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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#126 Posted: 10/16/2012 10:48:42 AM I stand corrected.. my book is offering +165 on the Yankees which is 25 cents of value. Still a good look if you ask me. Verlander is a stud, but he's not good enough to lay this kind of chalk against the Yankees. Should be closer to a -150 spread on the favorite.
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Veteran Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1625 Location: Canada	#127 Posted: 10/16/2012 11:06:30 AM i bit couldn't pass up 0.60 units to win a full unit in the playoffs. here's hoping the yankees can live up to their season long metrics
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Prospect Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 107 Location: Georgia	#128 Posted: 10/16/2012 11:16:31 AM Silly, just sent you a friend request, I was wondering if you see any NFL games that may move significantly between now and Sunday. I have 2 4-team parlays that have hit 3 of 4 and have 1 open slot each that I can fill with any game and want to take the guaranteed money, but might as well see if I can look for a middle opportunity. If you have any ideas please message me or respond here..... Thanks
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#129 Posted: 10/16/2012 11:51:20 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by bperry23: Silly, just sent you a friend request, I was wondering if you see any NFL games that may move significantly between now and Sunday. I have 2 4-team parlays that have hit 3 of 4 and have 1 open slot each that I can fill with any game and want to take the guaranteed money, but might as well see if I can look for a middle opportunity. If you have any ideas please message me or respond here..... Thanks Busy at work this morning, but I'm going to try and find time to update my databases this afternoon and evening. The RPI calculations take a few hours to complete. I'll post breakdown sheets in the NFL forum and I'll let you know what looks good then. I try and hold my opinions until after I see the numbers - in fact, I haven't even looked at the lines for this week yet. I don't want to let any of my personal bias get in the way of the raw statistics.
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Veteran Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1799 Location: Pennsylvania	#130 Posted: 10/16/2012 11:54:46 AM I know all year Yankees hit righties well but don't you have to cautious with those #'s based on how terribly, guys like Cano, A-Rod, and Swisher have hit? Also with Jeter being out...
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5t4r5align	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 9255 Location: Virginia	#131 Posted: 10/16/2012 1:05:09 PM
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roondog248	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 894 Location: Florida	#132 Posted: 10/16/2012 2:09:20 PM I've won my last 5 MLB ML picks, were mostly road dogs thanks to STL and Det, but the way the yankees have been playing and the fact verlander is starting tonight makes me stay far away from the NY ML. Might take a look at O/U's TT's and RL's for this game.
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#133 Posted: 10/16/2012 2:51:37 PM Sounds good roondog.. hard to go against Verlander in October.
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roondog248	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 894 Location: Florida	#134 Posted: 10/16/2012 2:59:25 PM the sheet projection is 9.55 and my book has it at 7. Over 7 seems likely to happen one of two ways... Detroit scores over 7 runs... or Verlander bombs this game. what are your thoughts....
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#135 Posted: 10/16/2012 3:02:34 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by roondog248: the sheet projection is 9.55 and my book has it at 7. Over 7 seems likely to happen one of two ways... Detroit scores over 7 runs... or Verlander bombs this game. what are your thoughts.... If I make any play today it will be on the over.
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roondog248	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 894 Location: Florida	#136 Posted: 10/16/2012 3:07:48 PM and the more likely of those 2 would be detroit scores most of the runs to push total the over, or runs are scored after verlander leaves. any amount of runs could be scored in the 9th if Valverde is in there. relief pitchers aren't announced right? I've yet to see this anywhere.
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Rookie Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 747 Location: Alabama	#137 Posted: 10/16/2012 3:47:18 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by roondog248: and the more likely of those 2 would be detroit scores most of the runs to push total the over, or runs are scored after verlander leaves. any amount of runs could be scored in the 9th if Valverde is in there. relief pitchers aren't announced right? I've yet to see this anywhere. I playing the under 6.5. Derek Jeter is the only Yankee that has ever hit Verlander well. And with that said Verlander isnt just the regular ol' Verlander this year. He's on some kind of Alpha Omega level. If you think that Vogelsong's last 4 games have been impressive, then go back and look at Verlanders last two months!! With that being said. Detroit is averaging like 6 runs a game at on the home and on the road this post-season. I'm basing my pick on Verlander being "JV2012" and posting K's all the way around the outfield fence. Also the Yankees are very good defensively and I dont see them laying down. I truly believe this will be a pitchers duel and a defensive "small ball" type game. Parlay: DET ML & under 6.5 GO TIGERS & GO VERLANDER!!!
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roondog248	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 894 Location: Florida	#138 Posted: 10/16/2012 3:59:27 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by si1ly: If I make any play today it will be on the over. Other than the stats...(which the law of averages came through in last nights MNF) what makes you lean over? Verlander has only given up 3 runs inthe last 5 games as a SP.
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Banned Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1839 Location:	#139 Posted: 10/16/2012 4:12:30 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by BamaTaxMan: I playing the under 6.5. Derek Jeter is the only Yankee that has ever hit Verlander well. And with that said Verlander isnt just the regular ol' Verlander this year. He's on some kind of Alpha Omega level. If you think that Vogelsong's last 4 games have been impressive, then go back and look at Verlanders last two months!! With that being said. Detroit is averaging like 6 runs a game at on the home and on the road this post-season. I'm basing my pick on Verlander being "JV2012" and posting K's all the way around the outfield fence. Also the Yankees are very good defensively and I dont see them laying down. I truly believe this will be a pitchers duel and a defensive "small ball" type game. Parlay: DET ML & under 6.5 GO TIGERS & GO VERLANDER!!! Nice so if Yanks get to 3, you lose.
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#140 Posted: 10/16/2012 4:20:59 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by roondog248: Other than the stats...(which the law of averages came through in last nights MNF) what makes you lean over? Verlander has only given up 3 runs inthe last 5 games as a SP. Just stats.. no other reason. Yankees are down a few right handed hitters - but they're still stacked with lefties. Tigers bullpen has been garbage the last month. Both offenses are top 5 no matter how you slice it. I would have posted a total of 8 in this game with the under juiced at -120. At 7, it's just too low. Simple as that really.
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#141 Posted: 10/16/2012 4:21:53 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by JMAG: Nice so if Yanks get to 3, you lose. Correlated parlays are the worst bet in sports gambling.
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roondog248	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 894 Location: Florida	#142 Posted: 10/16/2012 4:39:39 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by si1ly: Just stats.. no other reason. Yankees are down a few right handed hitters - but they're still stacked with lefties. Tigers bullpen has been garbage the last month. Both offenses are top 5 no matter how you slice it. I would have posted a total of 8 in this game with the under juiced at -120. At 7, it's just too low. Simple as that really. Verlander pitches better against Lefties though. wind is blowing in towards home plate at 9mph.. I may place a small wager on tigers RL. This is a tough one to call.
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Captain Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 9255 Location: Virginia	#143 Posted: 10/16/2012 9:03:01 PM gonna be all over the Cards tomorrow i think.. just waiting on sheet to confirm or make be feel better at least. I'm guessing at worst your sheet will show fair value if not value on the Cards, but once factoring in that Cain is merely an avg pitcher away from SF.. im really liking this play. Lohse has great metrics at home, recently and in the high leverage and RISP categories. Might even be value in the RL
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#144 Posted: 10/16/2012 10:12:47 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by 5t4r5align: gonna be all over the Cards tomorrow i think.. just waiting on sheet to confirm or make be feel better at least. I'm guessing at worst your sheet will show fair value if not value on the Cards, but once factoring in that Cain is merely an avg pitcher away from SF.. im really liking this play. Lohse has great metrics at home, recently and in the high leverage and RISP categories. Might even be value in the RL I think you're right about the Cards. I'll run the sheet tonight for ya.
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#145 Posted: 10/16/2012 10:27:45 PM Sheet's up. No line value on the Cards.. but I think your analysis is accurate. I still lean that way with you. Definitely not a game to back the Giants - it's Cardinals or nothing.
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5t4r5align	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 9255 Location: Virginia	#146 Posted: 10/16/2012 10:43:02 PM thanks
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#147 Posted: 10/16/2012 11:15:50 PM By the way, Verlander is beast!
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Captain Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 9255 Location: Virginia	#148 Posted: 10/17/2012 12:32:34 AM busch not near as hitter friendly I thought (or was hoping) in fact, its favored the hurler this year. redbirds hit Cain hard last time he visited, albeit 7 Ks
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si1ly	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#149 Posted: 10/17/2012 12:49:19 PM Wednesday's games are up. Like Yankees and the over in St. Louis
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Rookie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 894 Location: Florida	#150 Posted: 10/17/2012 1:32:29 PM leans Under in Det Over in STL Cardinals
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