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#101
Posted: 8/14/2012 8:03:11 PM
Honestly, for all those who think a book just makes their $$ on juice is crazy.  We all know lines are set in the "hopes of even action" but come on now....
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:06:10 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

Alien1's comments are facts...Pasteur's comments are speculation...facts mean more than speculation...

Sorry if I didn't use enough big words!  



What do you think is fact?  That books try to invite equal action on both sides? 

Casinos, sports-books and the people who operate them are probably some of the greediest people you'll ever encounter.  The very goal of their business is one thing:  Make money, and a lot of it.  Do you think they've been content to just rake the juice and make no effort to increase profits for all this time? 

I think you grossly underestimate them. 

I get it if digging this deep isn't your cup of tea though.  To each their own, best of luck to you.
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:08:40 PM

So you are quoting someone who has a losing record in baseball this year...losing record for the last 6 months...

Also Colorado totals are always higher and 3 runs is no big deal...higher elevation...there is always more high scoring games there ever since they stated playing there...so the whole pointof that paragraph is based on false info...

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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:10:44 PM
My last message is for 1forall...aka MK...
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:25:15 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

So you are quoting someone who has a losing record in baseball this year...losing record for the last 6 months...

Also Colorado totals are always higher and 3 runs is no big deal...higher elevation...there is always more high scoring games there ever since they stated playing there...so the whole pointof that paragraph is based on false info...

Don't pay attention to what I say because I'm a LIAR


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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:32:25 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

My last message is for 1forall...aka MK...
you're absolutely right. Every single person on this thread is actually MK, and he has a losing record in baseball this season, and you're a good capper
Give it a rest pitch black - peopel aren't stupid. You were all over that guy's person before and then suddenly decided to make yourself a publicity through him and now you're lying about his record which is well documented and posted for everyone to see? You are pathetic liar. Bravo meraby
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:35:34 PM

MK's record last 6 months...

(517-487)(-0.16 Units)...right from his sites records...

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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:39:52 PM
You the one who involved MK here pitch black 2011. BTW, MK's record in MLB stands at +52.45 units. Why did not you quote that as well.
I ask you nicely - please leave my thread and don't comeback. This thread is about something more important than your insecurities. 
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:43:31 PM
I have only been a member of his site for 6 months...so I can verify that his negative unit showing is true before that who knows anyone can get a website and make up a winning record...notice his plays are not monitered by anyone...
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:52:06 PM
you are desperate pitch black for some attention! MK was not born out of blue but retired from here and got that site and people who followed him here continued over there. Get the darn out of my thread. You're getting annoying. I want this thread to pursue it's real call and not your BS
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:58:11 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Pasteur:

If you ask me, the total in the Boston/Baltimore game of 8.5 looks shady to me.  Beckett has been a gas can lately and the Red Sox can put up runs, especially against lefties.  So a total of 8.5?  The public is hammering the over with over 90% of the action on it, and the line is holding steady at 8.5.  So is it a vegas gift or a vegas trap?  I'm wrong plenty but I say trap.  I think Beckett's back is feeling better and both pitchers are looking to bounce back from sub-par outings last game.

This is an example of what I'm talking about.


I couldn't AGREE more with this!  

In my experience, momentum cappers & regression cappers can make money.  The problem the momentum player faces is when they find something that's "Too good to be true."  Team A's on a huge winning streak, and just won by 7 runs 2 straight games, and they're now coming home where they have an outstanding home record.  Momentum players - cross this game off of your board.  It's that simple.  Find another team who's about to start a nice streak. 

The problem regression players face is "making too many plays."  Not everything is regression.  When a 60% team wins 4 in a row and their last one by 5 runs.  THIS IS NOT REGRESSION.   What the regression player should look for is a 50% team that just won by 8 runs back to back and is now heading out of town where they have an enormous road record that cannot sustain itself. 

So then why do most gamblers lose?  For the same reason why I suck at poker!  I play too many hands! 

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Posted: 8/14/2012 10:20:19 PM
And the under in Baltimore hits.  Barely, but a win is a win 
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Posted: 8/15/2012 1:32:49 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Pasteur:

And the under in Baltimore hits.  Barely, but a win is a win 

Great!  I went 3-0 today (see my thread) with +7.62 Units!
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Posted: 8/15/2012 1:43:44 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

I have only been a member of his site for 6 months...so I can verify that his negative unit showing is true before that who knows anyone can get a website and make up a winning record...notice his plays are not monitered by anyone...

BTW, since you stirred this thread into MK and also doubted him (you know he's great, but you tried to doubt him) - he went 5-0 sweep today in MLB after 5-2 Yesterday. And congrats 14 for your sweep as well today!
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Posted: 8/15/2012 2:20:18 AM
The SF/Was totals the last two nights were traps 
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Posted: 8/15/2012 2:27:05 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 2169:

The SF/Was totals the last two nights were traps 


Not so sure about tonight.  I think they put a fair total out there, and the over was lucky as hell it hit. 

I do think the total in LA was what I call a fake trap, or a gift back to the public.  It sat at 8 all day and looked like such an easy over.  And it was.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 8:04:13 AM
OK ladies and gents, here are todays games which drew a special interest from sharps and let us see why? And right after that lets examine today's card for Traps: 

Games that sharps attacked early were:

PHI@MIA Totals
DET@MIN Totals
LAD@PIT Totals
BOS@BAL ML
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Posted: 8/15/2012 8:26:55 AM
PHI@MIA    The game being an early one has drawn much attention and the early action on Under has caused the line to come down from an original 7.5 to 7.
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An early game in Miami caught a lot of attention and bettors money totals wise and side wise as well. Halladay vs Buehrle does not seem like a riddle to most. So, after separating the action between the totals and the sides, I can see that money in large portions - as I call it  - Big Money has been on Miami and Under. Miami coming big from Asian market and Under big from an early action (what is referred as sharp action).  Please pay attention to one interesting fact: Under was pounded in a very condensed way like someone was trying to bring the line down which very well result in late action on Over to gain the margin.

My lean here as early as now is: MIA ML, Over 7

So, I would say there is entrappment there making everyone to go on a clear away favorite with the line a bit tempting. I am not getting tempted.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 9:35:10 AM

The game in Minnesota is a challenging one as DeVries is coming off an awful 1 1/2 innings performance in his last outing and it is hard to expect the repetition of that otherwise the managerial staff would skip him. That for me already is a half of an Under play.  I'm not sure side wise here since the odds on Sherzer to win seem in the area of normalcy considering it is an away team odds.

I will lean here MIN RL and Under 9.5

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Posted: 8/15/2012 9:57:51 AM
Possible Trap I see on totals in Baltimore (Following yesterday's  id of Pasteur of a trap on Over) where the line is 9.5 and should be a run lower. After Yeaserday - and with Boston's away U/O stats - I would say the game is gonna Over and we are to be convinced it goes Under.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 10:19:50 AM
I don't see anything really "off" looking about any of the early games.  Lines and totals seem right to me.  Some people might think Halladay at -130ish is cheap but this is an average Phillies team playing on the road.  Miami surely has a shot to win it.  Probably a no play for me.

The other line people seem to cry foul about is how cheap Strasburg is at -120, but he'll likely be gone by the 6th inning and then you have a pretty bad bullpen come in to mop up, and that's where it can go wrong for the Nats.  The line is fine.

Totals seem fine to me too.  I think the only early play I'll be on is the under in Seattle.  There's nothing shady about a total of 6.5, it's just a straight play on two teams that are trending under.

Haven't looked at the later games yet.  Busy at work
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Posted: 8/15/2012 1:09:39 PM
I agree that SFG is the play if any
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Posted: 8/15/2012 1:38:26 PM
I like how it all develops in both early games games. The man you're quoting is very sharp.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 3:09:39 PM
He was spot on with the MIA ML and over 7, and I took both. 
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Posted: 8/15/2012 3:14:28 PM
Hey 14allall41 may I ask, where do u get your information from? Thanks 
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