia has had a good 9 innings, and we're comparing him to the greatest reliever ever for a 2 year span. Familia blew games all throughout the year. He's going to blow a save in this WS.
Volquez has actually been the most consistent pitcher for the Royals. Cueto is a wildcard. Mets have the better starting staff, but in my opinion that's the only spot they have an advantage, albeit a good spot.
You like the Mets, and I like the Royals in 6. I have no bet on them. I'm just a lifelong fan, but I'm also a baseball handicapper, and am not blind with my fandom.
The Royals starting pitching is vulnerable in late innings numb nuts which is why I didnt say "closer". Ventura has a 5 ERA in october and Volquez has a 4.35. A lot of this damage came late which is why neither pitcher makes it past 5 inning very often. Since Ventura's horrible start in game 1 against Astros I like what I have seen out fo him compared to Volquez. Both had to face the Jays twice but Ventura was pretty good in both starts while Volquez was shelled in his 2nd outing (albeit on the road). The ERA doesnt dictate it but I prefer Ventura over Volquez at this point based on what I see out of them.
Why did the series with Mets/Dodgers go 5? Simple because Dodgers have two top 8 starting pitchers in all of baseball on their team that were able to go deep into the game. And they pitched in 4 out of those 5 games. The Royals #1 does not compare to either one of these guys. Not in this lifetime, not in any lifetime.
Degrom has been the best pitcher in the entire playoffs even over Kershaw, Greinke, Arrieta so even thou
Only ONE pitcher in the history of the league has had a better WS than madbum so its silly for you to say that to discount the point I was making regarding the eliteness of the NY pitching staff by saying "none of them are on the level of Bumgarner last season." Frankly, you are insulting my intelligence with such a 0.01% statistical anomaly that was Bumgarner was WS. Oh, and what does that say about the Royals lineup btw?
The Royals starting pitching is vulnerable in late innings numb nuts which is why I didnt say "closer". Ventura has a 5 ERA in october and Volquez has a 4.35. A lot of this damage came late which is why neither pitcher makes it past 5 inning very often. Since Ventura's horrible start in game 1 against Astros I like what I have seen out fo him compared to Volquez. Both had to face the Jays twice but Ventura was pretty good in both starts while Volquez was shelled in his 2nd outing (albeit on the road). The ERA doesnt dictate it but I prefer Ventura over Volquez at this point based on what I see out of them.
Why did the series with Mets/Dodgers go 5? Simple because Dodgers have two top 8 starting pitchers in all of baseball on their team that were able to go deep into the game. And they pitched in 4 out of those 5 games. The Royals #1 does not compare to either one of these guys. Not in this lifetime, not in any lifetime.
Degrom has been the best pitcher in the entire playoffs even over Kershaw, Greinke, Arrieta so even thou
Only ONE pitcher in the history of the league has had a better WS than madbum so its silly for you to say that to discount the point I was making regarding the eliteness of the NY pitching staff by saying "none of them are on the level of Bumgarner last season." Frankly, you are insulting my intelligence with such a 0.01% statistical anomaly that was Bumgarner was WS. Oh, and what does that say about the Royals lineup btw?
LOL @ Vandal... you will regret wasting your time on this conversation. Yes the Mets have GREAT pitching...we know that. But, they also lack experience. Plain and simple...the most important and obvious key factor. Madbum of 2014 is no comparing to bc he had the previous experience and the moment never phased him. He controlled every game those playoffs... I don't see these young guys of the Mets handling the mound in that fashion. Vulnerable? That was laughable...the only vulnerability is in Madson... nothing else. Herrera is beasty! The Royals bats come alive in late innings!! What have you been watching?!! That Cubs series was a mirage... young pitching beat young inexperienced bats. Cubs should have never been that far, Cards injuries plagued them until their exit. Royals handle business this time around...face it. This pitching topic is way overblown...but I like it that way...so when the Royals prevail, you'll respect them more in the end.
LOL @ Vandal... you will regret wasting your time on this conversation. Yes the Mets have GREAT pitching...we know that. But, they also lack experience. Plain and simple...the most important and obvious key factor. Madbum of 2014 is no comparing to bc he had the previous experience and the moment never phased him. He controlled every game those playoffs... I don't see these young guys of the Mets handling the mound in that fashion. Vulnerable? That was laughable...the only vulnerability is in Madson... nothing else. Herrera is beasty! The Royals bats come alive in late innings!! What have you been watching?!! That Cubs series was a mirage... young pitching beat young inexperienced bats. Cubs should have never been that far, Cards injuries plagued them until their exit. Royals handle business this time around...face it. This pitching topic is way overblown...but I like it that way...so when the Royals prevail, you'll respect them more in the end.
The Royals starting pitching is vulnerable in late innings numb nuts which is why I didnt say "closer". Ventura has a 5 ERA in october and Volquez has a 4.35. A lot of this damage came late which is why neither pitcher makes it past 5 inning very often. Since Ventura's horrible start in game 1 against Astros I like what I have seen out fo him compared to Volquez. Both had to face the Jays twice but Ventura was pretty good in both starts while Volquez was shelled in his 2nd outing (albeit on the road). The ERA doesnt dictate it but I prefer Ventura over Volquez at this point based on what I see out of them.
Why did the series with Mets/Dodgers go 5? Simple because Dodgers have two top 8 starting pitchers in all of baseball on their team that were able to go deep into the game. And they pitched in 4 out of those 5 games. The Royals #1 does not compare to either one of these guys. Not in this lifetime, not in any lifetime.
Degrom has been the best pitcher in the entire playoffs even over Kershaw, Greinke, Arrieta so even thou
Only ONE pitcher in the history of the league has had a better WS than madbum so its silly for you to say that to discount the point I was making regarding the eliteness of the NY pitching staff by saying "none of them are on the level of Bumgarner last season." Frankly, you are insulting my intelligence with such a 0.01% statistical anomaly that was Bumgarner was WS. Oh, and what does that say about the Royals lineup btw?
Royals starters very rarely go "late" in the game because of their amazing bullpen. So when you say "ridiculously vulnerable late", that is not an issue with the Royals. Maybe you should be more clear in what you're saying a ss hat.
The Royals #1 isn't as good as Kershaw, Greenie, or Arrieta. Guess you got me there.
You're the one that compared Mad Bum to the Mets staff, not me. The bottom line is the Royals have a .300+ batting average against pitchers that throw 95mlb+, which is exactly what the Mets have. By the way that .300+ batting average is #1 in baseball.
I'm picking the Royals in 6, but to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was in 5, or a sweep. We will see though.
The Royals starting pitching is vulnerable in late innings numb nuts which is why I didnt say "closer". Ventura has a 5 ERA in october and Volquez has a 4.35. A lot of this damage came late which is why neither pitcher makes it past 5 inning very often. Since Ventura's horrible start in game 1 against Astros I like what I have seen out fo him compared to Volquez. Both had to face the Jays twice but Ventura was pretty good in both starts while Volquez was shelled in his 2nd outing (albeit on the road). The ERA doesnt dictate it but I prefer Ventura over Volquez at this point based on what I see out of them.
Why did the series with Mets/Dodgers go 5? Simple because Dodgers have two top 8 starting pitchers in all of baseball on their team that were able to go deep into the game. And they pitched in 4 out of those 5 games. The Royals #1 does not compare to either one of these guys. Not in this lifetime, not in any lifetime.
Degrom has been the best pitcher in the entire playoffs even over Kershaw, Greinke, Arrieta so even thou
Only ONE pitcher in the history of the league has had a better WS than madbum so its silly for you to say that to discount the point I was making regarding the eliteness of the NY pitching staff by saying "none of them are on the level of Bumgarner last season." Frankly, you are insulting my intelligence with such a 0.01% statistical anomaly that was Bumgarner was WS. Oh, and what does that say about the Royals lineup btw?
Royals starters very rarely go "late" in the game because of their amazing bullpen. So when you say "ridiculously vulnerable late", that is not an issue with the Royals. Maybe you should be more clear in what you're saying a ss hat.
The Royals #1 isn't as good as Kershaw, Greenie, or Arrieta. Guess you got me there.
You're the one that compared Mad Bum to the Mets staff, not me. The bottom line is the Royals have a .300+ batting average against pitchers that throw 95mlb+, which is exactly what the Mets have. By the way that .300+ batting average is #1 in baseball.
I'm picking the Royals in 6, but to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was in 5, or a sweep. We will see though.
LOL @ Vandal... you will regret wasting your time on this conversation. Yes the Mets have GREAT pitching...we know that. But, they also lack experience. Plain and simple...the most important and obvious key factor. Madbum of 2014 is no comparing to bc he had the previous experience and the moment never phased him. He controlled every game those playoffs... I don't see these young guys of the Mets handling the mound in that fashion. Vulnerable? That was laughable...the only vulnerability is in Madson... nothing else. Herrera is beasty! The Royals bats come alive in late innings!! What have you been watching?!! That Cubs series was a mirage... young pitching beat young inexperienced bats. Cubs should have never been that far, Cards injuries plagued them until their exit. Royals handle business this time around...face it. This pitching topic is way overblown...but I like it that way...so when the Royals prevail, you'll respect them more in the end.
We're fighting the good fight. It will be sweet when they win.
LOL @ Vandal... you will regret wasting your time on this conversation. Yes the Mets have GREAT pitching...we know that. But, they also lack experience. Plain and simple...the most important and obvious key factor. Madbum of 2014 is no comparing to bc he had the previous experience and the moment never phased him. He controlled every game those playoffs... I don't see these young guys of the Mets handling the mound in that fashion. Vulnerable? That was laughable...the only vulnerability is in Madson... nothing else. Herrera is beasty! The Royals bats come alive in late innings!! What have you been watching?!! That Cubs series was a mirage... young pitching beat young inexperienced bats. Cubs should have never been that far, Cards injuries plagued them until their exit. Royals handle business this time around...face it. This pitching topic is way overblown...but I like it that way...so when the Royals prevail, you'll respect them more in the end.
We're fighting the good fight. It will be sweet when they win.
LOL @ Vandal... you will regret wasting your time on this conversation. Yes the Mets have GREAT pitching...we know that. But, they also lack experience. Plain and simple...the most important and obvious key factor. Madbum of 2014 is no comparing to bc he had the previous experience and the moment never phased him. He controlled every game those playoffs... I don't see these young guys of the Mets handling the mound in that fashion. Vulnerable? That was laughable...the only vulnerability is in Madson... nothing else. Herrera is beasty! The Royals bats come alive in late innings!! What have you been watching?!! That Cubs series was a mirage... young pitching beat young inexperienced bats. Cubs should have never been that far, Cards injuries plagued them until their exit. Royals handle business this time around...face it. This pitching topic is way overblown...but I like it that way...so when the Royals prevail, you'll respect them more in the end.
I even fukin underlined the word starting pitching and then you still went off on a tangent that the only vulnerability is Madson? Haha. This is one of the most underwhelming starting rotations in a world series that I can remember. Sure Royals play great defense and the offense is very good. Cannot dispute that. The Mets offense is doing just enough and the rotation is near unhittable when on, the same characteristics the Giants had on their run last year.
LOL @ Vandal... you will regret wasting your time on this conversation. Yes the Mets have GREAT pitching...we know that. But, they also lack experience. Plain and simple...the most important and obvious key factor. Madbum of 2014 is no comparing to bc he had the previous experience and the moment never phased him. He controlled every game those playoffs... I don't see these young guys of the Mets handling the mound in that fashion. Vulnerable? That was laughable...the only vulnerability is in Madson... nothing else. Herrera is beasty! The Royals bats come alive in late innings!! What have you been watching?!! That Cubs series was a mirage... young pitching beat young inexperienced bats. Cubs should have never been that far, Cards injuries plagued them until their exit. Royals handle business this time around...face it. This pitching topic is way overblown...but I like it that way...so when the Royals prevail, you'll respect them more in the end.
I even fukin underlined the word starting pitching and then you still went off on a tangent that the only vulnerability is Madson? Haha. This is one of the most underwhelming starting rotations in a world series that I can remember. Sure Royals play great defense and the offense is very good. Cannot dispute that. The Mets offense is doing just enough and the rotation is near unhittable when on, the same characteristics the Giants had on their run last year.
Royals starters very rarely go "late" in the game because of their amazing bullpen. So when you say "ridiculously vulnerable late", that is not an issue with the Royals. Maybe you should be more clear in what you're saying a ss hat.
The Royals #1 isn't as good as Kershaw, Greenie, or Arrieta. Guess you got me there.
You're the one that compared Mad Bum to the Mets staff, not me. The bottom line is the Royals have a .300+ batting average against pitchers that throw 95mlb+, which is exactly what the Mets have. By the way that .300+ batting average is #1 in baseball.
I'm picking the Royals in 6, but to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was in 5, or a sweep. We will see though.
A sweep you say eh? Just out of curiosity what kind of score predictions do you see for the first 4 games?
Should we chalk up Harvey and Degrom for 4 ER's each in the first two games for the easy wins ? I mean, what fukin planet do you actually reside in with this nonsense. The only way you sweep is if your starting rotation pitches 2.5 runs below their ERA in each and they somehow hold the Mets to two runs or less in every single game. GL with that against two top 5 pitchers in the NL
Royals starters very rarely go "late" in the game because of their amazing bullpen. So when you say "ridiculously vulnerable late", that is not an issue with the Royals. Maybe you should be more clear in what you're saying a ss hat.
The Royals #1 isn't as good as Kershaw, Greenie, or Arrieta. Guess you got me there.
You're the one that compared Mad Bum to the Mets staff, not me. The bottom line is the Royals have a .300+ batting average against pitchers that throw 95mlb+, which is exactly what the Mets have. By the way that .300+ batting average is #1 in baseball.
I'm picking the Royals in 6, but to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was in 5, or a sweep. We will see though.
A sweep you say eh? Just out of curiosity what kind of score predictions do you see for the first 4 games?
Should we chalk up Harvey and Degrom for 4 ER's each in the first two games for the easy wins ? I mean, what fukin planet do you actually reside in with this nonsense. The only way you sweep is if your starting rotation pitches 2.5 runs below their ERA in each and they somehow hold the Mets to two runs or less in every single game. GL with that against two top 5 pitchers in the NL
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